I'm really wanting to do a track day but scared of crashing

I'm really wanting to do a track day but scared of crashing

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JackAttack2002

Original Poster:

21 posts

30 months

I recently brought this mx5 and I've really been wanting to do a track evening.

I've been looking at track insurance but people said it's not worth it. And my main worry is crashing and not being able to afford another mx5. It was about 4 grand not expensive but not cheap.

I'm not going to go round really fast and push my car I'm just going to go round spiritly as I'm not looking to push my car.
However it's a sports car and needs to be driven like one.

I have taken my old 1999 k11 Micra auto soloing but never done a track day unless 4 laps of a driving experience counts

My mx5


roddo

574 posts

203 months

Get yourself on a MOT track day https://mottrackdays.com/
Likeminded people with similar cars and very well organised days

Jack91F

63 posts

119 months

I had the same feelings about ruining my own car.
In the end I rented an mx5 off someone on an owners page.
He bought it to the track, prepared it etc, he was in the passenger seat at all times. Cost £300 inc the track day fee.
You could do that first and see how confident you are afterwards?

In my limited experience I’d say people stick to the rules so accidents are unlikely.

John D.

18,519 posts

217 months

roddo said:
Get yourself on a MOT track day https://mottrackdays.com/
Likeminded people with similar cars and very well organised days
What's special about them? Sounds like it's something to do with the MOT test. Appears not from the website (although it doesn't give much away).

John D.

18,519 posts

217 months

In answer to the OP, book a day at Bedford. There's loads of run off, you'd have to be really trying to hit something.

Terminator X

16,397 posts

212 months

John D. said:
In answer to the OP, book a day at Bedford. There's loads of run off, you'd have to be really trying to hit something.
Same. I've been there loads of times and the people attending all seem to be sensible too eg no nutters overtaking in the corners.

TX.

Nickp82

3,419 posts

101 months

You need to be able to accept that you MAY crash. If this is not something you can accept then don’t do it.

However, crashing is pretty unlikely, crashing heavily very unlikely.

On the whole, track days are relaxed events where drivers are free to drive at the pace that suits them and tracks like Snetterton, Thruxton and Bedford have plenty of space for this to happen.

leef44

4,777 posts

161 months

Terminator X said:
John D. said:
In answer to the OP, book a day at Bedford. There's loads of run off, you'd have to be really trying to hit something.
Same. I've been there loads of times and the people attending all seem to be sensible too eg no nutters overtaking in the corners.

TX.
Yes this is the best solution I've found in my novice days. I too was nervous about crashing. If you can book on one of the days when they have the full track (4.2 miles I think?) then the cars can get very spread out. This means there is more option to find space where you are not in others way.

I've spun off plenty of times on that track but the run off areas are immense. So don't push it until you have some space and run off area. Often it is my over exuberance on cold tyres at the start of the session.

The more experienced drivers seem to wait out the first half hour until novice like me come back to the pits.

Once you get a bit familiar with the track and your car on the track it is worth getting a driving tuition session. It's worth the cost because this allows you to get more out of the day.

Disclaimer: it's been over a decade since the last time I did a track day so I don't know what Bedford is like now.

Krikkit

27,014 posts

189 months

OP look at the MSV novice days - a much more controlled environment. Spend an hour going as you feel, then book an instructor to come out with you. The most important thing is to build it up slowly and not over-do it. The people who crash early on are the ones who push too hard for their levels.

Nickp82 said:
On the whole, track days are relaxed events where drivers are free to drive at the pace that suits them and tracks like Snetterton, Thruxton and Bedford have plenty of space for this to happen.
As a novice in a slow car (in a straight line) I wouldn't recommend Snetterton and Thruxton - lots of long corners being hassled by very fast machinery, attracted by the fast track speeds.


E-bmw

9,993 posts

160 months

Yesterday (07:43)
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John D. said:
roddo said:
Get yourself on a MOT track day https://mottrackdays.com/
Likeminded people with similar cars and very well organised days
What's special about them? Sounds like it's something to do with the MOT test. Appears not from the website (although it doesn't give much away).
Mazda
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Generally like minded people as he said.

Steve H

5,808 posts

203 months

Yesterday (08:18)
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1. Book tuition.

2. Don’t book Bedford. If the best thing you can say about a track is it’s hard to crash, it’s a poor recommendation (feel free to look up my previous posts on this tor more detail laugh).

