Received fine for sold car being sorned parked on the road?
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Hello
So I just received a fine for parking a car on the road which was declared sorned. I understand it's an offence to park on public roads with the car being sorned but in my defence the car was sold 2 days before the offence and the guys who bought the car from me are traders and said they would change the logbook over into their business address (which I let them as I have no clue how to do it myself). They left it on the road to get it towed back to their garage. They have since taken the car but I have been left with a steep £307 fine to pay. Is there any way to dispute this and would dvla acknowledge it? I'm only asking on here as by the time I dispute it and get a reply back from dvla themselves I may even run out of time and the fine may get higher etc so I want to avoid being fined larger amounts. I can get a receipt from the garage to show I sold the car to them if that helps? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
So I just received a fine for parking a car on the road which was declared sorned. I understand it's an offence to park on public roads with the car being sorned but in my defence the car was sold 2 days before the offence and the guys who bought the car from me are traders and said they would change the logbook over into their business address (which I let them as I have no clue how to do it myself). They left it on the road to get it towed back to their garage. They have since taken the car but I have been left with a steep £307 fine to pay. Is there any way to dispute this and would dvla acknowledge it? I'm only asking on here as by the time I dispute it and get a reply back from dvla themselves I may even run out of time and the fine may get higher etc so I want to avoid being fined larger amounts. I can get a receipt from the garage to show I sold the car to them if that helps? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Two questions.
Why did you park it on the road knowing it was on a SORN?
Surely, you should have just left it off the road until THEY came to pick it up?
Point of note (your V5 and DVLA online both tell you this) as the registered keeper, you are the person who HAS to notify DVLA of any change of ownership etc.
Why did you park it on the road knowing it was on a SORN?
Surely, you should have just left it off the road until THEY came to pick it up?
Point of note (your V5 and DVLA online both tell you this) as the registered keeper, you are the person who HAS to notify DVLA of any change of ownership etc.
E-bmw said:
Two questions.
Why did you park it on the road knowing it was on a SORN?
Surely, you should have just left it off the road until THEY came to pick it up?
Point of note (your V5 and DVLA online both tell you this) as the registered keeper, you are the person who HAS to notify DVLA of any change of ownership etc.
Only one question there , which is irrelevant to OPs question and answered in his post. Why did you park it on the road knowing it was on a SORN?
Surely, you should have just left it off the road until THEY came to pick it up?
Point of note (your V5 and DVLA online both tell you this) as the registered keeper, you are the person who HAS to notify DVLA of any change of ownership etc.
hussnainh8 said:
Hello
So I just received a fine for parking a car on the road which was declared sorned. I understand it's an offence to park on public roads with the car being sorned but in my defence the car was sold 2 days before the offence and the guys who bought the car from me are traders and said they would change the logbook over into their business address (which I let them as I have no clue how to do it myself). They left it on the road to get it towed back to their garage. They have since taken the car but I have been left with a steep £307 fine to pay. Is there any way to dispute this and would dvla acknowledge it? I'm only asking on here as by the time I dispute it and get a reply back from dvla themselves I may even run out of time and the fine may get higher etc so I want to avoid being fined larger amounts. I can get a receipt from the garage to show I sold the car to them if that helps? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Have you confirmed with the dealer that they have now transferred the V5 to themselves as trade?So I just received a fine for parking a car on the road which was declared sorned. I understand it's an offence to park on public roads with the car being sorned but in my defence the car was sold 2 days before the offence and the guys who bought the car from me are traders and said they would change the logbook over into their business address (which I let them as I have no clue how to do it myself). They left it on the road to get it towed back to their garage. They have since taken the car but I have been left with a steep £307 fine to pay. Is there any way to dispute this and would dvla acknowledge it? I'm only asking on here as by the time I dispute it and get a reply back from dvla themselves I may even run out of time and the fine may get higher etc so I want to avoid being fined larger amounts. I can get a receipt from the garage to show I sold the car to them if that helps? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
hussnainh8 said:
Hello
