RE: 2024 Porsche Panamera | UK Review

RE: 2024 Porsche Panamera | UK Review

Tuesday 24th September

2024 Porsche Panamera | UK Review

The V6 always felt like a lesser sibling in the Panamera lineup - not any longer


The new Porsche Panamera (the non-hybrid, rear-drive V6 goes without any suffix at all) is probably going to be rarer in Britain than a GT3 RS. Maybe an S/T, even. Think about it. Those who want a practical Porsche overwhelmingly favour the Cayenne, for starters. Those who want a fastback-y saloon may well be tempted by the additional performance, lower running costs and - dare we say it - cooler image of the all-electric Taycan. Get to even the rest of the Panamera range and there’s no avoiding the sensible appeal of the hybrids and the sexier charms of the V8 GTS. The majority of V6 buyers will probably go for the all-wheel-drive 4, because people will seemingly go for double the driven wheels when there’s no real need to. That’s how rare it’ll be. Porsche should have charged more and called this the Panamera T to boost awareness. 

Despite the fact that the ready-salted Panamera looks set to be a bit-part player in the range, it turns out to be more recommendable than ever. Partly through the extensive revisions undertaken for every model in this generation, though there are some traits specific to this car. And the 2.9 twin-turbo V6 is actually now one of them. It’s not an engine transformed - definitely not as exciting as a similarly configured Giulia Quadrifoglio or as inherently charming as the 4.0-litre V8 found further up the range - though it is usefully improved. No longer does the engine feel like a weak link in the package, or the variant give the impression of being a lesser option. 

Torque is the thing, as is always the way when easy-access performance is concerned. While 332lb ft to 369lb ft doesn’t look a huge gain, it’s more than 10 per cent improved. And as everything around gets heavier, so 1,885kg for a car this large looks eminently reasonable. It’s only 60kg more than an M440i xDrive, for example, which makes the same 369lb ft from its turbo six. And that’s more than fast enough. With the additional torque still made across a wide band of revs, from little more than idle to almost the power peak, it means this feels that useful little bit stronger all the time. You still wouldn’t call it a thrilling V6, pulling in a linear fashion from just 2,000rpm around to almost seven, but it gets the job done in a more convincing fashion now. And if more insulation is a demerit for the thunderous V8, suppressing the thin shriek of before to a muted growl this time around feels like no bad thing. 

Plus, of course, the rest of the Porsche package helps make the most of the enhanced engine. The PDK shifts are rapid in any mode, and short early ratios assist the feeling of sprightliness. Where a non-hybrid V6 Panamera could once frustrate with its lethargy, this one always feels much more on the ball. A smidge over 350hp once up in the revs aids that impression, too. And get this: with a 90-litre fuel tank as standard, this car was showing a predicted range of 730 miles on start up. 730! Take that, Taycan. 

Some (us included) might have scoffed when Porsche suggested that this facelift warranted an entirely new internal model designation. The first, odd-looking Panamera was the G1, then the G2 came in 2016, and now this is a G3. Even if it initially seemed like a reasonably mild update. But it doesn’t take long behind the wheel to grasp that this is more than the average overhaul. Rather like the Cayenne, bar a couple of subjective areas the Panamera is just sort of better. Everywhere. 

The increased bandwidth of the new dual-chamber air suspension really was more than just a marketing boast. Of course this Panamera cruises with aplomb - they always have. The real benefits seem to be in cornering, the new setup cutting down on pitch, heave and roll without ever feeling artificial or augmented; it simply means the Panamera corners like a smaller, lighter car, still with familiar sensations, albeit reduced from what your brain expects. Going without the Active Ride Control that requires the plug-in cars’ 400v system doesn’t feel like a great loss, this V6 poised, precise and actually good fun to hustle as well. Chiefly because it’s all so unexpected, even when set against previous (very good) Panameras. 

Porsche puts all the tools at the driver’s disposal to take full advantage. Still the brake pedals of its ICE cars are useful better than its electrified models (and any similarly configured rivals), the seat goes to the floor, the wheel to your chest, and the steering remains the standard by which all others are judged. And still fall a bit short. Gratifying cars don’t have to fizz with feedback or scream through every gear; there’s real satisfaction to take from baked-in cohesion and sweating the small stuff. 

