Puma Gen-E available to spec and buy
Discussion
https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/puma-gen-e#intro
Looks alright I guess?
Looks alright I guess?
Edited by dino_jr on Tuesday 3rd December 10:31
Oh I like it!! I didn't know this was even a thing until now. I can imagine it selling very well if the 'monthlies' are right, but at £30k seem a good price IMO, especially in today's world, I was shocked it wasn't £35-40k to be honest. Battery range isn't the best but its adequate for what I expect most people will need and will keep weight down.
Its great to see some actual 'colours' too, the yellow and the blue especially.
I'm a huge Ford fan but I was losing faith in recent times, however I'm very pleased to see this.
Its great to see some actual 'colours' too, the yellow and the blue especially.
I'm a huge Ford fan but I was losing faith in recent times, however I'm very pleased to see this.
Ste-EVo said:
Oh I like it!! I didn't know this was even a thing until now. I can imagine it selling very well if the 'monthlies' are right, but at £30k seem a good price IMO, especially in today's world, I was shocked it wasn't £35-40k to be honest. Battery range isn't the best but its adequate for what I expect most people will need and will keep weight down.
Its great to see some actual 'colours' too, the yellow and the blue especially.
I'm a huge Ford fan but I was losing faith in recent times, however I'm very pleased to see this.
I'm not sold on the range. They said 233 miles in eco mode, with a 43kWh battery pack. To reach that, you'd need to achieve 5.4mi/kWh which would make this car extremely efficient compared to anything on the road I can think of. The real world is probably nearer 150-175 miles, which for most people I think would be a turn off. 150 mile range EV feels very mid-00s. Its great to see some actual 'colours' too, the yellow and the blue especially.
I'm a huge Ford fan but I was losing faith in recent times, however I'm very pleased to see this.
When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
Snappy89 said:
I'm not sold on the range. They said 233 miles in eco mode, with a 43kWh battery pack. To reach that, you'd need to achieve 5.4mi/kWh which would make this car extremely efficient compared to anything on the road I can think of. The real world is probably nearer 150-175 miles, which for most people I think would be a turn off. 150 mile range EV feels very mid-00s.
When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
Yea, I get what you are saying about the range, was thinking 'real world' along the same kind of lines as you with 180 tops, I didn't do the maths but I do also feel it would be very hard pushed to achieve 5.4m/kwh. When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
The average mileage people do is about 20 miles per day, given that you'd only need to charge once per week, even twice per week is not big deal with access to home charging. I'd prefer a bigger range yes, but I don't think it would put me off too much if it ticked a lot of other boxes and the monthly payment was attractive.
Previous new Fords I have bought have always offered 0% on PCP, not sure if they still do that though as it was 10 years ago since.
Snappy89 said:
I'm not sold on the range. They said 233 miles in eco mode, with a 43kWh battery pack. To reach that, you'd need to achieve 5.4mi/kWh which would make this car extremely efficient compared to anything on the road I can think of. The real world is probably nearer 150-175 miles, which for most people I think would be a turn off. 150 mile range EV feels very mid-00s.
Yes I'm not sure how they've got a 233 mile range on a car that shape on the WLTP test but I'd be astonished if people generally achieve more than 150 miles in real-world mixed driving and I suspect in poor conditions at motorway speeds it'll be more like 120-130. However, it's a Ford Puma; I suspect the huge majority will rarely if ever leave suburbia, so I don't think it really needs a bigger battery. Love it. The car to save ford perhaps? Would be perfect for my wife really, we bought her second petrol puma earlier this year which only really gets used for the school run and her short commute to work etc and the odd time we go somewhere further afield when I can’t be arsed finding charging points.
In fact I’d probably be happy with that myself.
Interesting to see if it’s really as efficient as they make out. That’s better mileage than my short range MG4 with a bigger battery.
In fact I’d probably be happy with that myself.
Interesting to see if it’s really as efficient as they make out. That’s better mileage than my short range MG4 with a bigger battery.
dino_jr said:
For the same performance and spec, the configurator suggests this is cheaper than the ICE equivalent… First time ever?
Have huge standard specs on EVs in order to allow the manufacturer to claim price equivalence with ICE is nothing new. All it really shows is that the options on the ICE versions are stupidly over-priced. 
mac96 said:
Really glad to see this, as Ford were seeming so directionless and need some relatively affordable models.
And it's got a quartic steering wheel, as BL used to call them!
The quartic steering wheel might 'look' good but it isn't as good to use in practice. We've just taken delivery of a facelift 155 ST Line X, and apart from the fact that the steering is way too light at low speed, the steering wheel doesn't slip through your hand evenly like a round one does when you're straitening up after pulling out of a turn.And it's got a quartic steering wheel, as BL used to call them!