So I just received a fine for parking a car on the road which was declared sorned. I understand it's an offence to park on public roads with the car being sorned but in my defence the car was sold 2 days before the offence and the guys who bought the car from me are traders and said they would change the logbook over into their business address (which I let them as I have no clue how to do it myself). They left it on the road to get it towed back to their garage. They have since taken the car but I have been left with a steep £307 fine to pay. Is there any way to dispute this and would dvla acknowledge it? I'm only asking on here as by the time I dispute it and get a reply back from dvla themselves I may even run out of time and the fine may get higher etc so I want to avoid being fined larger amounts. I can get a receipt from the garage to show I sold the car to them if that helps? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Apologies if I'm missing something but it seems like So I just received a fine for parking a car on the road which was declared sorned. I understand it's an offence to park on public roads with the car being sorned but in my defence the car was sold 2 days before the offence and the guys who bought the car from me are traders and said they would change the logbook over into their business address (which I let them as I have no clue how to do it myself). They left it on the road to get it towed back to their garage. They have since taken the car but I have been left with a steep £307 fine to pay. Is there any way to dispute this and would dvla acknowledge it? I'm only asking on here as by the time I dispute it and get a reply back from dvla themselves I may even run out of time and the fine may get higher etc so I want to avoid being fined larger amounts. I can get a receipt from the garage to show I sold the car to them if that helps? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
1. You SORN'd the car but left it parked on the road.
2. You sold the car and the buyers haven't collected yet.
3. The V5 hasn't been swapped over so you've got the fine
I'm not sure the garage wil give you a receipt if it means THEY'RE the ones who are going to end up liable for the fine but good luck.
Am I missing something here? If they were the owner at the time of the offence it should be their problem?
If you get a receipt from the buyer with a date on it surely that would be sufficient to show it wasn’t yours at the time? Road tax is due the moment it becomes yours if you buy a car.
You can do the ownership transfer electronically on the DVLA web site. If you flog the car at 10:30am and it goes through a speed camera at 10:45am shouldn’t be your problem.
If you get a receipt from the buyer with a date on it surely that would be sufficient to show it wasn’t yours at the time? Road tax is due the moment it becomes yours if you buy a car.
You can do the ownership transfer electronically on the DVLA web site. If you flog the car at 10:30am and it goes through a speed camera at 10:45am shouldn’t be your problem.
nute said:
Am I missing something here? If they were the owner at the time of the offence it should be their problem?
If you get a receipt from the buyer with a date on it surely that would be sufficient to show it wasn’t yours at the time? Road tax is due the moment it becomes yours if you buy a car.
You can do the ownership transfer electronically on the DVLA web site. If you flog the car at 10:30am and it goes through a speed camera at 10:45am shouldn’t be your problem.
It's not the owner who gets fined, it's the keeper.If you get a receipt from the buyer with a date on it surely that would be sufficient to show it wasn’t yours at the time? Road tax is due the moment it becomes yours if you buy a car.
You can do the ownership transfer electronically on the DVLA web site. If you flog the car at 10:30am and it goes through a speed camera at 10:45am shouldn’t be your problem.
The OP failed to notify change of keeper, so he was still keeper as far as DVLC are concerned.
He kept it on the road when it was SORNed.
Bang to rights really.
The date you pay for something and get a receipt for your cash is not necessarily the date you become keeper or owner.
Did the OP tell the trader he was parking the car on the road? The trader might reasonably have expected him to leave it off the road until collected, as it would only be covered by the trader's insurance etc when on trade plates.
Anyone buying a car and picking it up later should be careful about this sort of thing, make sure the seller is going to leave it off the road until you tax and insure it. If you do the change of keeper online, you should really tax or SORN it same day.
Placing a vehicle o nthe highway is a serious business.
Was it insured while parked on the highway?
SORN becomes void and needs to be renewed by the new owner when changing owner/keeper however you, the seller, do need to inform the DVLA immediately.
If the car was sold two days before the ticket was issued and you notified the DVLA then it wasn't SORNed, just untaxed. The trade has no requirement to SORN a vehicle if it's not going to be a permanent acquisition.
If the car was sold two days before the ticket was issued and you notified the DVLA then it wasn't SORNed, just untaxed. The trade has no requirement to SORN a vehicle if it's not going to be a permanent acquisition.
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