Why are Royal Mail so bad?

Why are Royal Mail so bad?

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Slow.Patrol

Original Poster:

1,651 posts

28 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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We hardly get any mail these days. Not a problem. However my sister has today received a letter that was posted on 30th September.

And why do the NHS still rely on the post as the default method of correspondence?

Arrivalist

1,249 posts

13 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Slow.Patrol said:
We hardly get any mail these days. Not a problem. However my sister has today received a letter that was posted on 30th September.

And why do the NHS still rely on the post as the default method of correspondence?
Because they, the NHS, are possibly the most inefficient organisation out there. If your record has an email address why not just tick a box saying ‘preferred method of contact = email’.

However we all know that an all singing and dancing integrated IT system is anathema to the NHS.

Arrivalist

1,249 posts

13 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Forgot to say that RM are great where I am. Especially as 99% of my correspondence inwards is electronic smile

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

47 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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In Scotland the SNP reuse to permit e mails from the NHS because it disadvantages 10% of the population especially older patients who may not have internet access.

So as above why not opt out of e mails for those who do not have access to internet? I understand that England does allow it, but as usual the SNP have to be different to England.


It would save the NHS a lot of money, typists labour and first class stamps, the way the PO is run who cares if they lose the business. In fairness to them though you cannot expect a first and second class delivery Monday to Saturday when the income from stamps is rapidly declining. Time for a rethink on the rules for operating the mail service? One delivery a day, no Saturday no second class delivery

I have e mailed local MSP why this is so, let’s hope a question is asked at FMQ, more squirming for Swinney

Edited by Mercdriver on Wednesday 16th October 17:32

V41LEY

2,977 posts

252 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Basically RM is an analogue delivery methods in a digital world.
£1.65 to send a 1st Class letter / card.
They need to be allowed to drop universal collection and delivery which burdens them
with an army of well paid posties and thousands of vehicles.

Lo-Fi

960 posts

84 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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V41LEY said:
Basically RM is an analogue delivery methods in a digital world.
£1.65 to send a 1st Class letter / card.
They need to be allowed to drop universal collection and delivery which burdens them
with an army of well paid posties and thousands of vehicles.
"Well paid posties"? Tesco staff earn more for scanning your shopping. Maybe all posties should just man checkouts. Then see if anyone else will deliver your letter/card for less than 2 quid.

A500leroy

6,618 posts

132 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Lo-Fi said:
V41LEY said:
Basically RM is an analogue delivery methods in a digital world.
£1.65 to send a 1st Class letter / card.
They need to be allowed to drop universal collection and delivery which burdens them
with an army of well paid posties and thousands of vehicles.
"Well paid posties"? Tesco staff earn more for scanning your shopping. Maybe all posties should just man checkouts. Then see if anyone else will deliver your letter/card for less than 2 quid.
Currently between £11.5 and £12.5 p/h ( most posties are 25 hrs per week)

As to why the service is rubbish, the bosses don't replace posties when they leave so the job that's now empty gets rotated between the staff left over.

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

47 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Maybe they would have been able to pay better if they hadn’t been run by a corrupt board of directors and have to pay out huge amounts in compensation for the scandalous IT system

Roofless Toothless

6,473 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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I thought that was the Post Office?

richhead

2,368 posts

25 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Its basically an out of date model. I bet they arent even turning much profit on the high cost of a stamp now.
I cant remember when i last posted anything.

98elise

29,479 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Roofless Toothless said:
I thought that was the Post Office?
It was the Post Office, which is completely separate from Royal Mail.

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

47 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Oops, got that wrong smile how can posties pay their bills on 25 hours per week, that is taking the pi$$

119

11,206 posts

50 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Works great where we are, and even at our old house.

egor110

17,472 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Easy , during covid they cut back on deliveries and have just never started up again .

Many staff have left and not been replaced so you get 1 postman covering 2 deliveries but focusung on the tracked parcels and special deliveries and leters as and when .

Think of the money it saves the company.

