M2C Remap - Help!
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Hi all,
Haven't been here for some time, but nice to be back and looking for advice!
I can't find anything that interests at the moment (within a reasonable budget) I've just sold my 2022 S3 due to boredom. Had plenty of Golf Rs, S3's M135 etc, i was thinking of the new RS3, but it's stayed at 400bhp and I think there's more fun to he had with 60k (that's a different debate)
So Im thinking of reliving the youth a bit and getting something modified, the 2019/20 M2 Competition is a lovely shape (IMO) and a lot of car for something low mileage at £33k ish. Then the plan would be to Stage 1 or Stage 2 it.
Has anyone done this on the M2C, any experience, recommendations, thoughts?
Thanks in advance, B
Haven't been here for some time, but nice to be back and looking for advice!
I can't find anything that interests at the moment (within a reasonable budget) I've just sold my 2022 S3 due to boredom. Had plenty of Golf Rs, S3's M135 etc, i was thinking of the new RS3, but it's stayed at 400bhp and I think there's more fun to he had with 60k (that's a different debate)
So Im thinking of reliving the youth a bit and getting something modified, the 2019/20 M2 Competition is a lovely shape (IMO) and a lot of car for something low mileage at £33k ish. Then the plan would be to Stage 1 or Stage 2 it.
Has anyone done this on the M2C, any experience, recommendations, thoughts?
Thanks in advance, B
From what I re member when I had my 2018 M2C, the later cars ecu was locked and only a few places could do a bench unlock.
I purposely had no ecu updates done to my car by the dealer as it was found that some updates were actively locking the ecu in the earlier cars.
There was a long thread on Bimmerpost somewhere..
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/index.php
I purposely had no ecu updates done to my car by the dealer as it was found that some updates were actively locking the ecu in the earlier cars.
There was a long thread on Bimmerpost somewhere..
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/index.php
I had a stage 2 tuned OG with lots of mods (Sports CAT, MPE, Coilovers, spacers).
It was a great car abnd I sold it in June and bought an F Type R which I am regretting.
No such thing as not enough Power so if you are interested in one I would say do it. Speak to one of the proper tuners (Litchfield, A Reeve etc) and they can talk you through if the ECU is unlocked and options on tuning (including doing the crankhub).
The comp sounds crap as standard but if you are tuning the car you will probably need to get that addressed anyway. The standard suspension can be fidgety so a decent set of coilovers is also well worth the money.
The M2 / Comp is a a brilliant car for the money and the perfect size for A/B roads, the only let down is the interior but the comp seats are very good.
It was a great car abnd I sold it in June and bought an F Type R which I am regretting.
No such thing as not enough Power so if you are interested in one I would say do it. Speak to one of the proper tuners (Litchfield, A Reeve etc) and they can talk you through if the ECU is unlocked and options on tuning (including doing the crankhub).
The comp sounds crap as standard but if you are tuning the car you will probably need to get that addressed anyway. The standard suspension can be fidgety so a decent set of coilovers is also well worth the money.
The M2 / Comp is a a brilliant car for the money and the perfect size for A/B roads, the only let down is the interior but the comp seats are very good.
BMWM2Black said:
I had a stage 2 tuned OG with lots of mods (Sports CAT, MPE, Coilovers, spacers).
It was a great car abnd I sold it in June and bought an F Type R which I am regretting.
No such thing as not enough Power so if you are interested in one I would say do it. Speak to one of the proper tuners (Litchfield, A Reeve etc) and they can talk you through if the ECU is unlocked and options on tuning (including doing the crankhub).
The comp sounds crap as standard but if you are tuning the car you will probably need to get that addressed anyway. The standard suspension can be fidgety so a decent set of coilovers is also well worth the money.
The M2 / Comp is a a brilliant car for the money and the perfect size for A/B roads, the only let down is the interior but the comp seats are very good.
Brilliant advice thanks! Would you mind putting a ballpark figure on what you spent on the mods? It was a great car abnd I sold it in June and bought an F Type R which I am regretting.
