Neighbours needing to access my land for their repairs
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Good afternoon.
My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked, that their builders will need access to my property to retile their garage roof.
I'm happy to allow this but would like some legal protection. Having googled it seems that a s9 party wall agreement might be appropriate. Can anyone confirm this or advise of anything else I can do to protect my interests?
Many Thanks,
Smoggy
My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked, that their builders will need access to my property to retile their garage roof.
I'm happy to allow this but would like some legal protection. Having googled it seems that a s9 party wall agreement might be appropriate. Can anyone confirm this or advise of anything else I can do to protect my interests?
Many Thanks,
Smoggy
TBH, it's a cost of buying a place which butts up to neighbours' buildings.
Lots of stuff on line aboutr the 'access to neighbouring land' act.
If the roof needs fixing and that can't be done wihout access, they are entitled to a level of access.
What you want to put in place may be depend on the level of damage that's likely.
What's next to the garage on your land? I fit's a manicured lawn and lots of expensive plants, you need more protection in place than if it's just a rustic parking space.
There are firms of 'party wall surveyors' who specialise.
You could talk to your insurance company?
I once had to put the leg of a scaffold in someone else's back yard, it cost me a hundred quid for before and after photos and a case of plonk for the tenant.
Lots of stuff on line aboutr the 'access to neighbouring land' act.
If the roof needs fixing and that can't be done wihout access, they are entitled to a level of access.
What you want to put in place may be depend on the level of damage that's likely.
What's next to the garage on your land? I fit's a manicured lawn and lots of expensive plants, you need more protection in place than if it's just a rustic parking space.
There are firms of 'party wall surveyors' who specialise.
You could talk to your insurance company?
I once had to put the leg of a scaffold in someone else's back yard, it cost me a hundred quid for before and after photos and a case of plonk for the tenant.
Nothing to do with party walls.
Access to neighbouring land act
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/23/conte...
Access to neighbouring land act
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/23/conte...
My neighbour wanted to fix the gutter of his garage that is only accessible from my side. I said yes, crack on. He came round next day, did the job.
On another occasion, we collaboratively repaired our fence between our 2 gardens.
I'm not sure what interests need protecting if your neighbour wants to fix their roof. Do you have expensive/precious plants in the area needing access?
On another occasion, we collaboratively repaired our fence between our 2 gardens.
I'm not sure what interests need protecting if your neighbour wants to fix their roof. Do you have expensive/precious plants in the area needing access?
Smoggy XJR said:
Good afternoon.
My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked, that their builders will need access to my property to retile their garage roof.
I'm happy to allow this but would like some legal protection. Having googled it seems that a s9 party wall agreement might be appropriate. Can anyone confirm this or advise of anything else I can do to protect my interests?
Many Thanks,
Smoggy
Talk about over-thinking things!My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked, that their builders will need access to my property to retile their garage roof.
I'm happy to allow this but would like some legal protection. Having googled it seems that a s9 party wall agreement might be appropriate. Can anyone confirm this or advise of anything else I can do to protect my interests?
Many Thanks,
Smoggy
Have you ever tried talking adult-to-adult with your neighbour?
You can share concerns, talk about possible issues & resolve them, you don't generally need legal agreements in place prior to things like this.
It works wonders.
I have neighbours on both sides, when things need doing on/adjacent to the boundaries we talk about it & get the job done, inevitably someone ends up with a bottle of wine/4-pack of beer and all is well in the world.
We are detached, but due to extensions, any scaffold on one side by use or the neighbour will fall on the others land, similarly if doing big landscaping, drives etc., access might be restricted for a while.
We just talk about it, hand over bottles/flowers/chocs etc. on completion, as we both need to do this from time to time, never any stress.
Unless your neighbour is the type from a few doors further up that leans on the horn while a hiab is offloading or a grab picking up, whether it’s a householder or utilities job, in which case play hardball.
We just talk about it, hand over bottles/flowers/chocs etc. on completion, as we both need to do this from time to time, never any stress.
Unless your neighbour is the type from a few doors further up that leans on the horn while a hiab is offloading or a grab picking up, whether it’s a householder or utilities job, in which case play hardball.
Smoggy XJR said:
Good afternoon.
