RE: Ford restructures in Europe, 800 UK jobs to go

RE: Ford restructures in Europe, 800 UK jobs to go

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Ford restructures in Europe, 800 UK jobs to go

Plan for 'long-term competitiveness in Europe' will see thousands of jobs go in its passenger vehicle business


Ford has confirmed that 4,000 jobs will go across its European workforce, as part of a plan to ‘create a more cost competitive structure'. The cuts, which will include around 800 UK-based roles, are expected to occur by the end of 2027. It follows a fairly torrid time for the industry generally - Covid, supply chains, inflation, limited EV demand - and a rotten couple of years for Ford generally, with the demise of the much-loved Fiesta and electric cars that have been good rather than great. The Focus ST will bow out in fine fettle, the continued evolution of the Mustang is great news, and the Ranger Raptor is brilliant - but their standout quality has served to highlight its shortfall elsewhere. At least the Puma still sells extremely well. 

In its announcement, Ford spoke of the ‘significant disruption’ in the shift towards electrified mobility and the dichotomy between what they’re being asked to make and what people actually want to buy. CFO and Vice Chairman John Lawler wrote a letter to the German government as part of the restructure confirmation; he said:  “What we lack in Europe and Germany is an unmistakable, clear policy agenda to advance e-mobility, such as public investments in charging infrastructure, meaningful incentives to help consumers make the shift to electrified vehicles, improving cost competitiveness for manufacturers, and greater flexibility in meeting CO2 compliance targets.” Plenty that’s been heard before, though it does seem to come with additional urgency now Ford is having to axe thousands of jobs to stay on track. Ford says it’s still committed to no longer selling combustion engined cars in Europe from 2035. 

The bulk of the job losses will come in Germany, with something like 2,900 roles up for redundancy. Weaker than expected demand for EVs (after a $2bn investment in the Cologne facility and staff) will see the Explorer and Capri production lines run at reduced capacity. Over here, the losses will be in admin, commercial and development roles, rather than at factories like Dagenham or Halewood. 

Bleak news then, though Ford says it remains committed to the continent. Dave Johnston, Ford’s European vice president for Transformation and Partnerships, added: “We are proud of our new product portfolio for Europe and committed to building a thriving business in Europe for generations to come. It is critical to take difficult but decisive action to ensure Ford’s future competitiveness in Europe.” We’re told to expect a future line-up with a ‘thriving’ Ford Pro CV business, a select range of passenger cars (and powertrains) that are ‘successful and profitable’ as well as a ‘modern, highly efficient industrial system.’ All sounds very sensible, though at the moment it feels like strategy, ambition and targets will have to remain fluid as the situation continues to evolve. In the meantime, and more pertinently: best of British to any Ford employees directly affected. 


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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,166 posts

217 months

Yesterday (21:56)
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It’s hard to see which direction Ford in Europe are headed other than backwards.

They aren’t going to survive on Mustangs (£5k first year road tax anyone?), the VW based Explorer and Capri have had a mediocre reception and the Mach E already isn’t selling. The Focus is close to the chop and the Fiesta already gone.

What does that leave? Puma and Kuga plus the Commercials.

At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.

Pica-Pica

14,456 posts

91 months

Yesterday (22:10)
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GTEYE said:
It’s hard to see which direction Ford in Europe are headed other than backwards.

They aren’t going to survive on Mustangs (£5k first year road tax anyone?), the VW based Explorer and Capri have had a mediocre reception and the Mach E already isn’t selling. The Focus is close to the chop and the Fiesta already gone.

What does that leave? Puma and Kuga plus the Commercials.

At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.
… ‘At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.’…

If you are talking production, Commercials moved to Turkey a while ago (As well as other non-European factories). No Commercials are made in Europe.

flight147z

1,078 posts

136 months

Yesterday (22:14)
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Pica-Pica said:
… ‘At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.’…

If you are talking production, Commercials moved to Turkey a while ago (As well as other non-European factories). No Commercials are made in Europe.
I think he means retails!

valiant

11,327 posts

167 months

Yesterday (22:30)
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I’m not sure of Ford’s strategy nowadays.

