Is this overreacting?

Author
Discussion

Drawweight

Original Poster:

3,321 posts

131 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all


I’ve got a friend who has a little website selling homemade gifts and she put this up on her Facebook page recently. I used to have a little side website myself but sold it just after Brexit. The only extra problem I had was the extra custom declaration.

Would I have faced the same as her and is it really bad enough just to give up altogether?

Drumroll

4,168 posts

135 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
no it is not overreacting. As the EU brings in new regulations we will get left more and more behind.

Whilst we were in the EU we had people who sat on the committees that oversaw the implementation of these regulations being implemented. Now we just sit on the outside having to implement whatever the EU decides.

JMGS4

8,835 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
Yes, damn annoying when one's grocer (Fortnum and Mason) can no longer send anything to Germany, but to the furthest outposts of the Empire no problems!!!

OutInTheShed

11,527 posts

41 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
Would the cost of complying with EUSSR regulations actually be any less if the business was in the EU?

I used to be part of a firm that made 'stuff', the only way we could sell that 'stuff' was into markets exempt from all sorts of approval testing which would have cost a lot.

It's been very hard for small firms and individuals to legally sell stuff to consumers for a while.
A lot of people have been winging it.

bitchstewie

59,061 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
"Welcome to the Brexit, sir" unfortunately frown

Randy Winkman

19,050 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
I know it now takes about 3 weeks rather than 3 days for gifts to get to my family in Sweden.

swisstoni

20,008 posts

294 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
What would be the worst that could happen if this firm carried on doing what they were doing until there was any further clarification from the official bodies?

Paddymcc

1,121 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
Randy Winkman said:
I know it now takes about 3 weeks rather than 3 days for gifts to get to my family in Sweden.
We had the same issue using royal mail for packages to Sweden. They were taking 3 weeks to get delivered.

Drive a few miles down the road and mailed them with An Post in Ireland and they arrive in 4/5 days.

CloudStuff

3,989 posts

119 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
But it's worth it for the benefits, yeah? That's what the thickos promised.

nikaiyo2

5,348 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
Randy Winkman said:
I know it now takes about 3 weeks rather than 3 days for gifts to get to my family in Sweden.
It must be Sweden Specific, I sent a package to Denmark on Thursday it was there Saturday.

Drumroll

4,168 posts

135 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
swisstoni said:
What would be the worst that could happen if this firm carried on doing what they were doing until there was any further clarification from the official bodies?
The stuff gets impounded by customs (on any part of it's journey) So they end up having to refund the buyer and may not get their product back. If you were a small business would you risk it?

jesusbuiltmycar

4,872 posts

269 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
Drumroll said:
no it is not overreacting. As the EU brings in new regulations we will get left more and more behind.

Whilst we were in the EU we had people who sat on the committees that oversaw the implementation of these regulations being implemented. Now we just sit on the outside having to implement whatever the EU decides.
and you have to remember that all this extra regulation is doing wonders for the EU:

Europe Regulates its way to Last Place

Drahgi Report said:
America innovates, China replicates, Europe regulates

Skodillac

7,767 posts

45 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
This is why it should never have been put to a referendum. Complex issues like our trading relationships are best dealt with through the chamber of our elected representatives, who are elected to serve our best interests and not our opinions, rather than by shouting match replete with swathes of misinformation and emotive twaddle. Brexit was and remains a terrible idea, and terrible ideas, even ones which have an apparent small majority of a section the electorate in favour of them (we'll never know if it was a majority of the entire electorate as there wasn't 100% turn out), should not be implemented.

And here we are.

Yeah, I know. "You lost, get over it." That makes everything all right, of course. Carry on.

Skodillac

7,767 posts

45 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
jesusbuiltmycar said:
Drumroll said:
no it is not overreacting. As the EU brings in new regulations we will get left more and more behind.

Whilst we were in the EU we had people who sat on the committees that oversaw the implementation of these regulations being implemented. Now we just sit on the outside having to implement whatever the EU decides.
and you have to remember that all this extra regulation is doing wonders for the EU:

Europe Regulates its way to Last Place

Drahgi Report said:
America innovates, China replicates, Europe regulates
And the UK sinks without trace.

monkfish1

12,130 posts

239 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
I see the usual brexit nonsense being pedalled. This regulation applies to those in EU as well as those wishing to sell into the EU.

The cost of compliance is the same regardless.

It is, whichever side of the channel you are, a burden on small business more so than large.

Wait until CBAM comes into effect in 2027.............

Skeptisk

8,897 posts

124 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
I’ve seen that with a number of small businesses.

So much dissembling at the time of the vote. Promising less red tape when it was obvious that being outside the customs union with our main export market would increase, not decrease, red tape and make it harder to trade (making trade easier is pretty much the main reason for having a customs union).



jonsp

1,212 posts

171 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
Could this Authoritive Representative be some company in the EU that acts for multiple importers - or does it have to be 1 rep for each company?

monkfish1

12,130 posts

239 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
jonsp said:
Could this Authoritive Representative be some company in the EU that acts for multiple importers - or does it have to be 1 rep for each company?
Either as i understand it.

.:ian:.

2,548 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
monkfish1 said:
I see the usual brexit nonsense being pedalled. This regulation applies to those in EU as well as those wishing to sell into the EU.

The cost of compliance is the same regardless.

It is, whichever side of the channel you are, a burden on small business more so than large.

Wait until CBAM comes into effect in 2027.............
Totally. Whilst we would techically have had say if we were still in, I doubt concerns about the effect on handmade trinkets from Scotland would cause the whole bill to be abandoned.

bigandclever

14,047 posts

253 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
quotequote all
A quick squizz suggests it's an extra €17000 a year for them for the GPSR100 annual cost (172 products > €9,900 for 100 products + €99 for each additional product).