Snp 50 mph for cars
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ts with fCan't agree more.
Only thing I would say is that on the Gateshead Western Bypass, a 50mph limit was set rather than the previous 70. What it did was calm traffic down, less fast lane changes, rapid acceleration, braking etc and the traffic flow was actually smoother and no less fast. That was a VERY busy road however, often nose to tail, with sudden stops due to the movements mentioned above. When someone pulled out of an on slip, changed lanes or braked suddenly, the ripple effect back over could go over a mile like a Mexican wave.
Only thing I would say is that on the Gateshead Western Bypass, a 50mph limit was set rather than the previous 70. What it did was calm traffic down, less fast lane changes, rapid acceleration, braking etc and the traffic flow was actually smoother and no less fast. That was a VERY busy road however, often nose to tail, with sudden stops due to the movements mentioned above. When someone pulled out of an on slip, changed lanes or braked suddenly, the ripple effect back over could go over a mile like a Mexican wave.
It's simply another cash cow from the SNP.
I drove 44 tonne HGVs for many years and I've never seen an HGV sitting at 40mph on a single carriageway unless they's been flashed for a speed trap ahead. There's an unwritten rule on the A9 that as long as an HGV doesn't exceed 50mph they don't get pulled for speeding. I was on the M77 yesterday sitting behind an HGV tipper truck that by law should be limited to 56mph and my speedometer was showing an indicated 74mph.
I drove 44 tonne HGVs for many years and I've never seen an HGV sitting at 40mph on a single carriageway unless they's been flashed for a speed trap ahead. There's an unwritten rule on the A9 that as long as an HGV doesn't exceed 50mph they don't get pulled for speeding. I was on the M77 yesterday sitting behind an HGV tipper truck that by law should be limited to 56mph and my speedometer was showing an indicated 74mph.
There is a pretty good case for upping the HGV limits, it would at least allow them to be legal at the speed the majority already do.
Maybe there is some argument for a blanket 50 limit to ease traffic flow on a few extremely busy routes (at certain times of day?). Basically when everyone is trundling along nose to tail anyway but it would still prevent motorbikes etc from making safe progress. No mention of the relative stopping distance of an HGV vs Car though so it's not about safety.
On the other 95% of rural or quiet routes it effectively makes legally overtaking a slow moving HGV (or other vehicle) more difficult and potentially dangerous.
There is no mention of driver education or driving safely to the conditions...
Another case of money making and/or legislating for the lowest common denominator.
Edited to add:
Have your say.
https://www.transport.gov.scot/consultation/nation...
Maybe there is some argument for a blanket 50 limit to ease traffic flow on a few extremely busy routes (at certain times of day?). Basically when everyone is trundling along nose to tail anyway but it would still prevent motorbikes etc from making safe progress. No mention of the relative stopping distance of an HGV vs Car though so it's not about safety.
On the other 95% of rural or quiet routes it effectively makes legally overtaking a slow moving HGV (or other vehicle) more difficult and potentially dangerous.
There is no mention of driver education or driving safely to the conditions...
Another case of money making and/or legislating for the lowest common denominator.
Edited to add:
Have your say.
https://www.transport.gov.scot/consultation/nation...
Edited by alicrozier on Friday 29th November 11:19
I filled out the consultation last night, it's not quite the 5 minute job I was expecting.
Complete nonsense, once you get north of the central belt you can't get everywhere using motorways or dual carriageways.
I came in from Alford this morning, following an articulated lorry. Speeds ranged from about 30 to 55, with the 30 limits not necessarily seeing him slow to 30. I was surprised to read they should be 40 on our local roads.
Complete nonsense, once you get north of the central belt you can't get everywhere using motorways or dual carriageways.
I came in from Alford this morning, following an articulated lorry. Speeds ranged from about 30 to 55, with the 30 limits not necessarily seeing him slow to 30. I was surprised to read they should be 40 on our local roads.
47p2 said:
There's an unwritten rule on the A9 that as long as an HGV doesn't exceed 50mph they don't get pulled for speeding.
It is written, it is a speed pilot trial https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2014/274/pdfs/s...On rural roads I am still a fan of driving to the conditions/visual area - in some areas that might be only 20 or 30mph but there are also other areas where it would be possible to go faster than the current 60mph limit.
& as we all know, there are also places where the possibility of actually being able to drive at the legal limit allowed is often a pipe dream ...
Edited by Heidfirst on Friday 29th November 13:34
Patrick Bateman said:
The consultation feels loaded in its possible answers. There's an 'unsure' option but not a 'no difference/effect' option.
The first question from any MR / Consultation data prep .... "What answer do you want from the survey..."I get fed up with the obvious bias in the government / council surveys / consultations as they are always trying to game the outcome. No integrity left.
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