Indeed, being wrapped up in the driving experience of the V6 Panamera come good is a useful distraction from the interior. This one was specced with some lovely leather and expensive-looking metal trim, though a few little details were less impressive. The ventilation panel that flexes still feels a bit odd to use, phone storage in the centre is nice but the lid feels a bit cheap, and the digital driver’s screen is less special than the old dash. Plenty is very good, including the space and the screen responsiveness and the (optional) steering wheel, though this isn’t quite perfect. Shame to lose the gear selector, too, though Porsche is hardly alone in this. Most will deem a wireless charging tray of more use. 

Similarly, while the exterior update has probably made the Panamera a more distinctive Porsche to look at, the jury remains out on whether it’s actually a more stylish one. The front now seems dominated by grilles and vents (the opening above the numberplate is especially odd) and to these eyes the headlights are fussier. They aren’t egregious changes, just undesirable ones. Probably there are a host of lighting, cooling and aerodynamic benefits that can be pointed to with the update, but that’s the conclusion for now. 

Still, apart from perhaps the odd Turbo Sport Turismo, a Porsche Panamera tends to be bought not because of its looks but because it’s the most complete sports saloon package available (at a price). That remains the case here, and perhaps for the first time the verdict extends to the V6 as well. This is PH, so the V8 will always be preferable if at all possible, though without an S in range (as there is for the Cayenne), to get the 4.0-litre means jumping from an £82,500 Panamera, past the plug-in V6s, to the £125k GTS. And 50 per cent more is a significant leap for anyone's wallet. 

Moreover, for the first time, it would be the undeniable allure of the V8 pulling you into that version's orbit rather than the familiar instinct to just avoid the V6. It’s hard to imagine an all-wheel-drive or hybridised model offering up a significantly improved Panamera experience, either, notwithstanding the potential incentives of a PHEV. So there we have it, folks; after 15 years, the V6 might actually now be all the Panamera you’ll ever need.     


SPECIFICATION | 2024 PORSCHE PANAMERA

Engine: 2,894cc twin-turbo V6
Transmission: 8-speed dual-clutch PDK, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 353@5,400-6,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 369@1,900-4,800rpm
0-62mph: 5.1 seconds (4.8 with Sport Chrono)
Top speed: 169 mph
Weight: 1,885kg (DIN)
MPG: 26.9 (WLTP)
CO2: 239 g/km (WLTP)
Price: £82,500 (price as standard; price as tested £104,256 (!) comprising Gentian Blue Metallic for £1,704, 20-inch Panamera Design wheels for £2,219, Two-tone leather interior in Darknightblue and Chalk Beige, smooth finish leather for £3,692, Front comfort seats (14-way, electric), with memory package for £1,125, 4+1 seats for £719, ISOFIX mounting on front seats for £155, Side window trims in high gloss black for £314, Electrically extending towbar system for £1,191, Model designation on doors black for £227, Sports Chrono package for £1,371, HD Matrix LED headlights for £2,022, Heated GT Sports steering wheel for £467, Porsche InnoDrive with Active Lane Keeping for £2,327, Lane Change Assist for £740, Four-zone auto climate control for £960, Passenger display for £1,289, Bose Surround Sound System for £1,223)

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el romeral

Original Poster:

1,170 posts

142 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Good work Porsche. This looks like the kind of car which, people who can afford it, would want. Good all rounder and amazingly, no privacy glass or black wheels either. Terrible price with extras though!

sutts

917 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th September
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The opening above the number plate reminds me of the 968.

LimaDelta

6,831 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Why do they never show the back seats? Surely by definition anyone considering this over a 2 seater or 2+2 needs the rear space, so why not show it?

sidesauce

2,635 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th September
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This car needs privacy glass - the rear end of the glasshouse is messy and darkening it helps clean it up.

T1berious

2,345 posts

160 months

Tuesday 24th September
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LimaDelta said:
Why do they never show the back seats? Surely by definition anyone considering this over a 2 seater or 2+2 needs the rear space, so why not show it?
^This^

I actually went through a second time looking for shots of the rear seats!