No such thing as not enough Power so if you are interested in one I would say do it. Speak to one of the proper tuners (Litchfield, A Reeve etc) and they can talk you through if the ECU is unlocked and options on tuning (including doing the crankhub).
The comp sounds crap as standard but if you are tuning the car you will probably need to get that addressed anyway. The standard suspension can be fidgety so a decent set of coilovers is also well worth the money.
The M2 / Comp is a a brilliant car for the money and the perfect size for A/B roads, the only let down is the interior but the comp seats are very good.
NWMark said:
June 2020 is the magic date - you want a car built before this date otherwise the ecu will be locked.
Late 2019 / early 2020 cars will have an ECU that can only be benched unlocked but that's only a minor inconvenience.
That really helps narrow down, thanks! I'm assuming after June 2020 it's impossible to unlock?Late 2019 / early 2020 cars will have an ECU that can only be benched unlocked but that's only a minor inconvenience.
Beanie said:
Brilliant advice thanks! Would you mind putting a ballpark figure on what you spent on the mods?
Sure VSRF Sports CAT - £250
Larger intercooler - £500 Unused
Charge Pipe - Cant remember the cost, not alot
My M performance exchaust was £1200
Bootmood 3 (BM3) license was £300 used
I paid £800 for a used set of Bilstein coilovers which was a bargain.
Got my local specialist to fit them. Not sure how different the costs would be for the comp engine but gives you an idea.
I think the comp already has the uprated fuel pump so that wouldnt be needed.
I sold my OG fully modified. There are some really nice cars already out there so if its something you are considering its worth looking at esp as a modfied car isnt as easy to sell so you might get a bargain compared to improving a stock car.
The M2 Facebook groups are really good (if you are on on them already).
If you decide to get it mapped properly they can set it to match your needs and have different maps that can be selected by using the buttons on the wheel. I went down the route of doing it myself with BM3.
Edited by BMWM2Black on Monday 4th November 14:07
BMWM2Black said:
Sure
VSRF Sports CAT - £250
Larger intercooler - £500 Unused
Charge Pipe - Cant remember the cost, not alot
My M performance exchaust was £1200
Bootmood 3 (BM3) license was £300 used
I paid £800 for a used set of Bilstein coilovers which was a bargain.
Got my local specialist to fit them. Not sure how different the costs would be for the comp engine but gives you an idea.
I think the comp already has the uprated fuel pump so that wouldnt be needed.
I sold my OG fully modified. There are some really nice cars already out there so if its something you are considering its worth looking at esp as a modfied car isnt as easy to sell so you might get a bargain compared to improving a stock car.
The M2 Facebook groups are really good (if you are on on them already).
Again, brilliant help, thanks! VSRF Sports CAT - £250
Larger intercooler - £500 Unused
Charge Pipe - Cant remember the cost, not alot
My M performance exchaust was £1200
Bootmood 3 (BM3) license was £300 used
I paid £800 for a used set of Bilstein coilovers which was a bargain.
Got my local specialist to fit them. Not sure how different the costs would be for the comp engine but gives you an idea.
I think the comp already has the uprated fuel pump so that wouldnt be needed.
I sold my OG fully modified. There are some really nice cars already out there so if its something you are considering its worth looking at esp as a modfied car isnt as easy to sell so you might get a bargain compared to improving a stock car.
The M2 Facebook groups are really good (if you are on on them already).
I'm not on FB, but maybe I should be for this, I'm guessing that's where a lot of the already modified ones are listed? I'd be interested in one already modified too.
Beanie said:
BMWM2Black said:
Sure
VSRF Sports CAT - £250
Larger intercooler - £500 Unused
Charge Pipe - Cant remember the cost, not alot
My M performance exchaust was £1200
Bootmood 3 (BM3) license was £300 used
I paid £800 for a used set of Bilstein coilovers which was a bargain.
Got my local specialist to fit them. Not sure how different the costs would be for the comp engine but gives you an idea.
I think the comp already has the uprated fuel pump so that wouldnt be needed.
