A217 Sutton - Banstead Mad mile to get 40 mph limit

[4Mille 5Cento]

There are signs up about a consultation for the limit to go down from 60 mph to 40 mph early next year .
People have complained about the speeding .
Note ,there are no houses on this stretch ,there is only a golf course both sides .

The limit was reduced from NSL 70 10 or more years ago .

There are only 2 types of driver on this road , those that ignore the limit and drive the fastest they possibly can get in 1 mile or the timid who drive in lane 2 at about 35 mph .

It's the only road in the whole area with a limit over 40 .

Will there be new cameras to enforce the new limit ?....very likely ,or else what's the point of doing it !

[David_M]

I have lived nearby for nearly 35 years.

In the old days, there was almost guaranteed to be an article a few days after "new registrations" in August that someone had taken their brand new car for a blast there and totalled it!

Now, it's quite surprising that stretch is not 40 already, given that everything south of it to the M25 is (and average speed cameras all the way, so people actually comply).

[RSTurboPaul]

Perhaps a link to the consultation to enable review and response might be useful...


https://www.surreysays.co.uk/environment-and-infra...

https://www.surreysays.co.uk/environment-and-infra...

https://www.surreysays.co.uk/environment-and-infra...

https://www.surreysays.co.uk/environment-and-infra...


I note the Statement of Reasons says:

Statement of Reasons said:

A speed limit assessment has been carried out on the A217 and following the processes set out in Surrey County Council’s Policy for Setting Local Speed Limits. A reduction of the speed limit on A217 Brighton Road complies with the policy and is supported by Surrey Police and Local Members for the reduction to 40mph.

I'm intrigued as to how a road with no dwellings or accesses complies with the Policy for Setting Local Speed Limits - it could be worth a review of that to understand if they are stretching the truth

It could also be worth asking for any speed survey data that is available - I suspect 85th percentile speed will be in the 50s but, of course, 'Setting Local Speed Limits' guidance from government allows them to use Average Speed instead which invariably means a 10mph lower limit can be 'justified'.

[FMOB]

This is news, there is still a road with a 60mph limit inside the M25?

Talk about unicorns!

[MrBen.911]

It was only a matter of time, considering that much of Sutton is now a 20 limit. I'd thought they would do this when they put in the average speed cameras a few years back but the 60 limit survived for a little longer, and no cameras on the mad mile as yet - no doubt they will be coming...

It was certainly a good testing ground back in the day, and was the site of a few panicked moments arriving at the roundabout somewhat faster than intended when braking was left a bit too late!

[Mr Tidy]

I suppose it was always going to happen given that all of the A217 either end of it has had a 40 limit for years.

Back in the 70s and 80s it used to be flat out.

[PenelopaPitstop]

Don't forget to fill the survey and object. I saw signs yesterday and filled the survey straight away.

[Jonathanmendes07]

What’s the link for the survey I can’t find it anywhere.

They seem to have made the signs particularly small

[RSTurboPaul]

Jonathanmendes07 said:

What’s the link for the survey I can’t find it anywhere.

They seem to have made the signs particularly small

Um... have you read this thread?

[Mr Tidy]

Just made my objection and passed the link on to my sister who lives in Sutton.

[ukwill]

Absolutely no reason to make this stretch a 40.

Council revenue generator.

[bolidemichael]

I’ve objected — no need to impede progress unnecessarily. I expect that reasonable statement to be cast aside for the sake of officiousness and ideological pettiness. How on earth did we let these librarians take over?