Edited by egor110 on Wednesday 16th October 18:41

Mazinbrum

1,052 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Parcelforce are st too, alleged missed delivery on Monday but no card, rescheduled for today and tracking shows as parcel sat in the depot.
I dread getting a parcel delivered by them.

Sheepshanks

36,764 posts

133 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Mercdriver said:
In Scotland the SNP reuse to permit e mails from the NHS because it disadvantages 10% of the population especially older patients who may not have internet access.

So as above why not opt out of e mails for those who do not have access to internet? I understand that England does allow it, but as usual the SNP have to be different to England.


It would save the NHS a lot of money, typists labour and first class stamps, the way the PO is run who cares if they lose the business. In fairness to them though you cannot expect a first and second class delivery Monday to Saturday when the income from stamps is rapidly declining. Time for a rethink on the rules for operating the mail service? One delivery a day, no Saturday no second class delivery

I have e mailed local MSP why this is so, let’s hope a question is asked at FMQ, more squirming for Swinney
I left work about a year ago, but we were getting waves of spam from compromised NHS machines - apparently it was so bad some ISPs were blocking all NHS email. If that still happens then sending stuff by email isn’t going to be reliable.

C n C

3,788 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Arrivalist said:
Slow.Patrol said:
We hardly get any mail these days. Not a problem. However my sister has today received a letter that was posted on 30th September.

And why do the NHS still rely on the post as the default method of correspondence?
Because they, the NHS, are possibly the most inefficient organisation out there. If your record has an email address why not just tick a box saying ‘preferred method of contact = email’.

However we all know that an all singing and dancing integrated IT system is anathema to the NHS.
I haven't had a lot to do with the NHS over the past 20 years (fortunately from a health point of view), but due to recent illness have visited the GP on a couple of occasions, then referred to a consultant at the local hospital (NW London).

All correspondence has come directly to my phone via a combination text messages (for appointment reminders) and the NHS app. Whilst clearly not typical, my experience has been very impressive. I get online access to medical records, letters (including the detailed referal by the GP to the consultant), all appointment details etc...

I've also been for regular blood tests at 11:00am once every 2 weeks. The test itself (at the local hospital, which apparently doesn't have a good reputation) has happened within 5 minutes of the scheduled time, and by the time I've walked home, 50 minutes later, the detailed blood test results have been available on the app, including automated trend graphs of all the results comparing them to the previous tests.

So some parts of the NHS IT, and the service itself are working well - I guess they just need to get to the same standards across the country.

miniman

27,922 posts

276 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Slow.Patrol said:
And why do the NHS still rely on the post as the default method of correspondence?
All my NHS correspondence is via email / app. Suspect you just need to choose that option. It will never be the default because some people won’t have email and others will have shared (e.g. husband / wife) accounts where there are particular challenges with sending clinical information.

A500leroy

6,618 posts

132 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Mercdriver said:
Oops, got that wrong smile how can posties pay their bills on 25 hours per week, that is taking the pi$$
See, it's not the great job people think.

Sheepshanks

36,764 posts

133 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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C n C said:
I haven't had a lot to do with the NHS over the past 20 years (fortunately from a health point of view), but due to recent illness have visited the GP on a couple of occasions, then referred to a consultant at the local hospital (NW London).

All correspondence has come directly to my phone via a combination text messages (for appointment reminders) and the NHS app. Whilst clearly not typical, my experience has been very impressive. I get online access to medical records, letters (including the detailed referal by the GP to the consultant), all appointment details etc...

I've also been for regular blood tests at 11:00am once every 2 weeks. The test itself (at the local hospital, which apparently doesn't have a good reputation) has happened within 5 minutes of the scheduled time, and by the time I've walked home, 50 minutes later, the detailed blood test results have been available on the app, including automated trend graphs of all the results comparing them to the previous tests.

So some parts of the NHS IT, and the service itself are working well - I guess they just need to get to the same standards across the country.
We get all that as well - it’s very new though, not something that’s been going on for a while.