SDK

1,089 posts

258 months

Tuesday 24th September
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el romeral said:
Good work Porsche. This looks like the kind of car which, people who can afford it, would want. Good all rounder and amazingly, no privacy glass or black wheels either. Terrible price with extras though!
CO2: 239 g/km - this makes it much less affordable : 37% BIK tax spin

andy43

10,212 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th September
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T1berious said:
LimaDelta said:
Why do they never show the back seats? Surely by definition anyone considering this over a 2 seater or 2+2 needs the rear space, so why not show it?
^This^

I actually went through a second time looking for shots of the rear seats!
You could take one of the engines out and put seats in there?

cerb4.5lee

32,652 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th September
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It is easy to forget that the Panamera exists now that the Taycan is so commonplace I reckon. The Panamera never seemed to be a big seller anyway, in the UK at least. I guess that the Cayenne took a lot of sales away of this though.

leglessAlex

5,654 posts

146 months

Tuesday 24th September
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That’s a punchy price with all the extras, ooft.

And I guess that’s the point made early in the article, why would you buy this when the V8 is available? It’s obviously a very good car, but is it really better at anything, even economy? I would imagine that even the V8 is pretty frugal when cruising.

Personally, I’d love a V8 Sport Turismo version in a good colour, silver wheels and no tints. I feel like when I say that people just roll their eyes and assume I’m parroting the Chris Harris line of thinking but it’s honestly what I’ve always preferred! hehe

cerb4.5lee

32,652 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th September
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el romeral said:
Terrible price with extras though!
That is exactly why we haven't bought a Porsche up to yet as well. They're bare bones spec as standard in comparison to what we've been used to, and obviously to make them desirable in terms of spec, you have to empty your wallet or purse really. Porsche have one of the best business models in the game I reckon in that regard.

Dale487

1,368 posts

128 months

Tuesday 24th September
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andy43 said:
T1berious said:
LimaDelta said:
Why do they never show the back seats? Surely by definition anyone considering this over a 2 seater or 2+2 needs the rear space, so why not show it?
^This^

I actually went through a second time looking for shots of the rear seats!
You could take one of the engines out and put seats in there?
Is that a spot the difference?

Twoshoe

890 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th September
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'ISOFIX mounting on front seats for £155'

So your toddler can drive it?

ducnick

1,893 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Presumably there’s a V6 somewhere under that engine cover…. Removing and reinstalling all the plastics probably adds an hour to the standard servicing.

peterfield781

103 posts

4 months

Tuesday 24th September
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I like it but the only thing that would stop me from buying one would be the horrendous depreciation. Still. Will be vastly less than the Taycan or any other EV.

yme402

439 posts

107 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Lovely car.
The lack of privacy glass and silly sized black wheels give it style and good taste that seems to be missing from most cars these days.

robemcdonald

9,073 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th September
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T1berious said:
LimaDelta said:
Why do they never show the back seats? Surely by definition anyone considering this over a 2 seater or 2+2 needs the rear space, so why not show it?
^This^

I actually went through a second time looking for shots of the rear seats!
Me too

Taz73

212 posts

17 months

Tuesday 24th September
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I quite like this except the price with extras, standard price is way beyond my means anyway, but "Model designation on doors black for £227" I can't even see that badge? In the pictures, so how worth £227 is that?

bigyoungdave

112 posts

32 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Nice car. But at that price it does make an M340 look good value (or an M3 or an alpina B3). Personally, I'd take a B3 touring but it's nice to see Porsche making this, and probs has all the performance you need in the real world

cerb4.5lee

32,652 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Twoshoe said:
'ISOFIX mounting on front seats for £155'

So your toddler can drive it?
We used to put our first born in the front seat with the isofix in the E90 330d years back, but I believe the isofix was standard in comparison to this though.

I'm surprised that Porsches come with the wheels and a steering wheel as standard to be fair! hehe The robbing so and so's!

Quhet

2,484 posts

151 months

Tuesday 24th September
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cerb4.5lee said:
It is easy to forget that the Panamera exists now that the Taycan is so commonplace I reckon. The Panamera never seemed to be a big seller anyway, in the UK at least. I guess that the Cayenne took a lot of sales away of this though.
I genuinely didn't think they still made the Panamera. Can't remember the last time I saw one tbh