2024 model year beeping!

[Jazzert501]

Does anyone else have a speed limiter beep that you can turn off,
but it turns back on when you restart the car.
I have it on my 2024 fresh off the boat Suzuki,(Toyota).
Is it now compulsory on all EU cars?

Apparently it is........
I wonder how many accidents it's going to cause as drivers are stuck in menu's trying to turn it off?

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/103530/speed-li...

Come on the SW programmers, save me from the ultimate Brexit revenge!

[Whataguy]

It depends on how it’s been programmed, on a ford loan car recently it started up with the car menu on the infotainment screen.

It was then only a couple of presses on the screen to disable the bongs at the start of the trip. No hassle at all.

Some manufacturers link it to drive mode, so just twist the dial to individual mode and you have disabled the beeps as part of your settings.

However Toyota are awful, with the settings hidden in menus on the dash that require holding buttons down for seconds to access them.

[CG2020UK]

We had a brand new MG HS for a week on loan and honestly drove us insane.

Do think cars with rubbish UX are going to suffer in terms of sales.

[Terminator X]

For me personally it's a step too far so no new cars for me. I usually buy a new car every 2 years

TX.

[Whataguy]

I’ve heard of someone rejecting their 24 Toyota it’s so bad unfortunately, so it’s already affecting sales.

Software will be another thing to consider when buying, how quickly can the warnings be turned off.

If they worked, it wouldn’t be an issue. Lane keep assist from many manufacturers is ok now and can be left on, but speed limit assist just doesn’t really work.

[SIMON67]

Whataguy said:

I’ve heard of someone rejecting their 24 Toyota it’s so bad unfortunately, so it’s already affecting sales.

Software will be another thing to consider when buying, how quickly can the warnings be turned off.

If they worked, it wouldn’t be an issue. Lane keep assist from many manufacturers is ok now and can be left on, but speed limit assist just doesn’t really work.

Off to test a new Corolla tomorrow so will be looking at how easy it is to disable the unnecessary 'safety' systems. Worried about buying one and it then driving me insane!

[ChevronB19]

My 2018 Up GTi has a ‘speed limit alert’ - you can easily change it (not in essence by switching it off) just by raising the ‘beep’ alert through the settings menu via the steering wheel buttons to something like 120mph, and it stays in the cars memory.

[Ankh87]

Maybe don't speed?

The tone is usually low to start with, then will be louder and louder if speeding for a prolonged time.

[Fast Bug]

New cars you can't turn it off permanently, just off every time you start the car. Same with lane assist which must be the worst invention known to man, I go through roadworks on my way to work and it picks up old road markings/think lines of tar and tries to move me over when you're in a narrowed lane.

[flight147z]

ChevronB19 said:

My 2018 Up GTi has a ‘speed limit alert’ - you can easily change it (not in essence by switching it off) just by raising the ‘beep’ alert through the settings menu via the steering wheel buttons to something like 120mph, and it stays in the cars memory.

You can't do this on newer cars. It's designed to reset every time and it's based on the speed limit as read from the road/GPS by the car not an arbitrary number you have set

[flight147z]

Fast Bug said:

New cars you can't turn it off permanently, just off every time you start the car. Same with lane assist which must be the worst invention known to man, I go through roadworks on my way to work and it picks up old road markings/think lines of tar and tries to move me over when you're in a narrowed lane.

Lane assist is one of those systems that either has to be 100% reliable and work all of the time (which it doesn't) or it's pointless as you can never fully rely on it given the potential for issues

[Pica-Pica]

This is all part of the feature-by-feature progress towards autonomous cars. Another reason not to buy a post-2022 car.

My 2016 F30 has an adjustable speed limit chime (initially set to 75mph, now set at 78mph) deep in the menu. That’s fine. It also has a single press on/off speed limiter on the steering wheel, that is also fine, and useful in some speed limits. They are under my control and easily over-ridden or switched off.

The modern applications, along with Lane Keeping Assist, are a pain. I have tried a few new cars, and declined a purchase on the basis of these features.

[Sheepshanks]

flight147z said:

Fast Bug said:

New cars you can't turn it off permanently, just off every time you start the car. Same with lane assist which must be the worst invention known to man, I go through roadworks on my way to work and it picks up old road markings/think lines of tar and tries to move me over when you're in a narrowed lane.

Lane assist is one of those systems that either has to be 100% reliable and work all of the time (which it doesn't) or it's pointless as you can never fully rely on it given the potential for issues

Neighbour returned a new Skoda Kamiq and took an older Karoq without LKA as he hated it so much and was outraged about how dangerous it was - it said at times it seemed to try and rip the wheel from his hands. As it happens, one of our daughters has a Kamiq and she just turns it off - think it's just one button. I've driven it a bit and leave it on - I find it more amusing than bothersome.


I am a bit terrified that our other daughter is thinking of getting a Kona EV - pretty well all the roadtests note how bonkers it is with various things beeping, including a very sensitive eye tracking system. One YouTube test says it beeps so much you've no idea what it's warning of - which is a ridiclous safety flaw as there's suppose to be a hierachy of warnings so you don't miss important stuff.

[Whataguy]

Ankh87 said:

Maybe don't speed?

The tone is usually low to start with, then will be louder and louder if speeding for a prolonged time.

That would be fine except the problem is the technology doesn't work, so you get told off for speeding when you aren't.

Speedometers have varying accuracy, the one in my last Toyota was out by 10% on the motorway and couldn't be adjusted as I complained to Toyota.

So you either sit at 63mph just to avoid the beeps, or get blasted by them for doing an actual 70mph which is an indicated 77.

Even if you sit 10% below the speed limit, you will still get beeped at because the technology can't reliably know what the speed limit is.

I've driven many miles on the motorway with the car thinking I was still in the 20mph limit of the services.

Or it completely misses big clear signs by the road, or reads the speed of the back of vans, or side roads/etc.

[Whataguy]

Sheepshanks said:

Neighbour returned a new Skoda Kamiq and took an older Karoq without LKA as he hated it so much and was outraged about how dangerous it was - it said at times it seemed to try and rip the wheel from his hands. As it happens, one of our daughters has a Kamiq and she just turns it off - think it's just one button. I've driven it a bit and leave it on - I find it more amusing than bothersome.


I am a bit terrified that our other daughter is thinking of getting a Kona EV - pretty well all the roadtests note how bonkers it is with various things beeping, including a very sensitive eye tracking system. One YouTube test says it beeps so much you've no idea what it's warning of - which is a ridiclous safety flaw as there's suppose to be a hierachy of warnings so you don't miss important stuff.

I rejected a new Honda for the lane keep assist, it couldn't handle anything other than a wide road with clear lane markings.

On a normal road, you would move over a bit when traffic was coming towards you... the Honda system would then steer you towards a head on collision because it didn't like road edges.

[Fast Bug]

My car picked up the speed limit as 80 a while back as I was following a truck with an 80 (kmh) sticker on it. Things like that and lane assist being awful due to the state of our roads is why I think we're a lot further away from self driving cars than people think

[Janluke]

It's even on my Dmax VCross, fortunately just one proper button to turn it off on the steering wheel.

With my wife's Outback you have to access 3 different screens

[R8FUN]

The lane assist on my 14 month old Audi S3 was in danger of driving me mad until I found the button on the end of the Indicator stalk. Press & hold for three seconds & it goes away, first thing I do when I start the car.