Air compressor for waxoyl?

[slybunda]

Looking to inject waxoyl into the sills and box sections and may need a compressor.
Need something small since I don't have much space to store it.
Would a 6L 5cfm one be enough? Don't need it to spray under the car, just inject into box sections.

[eth2190]

I have found Bilt Hamber S50 is generally more effective, and is more convenient to spray being an aerosol with an extended nozzle for cavities.

https://bilthamber.com/product/dynax-s50/

[Smint]

If thats the only reason you need a compressor, it might be worth checking out Bilt Hambers cavity wax aerosols instead, they come with long probes with just about the best diffuser i've used, never had a single blockage using them.
Made short work of all the cavities doors and inside the ladder chassis on my Prado, much cleaner to use too.

edit, beaten to it, agreed.

[slybunda]

AHH ok, reason I ask is that I already have 10L of waxoyl lying around so thought I'd use it

[slybunda]

My kid also wants to start painting small tamiya car models so was wondering if these small compressors would be enough

[rambo19]

I have a 50 litre compressor, use it for cavity wax with no problems, and spraying old land rovers.
Once you have one, you will find loads of uses for it!

[Novexx]

5CFM is more than enough.

[Belle427]

I dont think thats enough personally, my 24 L screwfix job which i think is close to 6 cfm wont run a proper wax gun correctly. I would check the specs on your intended equipment.

[slybunda]

What happens with your 5cfm compressor? Is it not good for even short bursts?

[Belle427]

slybunda said:

What happens with your 5cfm compressor? Is it not good for even short bursts?

No its a waste of time.

[slybunda]

Ok will avoid a compressor then.
Those pump up sprayers any good? The waxoyl brand seems to have one in a kit for around 45 quid. Seems expensive for a bottle with a pump on it but does it do the job properly?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waxoyl-6141711-High-Press...

[Smint]

slybunda said:

Ok will avoid a compressor then.
Those pump up sprayers any good? The waxoyl brand seems to have one in a kit for around 45 quid. Seems expensive for a bottle with a pump on it but does it do the job properly?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waxoyl-6141711-High-Press...

I had one, do the job when wifey is away because you'll need to heat the product to very hot on her hob in a large saucepan of water, the results of which which not endear you to your beloved.

During use you will find the nozzle and tube block often, unless you are doing the job in 80+' temps.
I found it was best to chuck the first batch over your head before you start because you'll be covered in the muck and in the foulest of moods by the time you've got through 1/4 of the can by which time its cooled so start again, and find some paraffin to run through the tube because thats now blocked solid.
It helps to dilute the stuff in white spirit before you start, and heating the product is probably safest if you have an induction hob.

Which is where we come back to the start and why Bilt Hambers cavity wax aerosols and nozzles are so popular with those who once used waxoyl, they look expensive but once you use them and find how little is wasted and easy the job was compared to the above faff...

[slybunda]

Will have a go at heating it up. I won't do it this winter but will do it in summer.
Iv got those 2.5L waxoyl pressure cans and iv picked up the pump today that directly attached to the top of the can. But it doesn't come with a probe to stick into cavities

[paintman]

A cautionary tale. IIRC originated on one of the Land Rover forums.
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36453


Keep the waxoil for spraying/brushing onto surfaces.

Use the Bilt Hamber S50 for inside the sills - it gets everywhere & flows beautifully.
Used it for the first time when I did inside the sills on my Classic Range Rover & knocks the waxoil which I've used in its various formats for years into a cocked hat.

[slybunda]

The Bilt Hamber S50 does that need a compressor? Also what sort of cost and quantity is needed to do a MK3 fiesta?

[Smint]

slybunda said:

The Bilt Hamber S50 does that need a compressor? Also what sort of cost and quantity is needed to do a MK3 fiesta?

750ml aerosols are £17 each direct from Bilt Hamber, there's probably a postage charge i haven't bought any for some years now, still have 1 left.