I sold my OG fully modified. There are some really nice cars already out there so if its something you are considering its worth looking at esp as a modfied car isnt as easy to sell so you might get a bargain compared to improving a stock car.
The M2 Facebook groups are really good (if you are on on them already).
Again, brilliant help, thanks! VSRF Sports CAT - £250
Larger intercooler - £500 Unused
Charge Pipe - Cant remember the cost, not alot
My M performance exchaust was £1200
Bootmood 3 (BM3) license was £300 used
I paid £800 for a used set of Bilstein coilovers which was a bargain.
Got my local specialist to fit them. Not sure how different the costs would be for the comp engine but gives you an idea.
I think the comp already has the uprated fuel pump so that wouldnt be needed.
I sold my OG fully modified. There are some really nice cars already out there so if its something you are considering its worth looking at esp as a modfied car isnt as easy to sell so you might get a bargain compared to improving a stock car.
The M2 Facebook groups are really good (if you are on on them already).
I'm not on FB, but maybe I should be for this, I'm guessing that's where a lot of the already modified ones are listed? I'd be interested in one already modified too.
I know that DRW Performance who are renowned for doing crankhub fixes on S55's charge £2,000 all in last I heard. Add an extra ~£500 for ECU/TCU remap. All of the hardware listed above is about right for an M2C, charge pipe is ~£200-£300. Instead of an M Performance exhaust, you'll likely want to go for a single or equal length midpipe which is £600-£1800 depending on which (and which brand).
I had an m2comp (from July build) with an ECU that was unlocked, cracking car, definitely could handle more than the standard power, i went stage 2 @ 555bhp with Lichfield and some tuning
swapped intake,
swapped chargecooler
sorted crankhub
swapped suspension to AST
swapped brakes to AP and pads to rs29 (i think)
looked after it but it did about 35 trackdays without missing a beat, great car you wont be disappointed, this is it in the wet with the TC off @555bhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqgYhvJBpj4
swapped intake,
swapped chargecooler
sorted crankhub
swapped suspension to AST
swapped brakes to AP and pads to rs29 (i think)
looked after it but it did about 35 trackdays without missing a beat, great car you wont be disappointed, this is it in the wet with the TC off @555bhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqgYhvJBpj4
MrLizard said:
I had an m2comp (from July build) with an ECU that was unlocked, cracking car, definitely could handle more than the standard power, i went stage 2 @ 555bhp with Lichfield and some tuning
swapped intake,
swapped chargecooler
sorted crankhub
swapped suspension to AST
swapped brakes to AP and pads to rs29 (i think)
looked after it but it did about 35 trackdays without missing a beat, great car you wont be disappointed, this is it in the wet with the TC off @555bhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqgYhvJBpj4
Bl00dy hellswapped intake,
swapped chargecooler
sorted crankhub
swapped suspension to AST
swapped brakes to AP and pads to rs29 (i think)
looked after it but it did about 35 trackdays without missing a beat, great car you wont be disappointed, this is it in the wet with the TC off @555bhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqgYhvJBpj4
BMWM2Black said:
I had a stage 2 tuned OG with lots of mods (Sports CAT, MPE, Coilovers, spacers).
It was a great car abnd I sold it in June and bought an F Type R which I am regretting.
No such thing as not enough Power so if you are interested in one I would say do it. Speak to one of the proper tuners (Litchfield, A Reeve etc) and they can talk you through if the ECU is unlocked and options on tuning (including doing the crankhub).
The comp sounds crap as standard but if you are tuning the car you will probably need to get that addressed anyway. The standard suspension can be fidgety so a decent set of coilovers is also well worth the money.
The M2 / Comp is a a brilliant car for the money and the perfect size for A/B roads, the only let down is the interior but the comp seats are very good.
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but having had an M2C which I sold a couple of months ago I have been thinking about F Type R’s (later ones AWD) - what is it that you are regretting about your change? TIAIt was a great car abnd I sold it in June and bought an F Type R which I am regretting.
