RE: Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 PDK | Spotted

RE: Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 PDK | Spotted

Friday 20th September

Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 PDK | Spotted

No more new GT4s is a shame - plenty of lovely used ones makes it easier


It’s almost a decade now since the first Porsche Cayman GT4 was shown to the world - yes, really. The excitement of February 2015 remains all too easy to recount as well, because it seemed unbelievable right until the press release landed. A Cayman was going to get a 911 engine, some GT3 suspension bits, a six-speed manual… and look the absolute business doing so. It seemed to have been more than worth the wait, especially at £64,451. 

Then we all know what happened. The GT4 was worth the wait, just as good to drive as hoped for given the spec, and Planet Porsche went a bit mad for a while. The 981 wasn’t made for very long, crazy overs were asked, and we still live in a world where £60k is needed to get into a GT4. Seminal car for a whole host of reasons. You have to wonder if the GT3 would have got its manual back if the ‘4 hadn’t been quite so well received. 

Whatever, that’s not the GT4 we’re talking about today, instead the follow-up 718 that arrived in 2019. Having experienced such wild demand, there was no way Porsche wasn’t going to replace the Cayman GT4. And though it could never have the impact of the original for a few reasons, the 718 boasted some useful improvements over its predecessor: more power and torque, extra downforce, quicker lap times (including a 12-second advantage around the Nordschleife) plus a chiselled new look. It had always seemed like the 981 GT4 was beyond much meaningful improvement, then Porsche did what it tends to do and made the brilliant even better still. Less appealing sound aside, it was hard to suggest the 718 wasn’t yet another step on from the 981. 

With that era now wrapped up also, including the truly unforgettable RS 718s - and definitely not returning this time around - it seemed a good opportunity to see what the world of secondhand GT4s is doing. Certainly it seems a bit less frenzied than it once was, and those going for a 718 will have more choice with the longer production run and a greater number of cars made: more than 60 come up on PH right now, as opposed to 20 or so 981s. 

They all look pretty great, really, because they’re GT4s, from early 2019 manual cars to PTS RSes crammed full of Weissach roll cages. This one stood out in Shark Blue, the 992 GT3 launch colour that’s made it to a few 718s and looks just as smart on the mid-engined car. It’s a great spec for those buying with track days in mind, boasting the PDK dual-clutch, PCCB ceramic brakes, the Clubsport cage, bucket seats with harnesses, loadsa Race-Tex and just the right amount of contrast stitching to make you even faster. Probably. Or at least look good doing it: yellow embroidery and door pulls that match the brake calipers really is a very strong 718 look. 

This one is showing 6,383 miles currently, so pretty modest use for a couple of years driving. You might argue it looks even fresher than that; even with the circuit-focused spec, it’s hard to imagine many miles on track days given the condition. Probably those who know more about these cars will point to additional options it should have, though from here it looks very well stocked for whatever adventures the next owner has lined up. And there should be plenty, as that was always the joy of a GT4: it improved any and every drive. The asking price is £83,950, around the middle ground for 718s with the very final ones near £100k and the earliest private examples at £65,000. Nobody will go far wrong with any of them, of course, because the GT4 was one of Porsche’s modern greats, but you wouldn’t be alone in finding Shark Blue and all the goodies very attractive indeed.  


SPECIFICATION | PORSCHE 718 CAYMAN GT4

Engine: 3,995cc, flat-six
Transmission: 7-speed PDK dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 420@7,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 317@5,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.9 secs
Top speed: 188mph
MPG: 26.4 (WLTP)
CO2: 242g/km (WLTP)
Year registered: 2022
Recorded mileage: 6,383
Price new: £75,780 (before options)
Yours for: £83,950

See the original advert here

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CrippsCorner

Original Poster:

2,938 posts

186 months

Friday 20th September
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Fantastic car, love the GT4. Though I'd take mine in the older style (prefer the exhaust setup) and manual please...

Twinair

711 posts

147 months

Friday 20th September
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Had 2, manual, buckets, carbons, clubsport…

I’d go again, pdk, sports seats, steel brakes…

Infact - I’ve just gone, boxster 25, I think this is a great road car…

GT4’s are nice though… do it!

bobj42

47 posts

16 months

Friday 20th September
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Like the colour, but this isn't the pick of the range for me.

For road driving I'd take the 718 Spyder which has the GT4 engine but no roof for the noise of that engine and wind in your hair, and for track I'd take the GT4 RS.

The Spyder RS seems to be the really odd pick, because its too much for the road and therefore probably not as much fun and probably too stiff for uk roads too. On the other hand it doesn't have a roof for the rollover protection you'd want for the track. Most of the ones in the UK seem to be in collections or up for sale with next to no miles on them.

Quickmoose

4,645 posts

128 months

Friday 20th September
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I'd join Bob and Cripps together and get the 981 Spyder.
In fact I did..... and a large factor in that was driving a friends' 981 GT4... beautiful beautiful thing.
And both soft and hard tops were made in fewer numbers than 718...

TheOctaneAddict

834 posts

52 months

Friday 20th September
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Lovely, would make an ideal step up from my 2.7 981.

Scottie - NW

1,317 posts

238 months

Friday 20th September
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I have no doubt they may be great to drive, but to my eyes it looks like a Porsche Max Power edition, and that is not a good thing!