I’ve had a few Ford’s in the past where there was a model for everyone and a spread of variations within that model line.

Now? A Puma or a Kuga now that the Focus is almost gone? Hardly the land of plenty is it? Two uninspiring cars in a sea or mediocrity that do little to distinguish themselves from the competition.

Electric is no better. The Explorer seems a decent enough choice but the new Capri? Just no.

Ford need to do a lot better.


Square Leg

14,935 posts

196 months

Yesterday (22:36)
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Pica-Pica said:
… ‘At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.’…

If you are talking production, Commercials moved to Turkey a while ago (As well as other non-European factories). No Commercials are made in Europe.
The new Transit Courier is built in Romania in the same factory as the Puma.

bigyoungdave

142 posts

34 months

Yesterday (22:37)
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EV revolution going really well

Terminator X

16,303 posts

211 months

Yesterday (22:41)
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GTEYE said:
It’s hard to see which direction Ford in Europe are headed other than backwards.

They aren’t going to survive on Mustangs (£5k first year road tax anyone?), the VW based Explorer and Capri have had a mediocre reception and the Mach E already isn’t selling. The Focus is close to the chop and the Fiesta already gone.

What does that leave? Puma and Kuga plus the Commercials.

At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.
The bump in VED for ICE will just compound their problems imho as people will just sit on the cars they own now. Same for all other car companies. No worries though as they seem to have it stress free right now rofl

TX.

GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,166 posts

217 months

Yesterday (22:57)
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flight147z said:
Pica-Pica said:
… ‘At this rate I’d not be surprised if Ford of Europe was Commecials only within 5 years. That would be a real tragedy.’…

If you are talking production, Commercials moved to Turkey a while ago (As well as other non-European factories). No Commercials are made in Europe.
I think he means retails!
Correct. They’re making profit from the Commercials built as said in Turkey and Romania, but the passenger car side is increasingly looking wobbly.


Greenbot35

190 posts

100 months

Yesterday (22:57)
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I feel that we are told what we should like rather than a choice of buying what we want. All the cars are suv or crossovers, no coupes, hot hatches, convertibles or like.

If all customers wanted suvs then the cars would be selling, historically I know the suv has sold well but now its the only option is the market saturated? Has the trend run its course?

All I can say is nothing ford makes now interests me apart from the mustang.

blearyeyedboy

6,549 posts

186 months

Yesterday (23:01)
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The market would be quite happy to buy decent EVs.

The market is not happy to buy warmed up VW leftovers like the Explorer and Capri.

Want to sell more EVs by 2035, Ford? Then make some that aren't st.

OoopsVoss

600 posts

17 months

Yesterday (23:06)
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Unless there is a return to ultra low interest rates, this is a non-reversible trend. 2nd hand buyers are nice for residuals and liquidity but second order effect.

Its a numbers game, you need to be lean to survive.

DP14

287 posts

46 months

Yesterday (23:18)
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Easy to be critical, but what's the solution?

Ford's problem (and GM's before it exited Europe) is that it's stuck in the middle. In the Ford/GM Europe heyday of what, 80s-90s, budget cars were crap and people were embarrassed to be seen in them, while premium brands were better but out of reach. Budget cars improved and people became less ashamed, proud even, of economising while premium brands lowered their entry level, squeezing the likes of Ford from both sides.

Chimaera98

90 posts

22 months

Yesterday (23:21)
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It was the Capri launch event last weekend at my local dealership. 3 Capri’s there, one emblazoned along the doors the “Legend is Back.”

Went past on Saturday and Sunday and both times there were no customers around. No banners or anything promoting the car and nothing substantial on Social Media. It was like the Dealership couldn’t even be bothered promoting it.

You have to wonder had Ford brought out a Capri as a modern retro coupe then people would have been down there looking at it (and putting in orders).

I think many manufacturers would kill to have an iconic retro brand like Capri, but Ford completely misjudged it.

They have lost the plot, they seem to be run by play it safe accountants, with just a line up of four or five SUV’s. with no European “Halo” models. I too can see little future for them other than commercials, if they continue with the current line up.

David87

6,787 posts

219 months

Yesterday (23:30)
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I’m assuming the Fiesta will return in a couple of years as a totally awesome EV version of its former self, right?

Right? frown

LuS1fer

41,735 posts

252 months

Yesterday (23:43)
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I see plenty of Pumas and probably Kugas ( who knows, they tend to look alike) and even the odd Mach E but still haven't seen a new Capri.

DP14

287 posts

46 months

Yesterday (23:43)
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Chimaera98 said:
You have to wonder had Ford brought out a Capri as a modern retro coupe then people would have been down there looking at it (and putting in orders).
On hearing about it many would say they'd buy. Some would look. Few would order.

The (mass market) coupe is a dead/dying segment. At best there'd be an initial flurry of orders that then peter out.

Mr Tidy

24,297 posts

134 months

Yesterday (23:45)
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Chimaera98 said:
It was the Capri launch event last weekend at my local dealership. 3 Capri’s there, one emblazoned along the doors the “Legend is Back.”

Went past on Saturday and Sunday and both times there were no customers around. No banners or anything promoting the car and nothing substantial on Social Media. It was like the Dealership couldn’t even be bothered promoting it.

You have to wonder had Ford brought out a Capri as a modern retro coupe then people would have been down there looking at it (and putting in orders).

I think many manufacturers would kill to have an iconic retro brand like Capri, but Ford completely misjudged it.

They have lost the plot, they seem to be run by play it safe accountants, with just a line up of four or five SUV’s. with no European “Halo” models. I too can see little future for them other than commercials, if they continue with the current line up.
As a two time owner of 2.8i Capris the Capri died in 1987 for me.

They came up with the Probe which was only a rebadged Mazda MX6 anyway. I told the guy on the Ford stand at the Motor Show in 1988 it just wasn't a Capri. It was FWD, barely any more powerful and just didn't look like a Capri. I'd go to the Mazda stand if I wanted one of those. He didn't know how to reply.

But this latest iteration is just terrible on a different scale, much like the Puma and Kuga!

After killing the Mondeo, Focus and Fiesta commercials made in the former Eastern Bloc may be their only hope of survival in Europe. Not everyone wants an SUV.

LuS1fer

41,735 posts

252 months

Yesterday (23:50)
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DP14 said:
Chimaera98 said:
You have to wonder had Ford brought out a Capri as a modern retro coupe then people would have been down there looking at it (and putting in orders).
On hearing about it many would say they'd buy. Some would look. Few would order.

The (mass market) coupe is a dead/dying segment. At best there'd be an initial flurry of orders that then peter out.
Corolla GR suggests otherwise but it is a small sector but the exact sort of thing that would interest me as an ICE car, however, given Ford's ability to make a great handling car.

rallycross

13,271 posts

244 months

Yesterday (23:55)
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Ford what’s gone so wrong ?

No fiesta
No focus soon
No mondeo
No Ka?

Soon will be no point and no showrooms or jobs.

DP14

287 posts

46 months

Yesterday (23:58)
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LuS1fer said:
DP14 said:
Chimaera98 said:
You have to wonder had Ford brought out a Capri as a modern retro coupe then people would have been down there looking at it (and putting in orders).
On hearing about it many would say they'd buy. Some would look. Few would order.

The (mass market) coupe is a dead/dying segment. At best there'd be an initial flurry of orders that then peter out.
Corolla GR suggests otherwise but it is a small sector but the exact sort of thing that would interest me as an ICE car, however, given Ford's ability to make a great handling car.
Corolla GR would appear to be a 5-door hatchback.