No such thing as not enough Power so if you are interested in one I would say do it. Speak to one of the proper tuners (Litchfield, A Reeve etc) and they can talk you through if the ECU is unlocked and options on tuning (including doing the crankhub).
The comp sounds crap as standard but if you are tuning the car you will probably need to get that addressed anyway. The standard suspension can be fidgety so a decent set of coilovers is also well worth the money.
The M2 / Comp is a a brilliant car for the money and the perfect size for A/B roads, the only let down is the interior but the comp seats are very good.
CantDecide said:
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but having had an M2C which I sold a couple of months ago I have been thinking about F Type R’s (later ones AWD) - what is it that you are regretting about your change? TIA
I bought a facelifted 575 so its bascially the SVR engine and chassis set up. Its an epic car and after 1 week I took it to Modstock to get the back boxes done so although its still got filters it sounds much better then standard. Its also fully loaded with loads of extras so its a lovely place to be and more comfortable compared to the offset postion of the M2. It is stupidly fast and with the AWD it gives so much confidence and sticks to the road like glue but there is a little bit of slip from the rear to make it interesting. The gearbox is bloody brilliant and using the paddles you find it hard to keep up with the changes so I tend to use sport auto when really pressing on.
I just think it is a totally different beast to the M2 which was also manual so more engaging at any speed. Even at 430bhp ish my M2 really wouldnt see which way my F Type went but I would be smiling at lower speeds in the M2 When you look down at how fast you are going in the Jag it can be quite scary.
BTW, Ive had a lot of cars (Im 48) and when I parked it on the drive my Mrs said its the only one she has actually liked. LOL
Hope this makes sense. I think both the Jag and M2 are incredible value for money and great cars.
They are a great car as standard but can get big improvements modifying.
Depends what you want to use it for?
I very lightly modified mine for road and to manage the odd Nürburgring trip. Minimal expense mods were Litchfield Stage 1, Eibach lowering springs and better brake pads/fluid/hoses. It was pretty epic at the 'Ring but starting to run out of tyres, suspension and brakes in the dry. In my opinion 'Normal' trackdays need a lot more modification which can get expensive very quickly. On the road I think I have the sweet spot of 'bang for buck'.
Depends what you want to use it for?
I very lightly modified mine for road and to manage the odd Nürburgring trip. Minimal expense mods were Litchfield Stage 1, Eibach lowering springs and better brake pads/fluid/hoses. It was pretty epic at the 'Ring but starting to run out of tyres, suspension and brakes in the dry. In my opinion 'Normal' trackdays need a lot more modification which can get expensive very quickly. On the road I think I have the sweet spot of 'bang for buck'.
Beanie said:
Hi all,
Haven't been here for some time, but nice to be back and looking for advice!
I can't find anything that interests at the moment (within a reasonable budget) I've just sold my 2022 S3 due to boredom. Had plenty of Golf Rs, S3's M135 etc, i was thinking of the new RS3, but it's stayed at 400bhp and I think there's more fun to he had with 60k (that's a different debate)
So Im thinking of reliving the youth a bit and getting something modified, the 2019/20 M2 Competition is a lovely shape (IMO) and a lot of car for something low mileage at £33k ish. Then the plan would be to Stage 1 or Stage 2 it.
Has anyone done this on the M2C, any experience, recommendations, thoughts?
Thanks in advance, B
I think for the road it doesn’t need more power,Haven't been here for some time, but nice to be back and looking for advice!
I can't find anything that interests at the moment (within a reasonable budget) I've just sold my 2022 S3 due to boredom. Had plenty of Golf Rs, S3's M135 etc, i was thinking of the new RS3, but it's stayed at 400bhp and I think there's more fun to he had with 60k (that's a different debate)
So Im thinking of reliving the youth a bit and getting something modified, the 2019/20 M2 Competition is a lovely shape (IMO) and a lot of car for something low mileage at £33k ish. Then the plan would be to Stage 1 or Stage 2 it.
Has anyone done this on the M2C, any experience, recommendations, thoughts?
Thanks in advance, B
If you are going to track it then I would start with brakes and suspension before power.
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