3. Not a novice day. Who ever thought it would be a good idea to let all the inexperienced drivers out on track at the same time? paperbag

4. MoT or other clubbie days are a good option. Less likelihood of teams testing, generally more inclusive atmosphere will be a nice way to start. BMW Car Club run similar days and are happy to see other makes of car.

5. Don’t drive like a plank and the odds of crashing fall significantly, get out there, it’s fun beer.

John D.

18,519 posts

217 months

Yesterday (08:27)
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I don't particularly like Bedford either hehe Bit too flat and featureless.

Glassman

23,151 posts

223 months

Yesterday (08:31)
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MX-5, you say?



HTH

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EmailAddress

13,691 posts

226 months

Yesterday (08:36)
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Glassman said:
MX-5, you say?



HTH

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hehe

All under control.

Rowe

352 posts

130 months

Yesterday (08:48)
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MOT days are great as has already been said and he usually runs mega low numbers. I've been on a MOT day at Croft before and there was less than 20 cars booked.

I would ABSOLUTELY steer well clear of any track evenings. Every one I've been on has been complete chaos.

s55shh

509 posts

220 months

Yesterday (09:15)
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Steve H said:
1. Book tuition.

2. Don’t book Bedford. If the best thing you can say about a track is it’s hard to crash, it’s a poor recommendation (feel free to look up my previous posts on this tor more detail laugh).

3. Not a novice day. Who ever thought it would be a good idea to let all the inexperienced drivers out on track at the same time? paperbag

4. MoT or other clubbie days are a good option. Less likelihood of teams testing, generally more inclusive atmosphere will be a nice way to start. BMW Car Club run similar days and are happy to see other makes of car.

5. Don’t drive like a plank and the odds of crashing fall significantly, get out there, it’s fun beer.
I embedded my elise is the tyre wall at Cadwell when I had an instructor in with me saying, "It will go around this faster". He was incorrect and he walked back. Thankfully the car was undamaged

BertBert

19,729 posts

219 months

Yesterday (09:58)
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Terminator X said:
Same. I've been there loads of times and the people attending all seem to be sensible too eg no nutters overtaking in the corners.

TX.
Apart from the famous kebab guy biggrin

But to the OP, I think it's not bad at all. If you are sensible and just get round and build up, you should be fine
Also get instruction early doors that is super good for getting better and getting confidence

Discendo Discimus

541 posts

40 months

Yesterday (10:36)
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s55shh said:
Steve H said:
1. Book tuition.

2. Don’t book Bedford. If the best thing you can say about a track is it’s hard to crash, it’s a poor recommendation (feel free to look up my previous posts on this tor more detail laugh).

3. Not a novice day. Who ever thought it would be a good idea to let all the inexperienced drivers out on track at the same time? paperbag

4. MoT or other clubbie days are a good option. Less likelihood of teams testing, generally more inclusive atmosphere will be a nice way to start. BMW Car Club run similar days and are happy to see other makes of car.

5. Don’t drive like a plank and the odds of crashing fall significantly, get out there, it’s fun beer.
I embedded my elise is the tyre wall at Cadwell when I had an instructor in with me saying, "It will go around this faster". He was incorrect and he walked back. Thankfully the car was undamaged
I'm sure the car was capable, maybe not the driver.

jj.

558 posts

278 months

Yesterday (11:03)
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John D. said:
In answer to the OP, book a day at Bedford. There's loads of run off, you'd have to be really trying to hit something.
Whilst I agree, the banked grass (end of straight) and after the double left hander, always worry me. If it goes wrong in this two places, then you have no where to go..! Not sure why they didn't re-profile these at some point. Maybe no-one has ever gone off here...?
jj

braddo

11,282 posts

196 months

Yesterday (11:16)
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JackAttack2002 said:
I recently brought this mx5 and I've really been wanting to do a track evening.
FYI there are no track evenings now until May next year when the days are long enough. But a full track day is good value at this time of year, so do it!

If you haven't owned a RWD car before then spend some time getting used to driving your car on the road - no hardship at all when it's a MX5.

Lift-off oversteer - make sure you know what this is if you don't already. A big lift mid-corner, or turning when braking heavily, are the most common causes of a spin.

Book tuition sessions on your track day. Ideally one at the very start and one later in the day so you can get feedback on your progress.