1 aerosol would do the sills alone and probably some more cavities, 3 would be enough for inside the doors bootlid front inner wings scuttle rear quarter panels and behind bumper braces if they are hollow etc, remember S50 isn't designed to withstand heavy weather battering its meant for cavities which get wet but not battered directly by the elements so no point in spraying it around rear wheelarches unless they are protected by plastic inner wing panels.
BH make other products for heavy weather sections.

When i first rustproofed my Prado, including fully coating the inside of the ladder chassis and every cavity door bonnet inner wings you name it, treated existing chassis rust with hydrate etc then coated heavily the whole underside in the thicker wax BH sell, it cost me around £200 in products, commercial sites charge around £500+ doing not such a thorough job as i did, i aid £400 back in '07 to have a new Hilux professionally treated which to be fair didn't impress me that much, i do a better job myself.
Prado is 19 years old now and solid as a rock.

Self propelling aerosols, just remove as much trim and rubber bungs as is practicle thengive the can a good shake stick the probe in as far as it will go press the button anddraw the probe slowly towards you, hear and see the product misting as it passes by any openings, its really quite satisfying.
Try and use the whole can, keep using the same probe till you've finished spraying, that way you'll have a fresh probe for later one either top up or when you remember the bits you forgot when you did the main job.
Remember to give the whole undersides a good washing and a few days to dry thoroughly before treatment, no point in sealing in any road salt mixture.

One big advantage, BH's product will smell for a day or two only unlike other stuff which can stink for weeks.

One other thing, put down an old large carpet (thats the ideal as its good to lie on as you work) or large sheets of cardboard and drive the car onto the ramp or whatever you are using to raise it on said driveway covering, there will inevitably be drips from using the product as it finds it way through drain channels.

[Kev_Mk3]

Smint said:

slybunda said:

The Bilt Hamber S50 does that need a compressor? Also what sort of cost and quantity is needed to do a MK3 fiesta?

750ml aerosols are £17 each direct from Bilt Hamber, there's probably a postage charge i haven't bought any for some years now, still have 1 left.

1 aerosol would do the sills alone and probably some more cavities, 3 would be enough for inside the doors bootlid front inner wings scuttle rear quarter panels and behind bumper braces if they are hollow etc, remember S50 isn't designed to withstand heavy weather battering its meant for cavities which get wet but not battered directly by the elements so no point in spraying it around rear wheelarches unless they are protected by plastic inner wing panels.
BH make other products for heavy weather sections.

When i first rustproofed my Prado, including fully coating the inside of the ladder chassis and every cavity door bonnet inner wings you name it, treated existing chassis rust with hydrate etc then coated heavily the whole underside in the thicker wax BH sell, it cost me around £200 in products, commercial sites charge around £500+ doing not such a thorough job as i did, i aid £400 back in '07 to have a new Hilux professionally treated which to be fair didn't impress me that much, i do a better job myself.
Prado is 19 years old now and solid as a rock.

Self propelling aerosols, just remove as much trim and rubber bungs as is practicle thengive the can a good shake stick the probe in as far as it will go press the button anddraw the probe slowly towards you, hear and see the product misting as it passes by any openings, its really quite satisfying.
Try and use the whole can, keep using the same probe till you've finished spraying, that way you'll have a fresh probe for later one either top up or when you remember the bits you forgot when you did the main job.
Remember to give the whole undersides a good washing and a few days to dry thoroughly before treatment, no point in sealing in any road salt mixture.

One big advantage, BH's product will smell for a day or two only unlike other stuff which can stink for weeks.

One other thing, put down an old large carpet (thats the ideal as its good to lie on as you work) or large sheets of cardboard and drive the car onto the ramp or whatever you are using to raise it on said driveway covering, there will inevitably be drips from using the product as it finds it way through drain channels.

This completely. I put carboard under the car and left it a week was a few drips but otherwise all ok.

[slybunda]

found this review
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sqnhKI_i9rPFdGcWL...

looks like waxoyl is still top and better than many others.

[Kev_Mk3]

slybunda said:

found this review
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sqnhKI_i9rPFdGcWL...

looks like waxoyl is still top and better than many others.

That was 2013 though.................. 11/12 years ago and tech changes a lot.

[slybunda]

Yep tech moves on but with some stuff if it works they don't change it, unless they cheapen out on it