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Not sure if anyone on here would be in a position to advise, but I live in a home which is listed in the 'Neighnbourhood Plan' as being a 'Local Heritage Area'.
The plot is quite large and I am interested in seeking planning approval to build another home in its grounds.
Has anyone had to deal with similar and overcome what will no doubt be pushback from planners ?
The plot is quite large and I am interested in seeking planning approval to build another home in its grounds.
Has anyone had to deal with similar and overcome what will no doubt be pushback from planners ?
A "Local Heritage Area" status typically means that the property and its surroundings hold some historical or cultural value. Any planning application is likely to be scrutinised for its impact on the character and appearance of the area.
Review the Neighbourhood Plan carefully, especially sections related to conservation, heritage, and new developments. This will give you an idea of what constraints or opportunities might exist.
Before formally applying for planning permission, you can seek pre-application advice from your local planning authority. This is a valuable step to gauge initial reactions and understand specific concerns the planners may have regarding your proposal.
Given the heritage status, it would be wise to work with an architect who specialises in conservation areas or heritage sites. They will be able to design a proposal that respects the heritage of the site while meeting modern needs.
Review the Neighbourhood Plan carefully, especially sections related to conservation, heritage, and new developments. This will give you an idea of what constraints or opportunities might exist.
Before formally applying for planning permission, you can seek pre-application advice from your local planning authority. This is a valuable step to gauge initial reactions and understand specific concerns the planners may have regarding your proposal.
Given the heritage status, it would be wise to work with an architect who specialises in conservation areas or heritage sites. They will be able to design a proposal that respects the heritage of the site while meeting modern needs.
Pre application advise has no value. It is non binding so even if they say rock on it is meaningless.
Would the house be an infill plot ( ie behind ) on on th road frontage ?
Many authority's have policies against infill plots.
Read the local plan. Look at other applications on line where someone has spilt a plot. You will get a good idea.
What you are doing is not simple and you will in the end need an architect.
Find a local one and have a chat.
Bear in mind that other than knowing how to submit forms and what they have had approved in the past architects no relatively little about planning.
If it is simple for the area ( ie others have been approved and there add no policies against it ) let the architect submit. If it is at all complex then enrol a planing consultant.
Would the house be an infill plot ( ie behind ) on on th road frontage ?
Many authority's have policies against infill plots.
Read the local plan. Look at other applications on line where someone has spilt a plot. You will get a good idea.
What you are doing is not simple and you will in the end need an architect.
Find a local one and have a chat.
Bear in mind that other than knowing how to submit forms and what they have had approved in the past architects no relatively little about planning.
If it is simple for the area ( ie others have been approved and there add no policies against it ) let the architect submit. If it is at all complex then enrol a planing consultant.
I've reviewed the local plan and the whole area/plot falls within it. I've also had an initial chat with an architect who said he didn't think approval would be granted, but suggest pre application route to get a feel as to what the local council planners thought.
The local plan says developments will be encourages as long as it complies with 5 points. 4 of them are fine, but the architect feels that the one which we will struggle with is;
" reflects the general, traditional patter of the buildings and spaces in the heritage area, especially in scale and proporation, although there is some scope for modern architectural innovation provided that is reflects the existing character"
Re the proposed build, we would be happy with traditional or modern, but actually feel modern may be best suited.
The architects issue is that the properties under the plan are all built in a line in essence, and we would be looking to build something much closer to the road, and therefore not in line, albeit ours is the end plot would the impact would obviously be less that say doing it to once of the homes in the middle.
I'll post an image shortly of what I mean.
The local plan says developments will be encourages as long as it complies with 5 points. 4 of them are fine, but the architect feels that the one which we will struggle with is;
" reflects the general, traditional patter of the buildings and spaces in the heritage area, especially in scale and proporation, although there is some scope for modern architectural innovation provided that is reflects the existing character"
Re the proposed build, we would be happy with traditional or modern, but actually feel modern may be best suited.
The architects issue is that the properties under the plan are all built in a line in essence, and we would be looking to build something much closer to the road, and therefore not in line, albeit ours is the end plot would the impact would obviously be less that say doing it to once of the homes in the middle.
I'll post an image shortly of what I mean.
This is a rough plan. The black squares represent the individual houses/plots, and the grey is the road. Ours is the end right one and have highlighted our entire plot in a green boundary, with the red being the intended new build plot.
The architects issue is that all the other houses are a certain distance from the road, and our intended build would not follow that.
The triangles reflect access points to the houses. We have two, one at the front, but another around the back into a courtyard area, so the one at the front is really not used and would be suitable for the proposed new build, albeit would move it slightly.
The other point it there is a road next to our plot on the right which I haven't shown.
These are old stone houses, with many features. The plot I'm looking at sectioning out would be 50m long, by 28m at the road, obviously triangular in size.
My thoughts, being hopeful, is that sub-diving my plot would actually make it much more like the others, ie square, and would be done by introducting 15 foot conifers all the way down the garden, which would also pretty much hide the new house, as the rest of the boundary has the same, so would be well hidden.
The architects issue is that all the other houses are a certain distance from the road, and our intended build would not follow that.
The triangles reflect access points to the houses. We have two, one at the front, but another around the back into a courtyard area, so the one at the front is really not used and would be suitable for the proposed new build, albeit would move it slightly.
The other point it there is a road next to our plot on the right which I haven't shown.
These are old stone houses, with many features. The plot I'm looking at sectioning out would be 50m long, by 28m at the road, obviously triangular in size.
My thoughts, being hopeful, is that sub-diving my plot would actually make it much more like the others, ie square, and would be done by introducting 15 foot conifers all the way down the garden, which would also pretty much hide the new house, as the rest of the boundary has the same, so would be well hidden.
Edited by Hobo on Saturday 28th September 20:13
From your diagram I would think that you have little chance of getting permission to build anything in that triangle - it just doesn’t go with the rest of what you have drawn.
An alternate viewpoint is that something totally opposite may have a chance, if it is exceptional in quality and execution - eg a mirror glass inverted pyramid…
An alternate viewpoint is that something totally opposite may have a chance, if it is exceptional in quality and execution - eg a mirror glass inverted pyramid…
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