Apart from that the car is great. It's comfy, has great handling, good ride on the 18s, enough performance, and the SYNC 4 infotainment is a delight to use.
The speed limit bongs are easily turned off too by holding the 'LIM' button down on the steering wheel for about 3 secs.
I'm guessing the electric version will be as good but with less range obvs.
Didn’t realise this was on their website. I’ve said for a while this will be a vital car for Ford. It’ll be their Renault 5 equivalent in terms of sales performance to help achieve the ZEV mandate.
If it can hit 150 miles real world typical worse case then I think that’ll be ok. Right on the edge of what people are likely to be ok with for a local runabout, but probably enough for a good chunk of usage.
If it can hit 150 miles real world typical worse case then I think that’ll be ok. Right on the edge of what people are likely to be ok with for a local runabout, but probably enough for a good chunk of usage.
Cobnapint said:
mac96 said:
Really glad to see this, as Ford were seeming so directionless and need some relatively affordable models.
And it's got a quartic steering wheel, as BL used to call them!
The quartic steering wheel might 'look' good but it isn't as good to use in practice. We've just taken delivery of a facelift 155 ST Line X, and apart from the fact that the steering is way too light at low speed, the steering wheel doesn't slip through your hand evenly like a round one does when you're straitening up after pulling out of a turn.And it's got a quartic steering wheel, as BL used to call them!
Apart from that the car is great. It's comfy, has great handling, good ride on the 18s, enough performance, and the SYNC 4 infotainment is a delight to use.
The speed limit bongs are easily turned off too by holding the 'LIM' button down on the steering wheel for about 3 secs.
I'm guessing the electric version will be as good but with less range obvs.
Ste-EVo said:
Snappy89 said:
I'm not sold on the range. They said 233 miles in eco mode, with a 43kWh battery pack. To reach that, you'd need to achieve 5.4mi/kWh which would make this car extremely efficient compared to anything on the road I can think of. The real world is probably nearer 150-175 miles, which for most people I think would be a turn off. 150 mile range EV feels very mid-00s.
When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
Yea, I get what you are saying about the range, was thinking 'real world' along the same kind of lines as you with 180 tops, I didn't do the maths but I do also feel it would be very hard pushed to achieve 5.4m/kwh. When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
The average mileage people do is about 20 miles per day, given that you'd only need to charge once per week, even twice per week is not big deal with access to home charging. I'd prefer a bigger range yes, but I don't think it would put me off too much if it ticked a lot of other boxes and the monthly payment was attractive.
Previous new Fords I have bought have always offered 0% on PCP, not sure if they still do that though as it was 10 years ago since.
Standard spec is a bit crap - no heated seats, no heated windscreen, no keyless entry. Just weird - Ford have cranked the price of all the other versions to make this look cheaper.
In reality, it's still too expensive (to the tune of about 4K - however if they can get the PCP under £250/month they'll sell well.
To put this in perspective, it's about 3 grand more expensive than the old ST was (on release), with 75% of the power, a smaller range (despite the thimble size fuel tank) and fewer toys.
Matthen said:
Ste-EVo said:
Snappy89 said:
I'm not sold on the range. They said 233 miles in eco mode, with a 43kWh battery pack. To reach that, you'd need to achieve 5.4mi/kWh which would make this car extremely efficient compared to anything on the road I can think of. The real world is probably nearer 150-175 miles, which for most people I think would be a turn off. 150 mile range EV feels very mid-00s.
When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
Yea, I get what you are saying about the range, was thinking 'real world' along the same kind of lines as you with 180 tops, I didn't do the maths but I do also feel it would be very hard pushed to achieve 5.4m/kwh. When I think of say Hyundai with their 49kWh pack in the Inster, I feel like Ford could have done a lot more. I get they want to keep the cost down, but for that I think even £30K is too high.
The average mileage people do is about 20 miles per day, given that you'd only need to charge once per week, even twice per week is not big deal with access to home charging. I'd prefer a bigger range yes, but I don't think it would put me off too much if it ticked a lot of other boxes and the monthly payment was attractive.
Previous new Fords I have bought have always offered 0% on PCP, not sure if they still do that though as it was 10 years ago since.
Standard spec is a bit crap - no heated seats, no heated windscreen, no keyless entry. Just weird - Ford have cranked the price of all the other versions to make this look cheaper.
In reality, it's still too expensive (to the tune of about 4K - however if they can get the PCP under £250/month they'll sell well.
To put this in perspective, it's about 3 grand more expensive than the old ST was (on release), with 75% of the power, a smaller range (despite the thimble size fuel tank) and fewer toys.
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