My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked, that their builders will need access to my property to retile their garage roof.
I'm happy to allow this but would like some legal protection. Having googled it seems that a s9 party wall agreement might be appropriate. Can anyone confirm this or advise of anything else I can do to protect my interests?
Many Thanks,
Smoggy
They have right to access to make repairs to the property. My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked, that their builders will need access to my property to retile their garage roof.
I'm happy to allow this but would like some legal protection. Having googled it seems that a s9 party wall agreement might be appropriate. Can anyone confirm this or advise of anything else I can do to protect my interests?
Many Thanks,
Smoggy
Take photos of anything that might be damaged (including the route to carry the scaffold on site).
Ask to see builder's liability insurance certificate (depends if you think it's a cowboy job).
DP14 said:
dundarach said:
Why wouldn't you say "Yes no bother, shall I make you a brew?"
Because cheerily complying with a narcissistic or entitled neighbour's behaviour will further encourage itSmoggy XJR said:
My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked...
xx99xx said:
My neighbour wanted to fix the gutter of his garage that is only accessible from my side. I said yes, crack on. He came round next day, did the job.
On another occasion, we collaboratively repaired our fence between our 2 gardens.
I'm not sure what interests need protecting if your neighbour wants to fix their roof. Do you have expensive/precious plants in the area needing access?
I had a situation where my neighbour (the one I get on with) was having some work done. He doesn't have access to one side of his house unless he uses my footpath (for the scaffolding). I agreed and politely suggested that they keep it tidy etc, etc. It went on for longer than planned (issues with building and then the builder) and that side of my house [the footpath] got trashed, and then when it was eventually over, I was left with a smashed up bit of fence (behind their hedge/screen) and my once lovely slate (chippings) ended up looking like hardcore. Part Two of the access he needed, I denied until an agreement to fix the previous was made. He's alright, but took the absolute piss by not sorting it out beforehand. On another occasion, we collaboratively repaired our fence between our 2 gardens.
I'm not sure what interests need protecting if your neighbour wants to fix their roof. Do you have expensive/precious plants in the area needing access?
Now he knows how to handle matters when it comes to asking for such cooperation.
To be honest we have absolutely no idea what the neighbour is like.
I have great neighbours now but have had crap ones in the past who take all the time. With the latter, when they say ‘I’m coming on your land’ it’s a piss take and not a neighbourly action. If a good neighbour said exactly the same thing (although they probably wouldn’t) you know it’s more a request due to past experience.
So the OP may or may not have a valid point, depending on the type of neighbour he has and the track record of their relationship.
I have great neighbours now but have had crap ones in the past who take all the time. With the latter, when they say ‘I’m coming on your land’ it’s a piss take and not a neighbourly action. If a good neighbour said exactly the same thing (although they probably wouldn’t) you know it’s more a request due to past experience.
So the OP may or may not have a valid point, depending on the type of neighbour he has and the track record of their relationship.
Arrivalist said:
To be honest we have absolutely no idea what the neighbour is like.
I have great neighbours now but have had crap ones in the past who take all the time. With the latter, when they say ‘I’m coming on your land’ it’s a piss take and not a neighbourly action. If a good neighbour said exactly the same thing (although they probably wouldn’t) you know it’s more a request due to past experience.
So the OP may or may not have a valid point, depending on the type of neighbour he has and the track record of their relationship.
Absolutely.I have great neighbours now but have had crap ones in the past who take all the time. With the latter, when they say ‘I’m coming on your land’ it’s a piss take and not a neighbourly action. If a good neighbour said exactly the same thing (although they probably wouldn’t) you know it’s more a request due to past experience.
So the OP may or may not have a valid point, depending on the type of neighbour he has and the track record of their relationship.
Perhaps the OP could clarify whether he has reason to think the neighbours may be difficult to deal with or is he just being cautious ?
Let's face it, problems with neighbours (and builders) are not uncommon.
E-bmw said:
DP14 said:
dundarach said:
Why wouldn't you say "Yes no bother, shall I make you a brew?"
Because cheerily complying with a narcissistic or entitled neighbour's behaviour will further encourage itSmoggy XJR said:
My neighbours have just told me, note, told, not asked...
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