Generally I really like the looks of Porsches and like the designs.





nismo48

4,240 posts

212 months

Friday 20th September
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If I had the available funds and the wife's "permission" I reckon that would fit nicely in my garagesmile

nammynake

2,606 posts

178 months

Friday 20th September
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As a recent new owner of a 718 manual GT4, I can confirm they are brilliant. Sound is a bit rubbish but still feels like a proper ‘event’ to drive. Considering popping to the Motorist cafe tomorrow for Porsche day.

bobj42

47 posts

16 months

Friday 20th September
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nammynake said:
As a recent new owner of a 718 manual GT4, I can confirm they are brilliant. Sound is a bit rubbish but still feels like a proper ‘event’ to drive. Considering popping to the Motorist cafe tomorrow for Porsche day.
First person I've heard say the GT4 sounds a bit rubbish, but each to their own.

A few journos have said that the GT4 RS is too loud inside for a road car and becomes tiresome quite quickly.

Edited by bobj42 on Friday 20th September 17:12

boozyjay

179 posts

71 months

Friday 20th September
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I used to own a manual GTS 4.0. An amazing car, but let let down by the long gearing.

T1berious

2,345 posts

160 months

Friday 20th September
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Scottie - NW said:
I have no doubt they may be great to drive, but to my eyes it looks like a Porsche Max Power edition, and that is not a good thing!

Generally I really like the looks of Porsches and like the designs.
Cayman GTS 4.0 is this way.....

Scottie - NW

1,317 posts

238 months

Friday 20th September
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T1berious said:
Scottie - NW said:
I have no doubt they may be great to drive, but to my eyes it looks like a Porsche Max Power edition, and that is not a good thing!

Generally I really like the looks of Porsches and like the designs.
Cayman GTS 4.0 is this way.....
Much better!! Just looked at them now. The GTS is a really subtle design that would be my choice, do they drive similarly? It's nice to have options.



Its Just Adz

14,760 posts

214 months

Friday 20th September
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I have never driven one of these, but I really really really want one.
They just look so right.
Prices seem to have held firm too.

GreatScott2016

1,388 posts

93 months

Friday 20th September
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nammynake said:
As a recent new owner of a 718 manual GT4, I can confirm they are brilliant. Sound is a bit rubbish but still feels like a proper ‘event’ to drive. Considering popping to the Motorist cafe tomorrow for Porsche day.
I’ve never driven one, but I have to agree that the “sound” is pretty disappointing. I’m sure they come alive though when pushed smile

nammynake

2,606 posts

178 months

Friday 20th September
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bobj42 said:
First person I've heard say the GT4 sounds a bit rubbish, but each to their own.

A few journos have said that the GT4 RS is too loud inside for a road car and becomes tiresome quite quickly.

Edited by bobj42 on Friday 20th September 17:12
Really? It’s one of the most common criticisms. Sounds good in the upper rev range but stifled by the GPFs. I may switch the exhaust in time but it’s a costly upgrade.

R33FAL

566 posts

173 months

Friday 20th September
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just in the process of swapping my 981 GT4 to a Spyder RS. The GT4 was absolutely brilliant- a proper "skunk-works" car. Hopefully the Spyder RS lives up to the legacy- at least the glowing reviews seem to suggest so! biggrin

Its Just Adz

14,760 posts

214 months

Friday 20th September
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R33FAL said:
just in the process of swapping my 981 GT4 to a Spyder RS. The GT4 was absolutely brilliant- a proper "skunk-works" car. Hopefully the Spyder RS lives up to the legacy- at least the glowing reviews seem to suggest so! biggrin
I was looking around a Spyder RS in Porsche Preston a few weeks ago, amazing piece of kit!
I hope you enjoy and please post some photos of it.

AKjr

482 posts

16 months

Friday 20th September
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What a great looking thing, and no doubt tremendous to drive, too! Alas I have only ever driven a boggo Cayman, even that was great.

Cool car.

T1berious

2,345 posts

160 months

Friday 20th September
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Scottie - NW said:
T1berious said:
Scottie - NW said:
I have no doubt they may be great to drive, but to my eyes it looks like a Porsche Max Power edition, and that is not a good thing!

Generally I really like the looks of Porsches and like the designs.
Cayman GTS 4.0 is this way.....
Much better!! Just looked at them now. The GTS is a really subtle design that would be my choice, do they drive similarly? It's nice to have options.
I think (?) the front suspension setup is different but apart from that (spoilers aside) it's exactly the same power train (taken back 20bhp) but as I understand it, that was just with software.

Carfection / Henry Catchpole did a really good video and described the differences.



mario64

131 posts

177 months

Friday 20th September
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I have a GT4 PDK and I think it's mostly brilliant.

I know it's pitched as a road-legal track-car, but I think it's more a sporty-grand-tourer. It's comfy and relaxed on a long motorway cruise then comes alive when you wring it out on a twisty road. You have to get the revs up to get the most out of it - the car really wakes up above 4k rpm. At full tilt down a narrow, quiet, road it is an electrifying and utterly absorbing experience.

There's been a lot said about long gear ratios but in reality it's a non-issue. Your favourite third and fourth gear B-roads are now second and third gear B-roads. That's it. Once you adjust the gearing is just fine. Second gear (in the dry) is much more usable than in other powerful RWD cars. The PDK gearbox has slightly shorter 1-6 gearing than the manual and a long seventh.

I'm not completely convinced by the sound. It has a nice induction noise at part throttle and howls away at high revs, but at lower revs it sounds a bit like a washing machine and I always wonder if it's broken. My last grand-tourer was a Maserati Gransport so perhaps I've been aurally spoilt!

In the wet it's a somewhat scarier experience. I suspect much of the twitchiness is down to the tyres. Mine has a pretty worn set of the original Dunlop Maxx Race 2 tyres. In the dry they are great so I'm torn as to whether I replace them with the same again or go for something more sensible like Michelin Pilot Sports.

Pics from my last run round the NC500 a few weeks ago: