Balsamic Vinegar
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davrian

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322 posts

282 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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One for the foodies! Just done a circuit and bump round Tesco and went for the Balsamic. On perusal it appeared to range from £1.99 up to £11.99 all from Modena, mostly fron the same manufacturer and all the same size. Any clues as to what the difference is?

jessica

6,321 posts

282 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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davrian said:
One for the foodies! Just done a circuit and bump round Tesco and went for the Balsamic. On perusal it appeared to range from £1.99 up to £11.99 all from Modena, mostly fron the same manufacturer and all the same size. Any clues as to what the difference is?

Balsamic is like fine wine.
The more expensive ones will be made from better grapes and indeed matured for longer. maybe even in oak barrels.
that is all I know
and to be honest unless you using it on its own with olive oil to dip crusty french bread then the cheaper varities will do.

davrian

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322 posts

282 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Ah Jessica a true PH Connoisseur like myself. Never mind the quality feel the width. Thanks for the advice I'll spend the savings on wine!!!!

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Wassat then?

bga

8,134 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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unlike wine, your £11 bottle will last a while.

madbadger

11,752 posts

274 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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groucho said:
Wassat then?


Wine?

Red drink. Made from grapes.

Cheers Can't find the wine smiley.

And it was a bit camp.

mxdi

13,994 posts

279 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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I wondered that myself the other day, we opted for the £1.99

rooster

2,241 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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davrian said:
One for the foodies! Just done a circuit and bump round Tesco and went for the Balsamic. On perusal it appeared to range from £1.99 up to £11.99 all from Modena, mostly fron the same manufacturer and all the same size. Any clues as to what the difference is?

apart from price you mean. Always go for the most expensive you can afford, for the proper stuff it has to have matured like a fine wine, preferably in oak, that takes time. £1.99 will taste rough like a crap vinegar, good quality is worth paying out for and you won't use so much. Best stuff is from Modena. of course I am speaking purely from an Italian point of view.

davrian

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322 posts

282 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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So there we go then Nobody knows!!!!

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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There's a huge difference between the cheapies and teh expensive ones, but is made more complicated by overpriced rubbish. THe best ones are sublime, almost syrupy-like with a flavour that goes on and on, but you wouldn't want to use one of those for salad dressing.

father ted

3,069 posts

277 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Balsamic vinegar,olive oil,thinly sliced cloves of garlic,chopped chilli & lemon juice

v. nice to dip fresh warm bread in

KingRichard

10,146 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Zod said:
There's a huge difference between the cheapies and teh expensive ones, but is made more complicated by overpriced rubbish. THe best ones are sublime, almost syrupy-like with a flavour that goes on and on, but you wouldn't want to use one of those for salad dressing.


Dunno, I bought a random bottle the other week to see what it was all about. I've been drowning everything in it since

In fact, I probably could drink a glass at a push.

Does anyone know if you get a comedown from Balsamic?

My names Dave and I'm a Balsam-ic

luca brazzi

3,983 posts

295 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Stunning stuff is :

Carluccio's ACETO BALSAMICO Di Modena

WOW! Get it as a present though
LB

XM5ER

5,094 posts

278 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Generally the more expensive ones have been aged quite a bit which makes them thicker and sweeter. The cheap stuff is fine as an additive to recipes but for drizzling on salad or using as a dip go for something like the Belazu (about £11 but lasts for months).

catso

16,457 posts

297 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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XM5ER said:
(about £11 but lasts for months).


Not in my house

munky

5,328 posts

278 months

Saturday 24th September 2005
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They have different purposes. The cheaper stuff is quite acidic and good for salad dressings, because it has a strong flavour it can be used with other strong flavours. I get through shedloads of the stuff, mixing it with olive oil plus pumpkin seed oil or walnut oil plus garlic, sumac, and whatever else I can find.
The more expensive stuff, as others have said, has been matured longer and is sweet and more viscous. Far less acidic. It can even be used in desserts - try it with strawberries and cream for an interesting taste. You wouldn't do it with the cheaper stuff, it would taste too vinegary and curdle the cream too quickly.
Got some 9 year old stuff in Verona a couple of weeks ago, planning to use it on its own with rocket & parmesan. The shopkeeper did try to sell me his best stuff, £50 for a small bottle with the consistency of treacle. I declined as I'd already spent far too much in his shop, and £50 is getting a little daft for vinegar. However I've had the stuff in restaurants, because of the thick consistency it is used as plate decoration as well as for the incredible taste.
Finally (as far as I know) all Balsamic must be from Modena. Although I may be wrong. As I often am.

blueyes

4,799 posts

282 months

Saturday 24th September 2005
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O.K. Here's the gen on aceto balsamico:

The unique and traditional balsamic vinegar of Modena, Italy (Aceto Balsamico di Modena)is made from the 'must' (unfermented juice) of mainly the Trebbiano grape, other grapes used are Lambrusco, Ancellotta, Sauvignon and Sgavetta. These 'musts' cannot have anything added. The must is then boiled down in open pots over a direct flame.

The extract (concentrated juice) from this cooking is now a fruity syrup. At this point some 'mother' of vinegar can be added. ('Mother' is a stringy, slimy substance that forms on the surface of vinegar, composed of various yeast and bacteria [especially mycoderma aceti] that cause fermentation in wine and cider, and turn it into acetic acid - vinegar). It is then aged in barrels of different woods - first in one, then transferred to another etc.

Each company has its own secret progression of wooden barrels usually including chestnut, ash tree, cherry, mulberry, juniper and oak. The finished vinegar must be at least 6 years old, and some is aged much longer.

The finished vinegar is then presented to the DOC, a governing body similar to those that govern the quality of French and Italian wines. Balsamic vinegars without this designation on the label are usually unaged or aged for six months to a year in stainless steel tanks.


The really old stuff is excellent drizzled over Parmigiano Reggiano cheese and, amazingly, it's lovely with strawberries!