DB11 AMR performance pack
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I've never heard of an 'AMR performance pack' on DB11 V12 without it being clear that it is exactly the same thing as the dealer-offered AMR upgrade.
AFAIK, from the point of launch in 2016 to the mid 2018 (I think MY 2018.5) rename/ update there was never mention of AMR-anything as any option in any of the road tests, press reports or options lists.
In response to the V8 engined car being judged by most journalists as the sharper tool, in 2018 AML made some changes to the V12 to sharpen it up, the marketing guys naturally took the opportunity and went as far as actually renaming the MY 2018.5 on DB11 V12 as the DB11 AMR. It was a bit an extreme move as the vast majority of the update was just new software calibration of engine, gearbox and damping to create a more exciting feeling, snappier and firmer damped car with lots of pops and bangs and a bit more power. These changes seemed to have the effect AM had hoped, the journalists raved about the 'new' car.
Obviously the move annoyed many of those who'd gone and bought a launch edition car, so AM quietly offered the entire suite of the updated cars engine, gearbox and damping calibration software as an update pack for all 2017-2018 MY owners. The car simply required a couple of hours at a dealer for the ECU reflashes. Originally they were asking around £5k, but it's now around £1k. The 'AMR pack' includes a new engine plaque with AMR printed on it. 'final inspection by AMR' whatever that means.... From what I've read, some dealers either forgot to fit the plaque, or some owners asked them not to, as not all DB11 V12 with the AMR update seem to wear the plaque.
I guess it's possible that where a customer had ordered a DB11 V12 (say in Feb 2018, just before the announcement of the release of the updated car, the factory may have just applied the AMR software, which then may be referenced somewhere, which might answer the question, though if this was the case the affected cars would likely only be MY2018.25
Hardware wise, the only changes were stiffer subframe bushes. There engine, transmission and suspension hardware were all identical between DB11 V12 and DB11 AMR. There was also a claim of a slightly (0.5mm) thicker Anti Roll Bar at one end, though I've never been able to actually verify that as part numbers appear to be the same.
The AMR did come with fantastic lightweight forged wheels, which did reduce unsprung mass and would certainly have sharpened the front end on turn in.
The rest was cosmetic, smoked rear lamps, dark chrome where before was shiny, AMR logos in the seats and some bits of carbon fibre and if you wanted it (few did, thankfully) a big lime green stripe.
The 'genuine' AMR, as a result, was an improved car over the original DB11 V12 if you wanted a more overtly sporty steer, but where the original has the latters software, the differences are much more marginal.
Interestingly the AMR's stiffer bushes weren't to everyone's taste, when they changed the name back to DB11 V12 in 2022, they kept all the AMR software, but reverted to the original more compliant subframe bushes.
AFAIK, from the point of launch in 2016 to the mid 2018 (I think MY 2018.5) rename/ update there was never mention of AMR-anything as any option in any of the road tests, press reports or options lists.
In response to the V8 engined car being judged by most journalists as the sharper tool, in 2018 AML made some changes to the V12 to sharpen it up, the marketing guys naturally took the opportunity and went as far as actually renaming the MY 2018.5 on DB11 V12 as the DB11 AMR. It was a bit an extreme move as the vast majority of the update was just new software calibration of engine, gearbox and damping to create a more exciting feeling, snappier and firmer damped car with lots of pops and bangs and a bit more power. These changes seemed to have the effect AM had hoped, the journalists raved about the 'new' car.
Obviously the move annoyed many of those who'd gone and bought a launch edition car, so AM quietly offered the entire suite of the updated cars engine, gearbox and damping calibration software as an update pack for all 2017-2018 MY owners. The car simply required a couple of hours at a dealer for the ECU reflashes. Originally they were asking around £5k, but it's now around £1k. The 'AMR pack' includes a new engine plaque with AMR printed on it. 'final inspection by AMR' whatever that means.... From what I've read, some dealers either forgot to fit the plaque, or some owners asked them not to, as not all DB11 V12 with the AMR update seem to wear the plaque.
I guess it's possible that where a customer had ordered a DB11 V12 (say in Feb 2018, just before the announcement of the release of the updated car, the factory may have just applied the AMR software, which then may be referenced somewhere, which might answer the question, though if this was the case the affected cars would likely only be MY2018.25
Hardware wise, the only changes were stiffer subframe bushes. There engine, transmission and suspension hardware were all identical between DB11 V12 and DB11 AMR. There was also a claim of a slightly (0.5mm) thicker Anti Roll Bar at one end, though I've never been able to actually verify that as part numbers appear to be the same.
The AMR did come with fantastic lightweight forged wheels, which did reduce unsprung mass and would certainly have sharpened the front end on turn in.
The rest was cosmetic, smoked rear lamps, dark chrome where before was shiny, AMR logos in the seats and some bits of carbon fibre and if you wanted it (few did, thankfully) a big lime green stripe.
The 'genuine' AMR, as a result, was an improved car over the original DB11 V12 if you wanted a more overtly sporty steer, but where the original has the latters software, the differences are much more marginal.
Interestingly the AMR's stiffer bushes weren't to everyone's taste, when they changed the name back to DB11 V12 in 2022, they kept all the AMR software, but reverted to the original more compliant subframe bushes.
There was no factory AMR upgrade on launch edition DB11’s when new.
Shortly after the AMR version of the 11 was introduced, Aston offered a power upgrade for the standard 11. This was basically an engine/ECU remap taking power up by 30 bhp to the same 630 bhp as the AMR version. As part of the upgrade modified cars also received a new AMR plaque under the bonnet.
If you have the AMR plaque your car has likely already had the power uplift!
Shortly after the AMR version of the 11 was introduced, Aston offered a power upgrade for the standard 11. This was basically an engine/ECU remap taking power up by 30 bhp to the same 630 bhp as the AMR version. As part of the upgrade modified cars also received a new AMR plaque under the bonnet.
If you have the AMR plaque your car has likely already had the power uplift!
Calinours said:
I've never heard of an 'AMR performance pack' on DB11 V12 without it being clear that it is exactly the same thing as the dealer-offered AMR upgrade.
AFAIK, from the point of launch in 2016 to the mid 2018 (I think MY 2018.5) rename/ update there was never mention of AMR-anything as any option in any of the road tests, press reports or options lists.
In response to the V8 engined car being judged by most journalists as the sharper tool, in 2018 AML made some changes to the V12 to sharpen it up, the marketing guys naturally took the opportunity and went as far as actually renaming the MY 2018.5 on DB11 V12 as the DB11 AMR. It was a bit an extreme move as the vast majority of the update was just new software calibration of engine, gearbox and damping to create a more exciting feeling, snappier and firmer damped car with lots of pops and bangs and a bit more power. These changes seemed to have the effect AM had hoped, the journalists raved about the 'new' car.
Obviously the move annoyed many of those who'd gone and bought a launch edition car, so AM quietly offered the entire suite of the updated cars engine, gearbox and damping calibration software as an update pack for all 2017-2018 MY owners. The car simply required a couple of hours at a dealer for the ECU reflashes. Originally they were asking around £5k, but it's now around £1k. The 'AMR pack' includes a new engine plaque with AMR printed on it. 'final inspection by AMR' whatever that means.... From what I've read, some dealers either forgot to fit the plaque, or some owners asked them not to, as not all DB11 V12 with the AMR update seem to wear the plaque.
I guess it's possible that where a customer had ordered a DB11 V12 (say in Feb 2018, just before the announcement of the release of the updated car, the factory may have just applied the AMR software, which then may be referenced somewhere, which might answer the question, though if this was the case the affected cars would likely only be MY2018.25
Hardware wise, the only changes were stiffer subframe bushes. There engine, transmission and suspension hardware were all identical between DB11 V12 and DB11 AMR. There was also a claim of a slightly (0.5mm) thicker Anti Roll Bar at one end, though I've never been able to actually verify that as part numbers appear to be the same.
The AMR did come with fantastic lightweight forged wheels, which did reduce unsprung mass and would certainly have sharpened the front end on turn in.
The rest was cosmetic, smoked rear lamps, dark chrome where before was shiny, AMR logos in the seats and some bits of carbon fibre and if you wanted it (few did, thankfully) a big lime green stripe.
The 'genuine' AMR, as a result, was an improved car over the original DB11 V12 if you wanted a more overtly sporty steer, but where the original has the latters software, the differences are much more marginal.
Interestingly the AMR's stiffer bushes weren't to everyone's taste, when they changed the name back to DB11 V12 in 2022, they kept all the AMR software, but reverted to the original more compliant subframe bushes.
We’ve already had this:AFAIK, from the point of launch in 2016 to the mid 2018 (I think MY 2018.5) rename/ update there was never mention of AMR-anything as any option in any of the road tests, press reports or options lists.
In response to the V8 engined car being judged by most journalists as the sharper tool, in 2018 AML made some changes to the V12 to sharpen it up, the marketing guys naturally took the opportunity and went as far as actually renaming the MY 2018.5 on DB11 V12 as the DB11 AMR. It was a bit an extreme move as the vast majority of the update was just new software calibration of engine, gearbox and damping to create a more exciting feeling, snappier and firmer damped car with lots of pops and bangs and a bit more power. These changes seemed to have the effect AM had hoped, the journalists raved about the 'new' car.
Obviously the move annoyed many of those who'd gone and bought a launch edition car, so AM quietly offered the entire suite of the updated cars engine, gearbox and damping calibration software as an update pack for all 2017-2018 MY owners. The car simply required a couple of hours at a dealer for the ECU reflashes. Originally they were asking around £5k, but it's now around £1k. The 'AMR pack' includes a new engine plaque with AMR printed on it. 'final inspection by AMR' whatever that means.... From what I've read, some dealers either forgot to fit the plaque, or some owners asked them not to, as not all DB11 V12 with the AMR update seem to wear the plaque.
I guess it's possible that where a customer had ordered a DB11 V12 (say in Feb 2018, just before the announcement of the release of the updated car, the factory may have just applied the AMR software, which then may be referenced somewhere, which might answer the question, though if this was the case the affected cars would likely only be MY2018.25
Hardware wise, the only changes were stiffer subframe bushes. There engine, transmission and suspension hardware were all identical between DB11 V12 and DB11 AMR. There was also a claim of a slightly (0.5mm) thicker Anti Roll Bar at one end, though I've never been able to actually verify that as part numbers appear to be the same.
The AMR did come with fantastic lightweight forged wheels, which did reduce unsprung mass and would certainly have sharpened the front end on turn in.
The rest was cosmetic, smoked rear lamps, dark chrome where before was shiny, AMR logos in the seats and some bits of carbon fibre and if you wanted it (few did, thankfully) a big lime green stripe.
The 'genuine' AMR, as a result, was an improved car over the original DB11 V12 if you wanted a more overtly sporty steer, but where the original has the latters software, the differences are much more marginal.
Interestingly the AMR's stiffer bushes weren't to everyone's taste, when they changed the name back to DB11 V12 in 2022, they kept all the AMR software, but reverted to the original more compliant subframe bushes.
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moveover said:
This is what we’re talking about. Given AP (ostensibly) signed off on it ex-works, what does this plaque imply regarding the AMR upgrade?
This should be the new plaque fitted when the AMR software upgrade was applied to the car (late 2018 onwards). The power upgrade was an aftermarket dealer option, unless your car is a 2019.5MY+ AMR version. As mentioned, fully verify your upgrade via your local Aston Martin dealer or A.M. customer service.Gassing Station | Aston Martin | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff