RE: Shed of the Week | Saab 9-5 2.3T

RE: Shed of the Week | Saab 9-5 2.3T

Friday 20th September

Saab 9-5 2.3T | Shed of the Week

Really big, really cheap, reasonably nice - what more could you want from a Shed-spec Saab?


Long-term readers may recall that Shed has two children. Potting, his estranged son, is thought to be experimenting in hydroponics somewhere in the Reading area. Shed is still in touch with his daughter, Garden. She’s got a good job in education and a littl'un just starting at big school. Like most people below the age of 65 in the UK she’s struggling to get by, so Shed helps her out on the transport front by giving her the odd car from his yard, some odder than others.

His last contribution, a Skoda Octavia Scout, conked out spectacularly in many very expensive ways ten minutes after he gave it to her. Mortified by guilt, Shed is presently trying to find a replacement vehicle that won’t cost him a fortune to buy or cost her a fortune to run. Anyone fishing in the murky sub-£2k pool knows that cars tend to fall into one or the other of these categories but rarely both at the same. Shed realises that a Nissan Note will tick both boxes reasonably well but he also knows that this is a desperation choice. Far better, surely (he thinks) to go for something that might only tick one box but that will be infinitely more exciting to drive than a Note, the modern-day equivalent of the motoring cockroach known as the Toyota Corolla. 

Something, you might say, like this week’s Shed, a Saab 9-5 2.3T Vector Sport Estate. The price is right at £1,395 but the running costs box isn’t ticked. Average fuel consumption won’t be brilliant at 27mpg but the main elephant in the room for 2024 drivers is, as usual, vehicle tax. If this car had been registered seven months earlier, its vehicle tax would have been £415 instead of the £710 Shed thinks it is. Hopefully, he’s got that wrong as usual and someone will come on the forum to put him straight, but if by some miracle he has got it right the tax bill is going to be £62.125 a month. Shed has a big jar of old half-pee coins to which he would happily give Garden occasional access but he knows that laying out the other £62.12 every month will probably be a step too far for her. 

What would she be getting, though, if Shed did take the plunge? A big, comfortable and reasonably swift estate that will accommodate all the stuff you’d conceivably want to carry, like the postmistress, plus some of the stuff you wouldn’t, like Mrs Shed’s mother. Vector Sports came with cruise, electric driver seat adjustment, heated sports seats, leather lovely, parking sensors and plenty more. In fact, the Vector Sport had everything the Aero had bar the sat nav which you probably wouldn’t want anyway. 

Saab did a refresh on '06 model year 9-5s, the results of which you can see here. Not everybody liked the chrome-overdosed front end look and the back end wasn’t much better either, the people who were designing the tailgate lights having apparently never met the bods responsible for the lights in the rear wings. While we’re on the subject of dimness, older Saabs had the excellent Night Panel which blacked out most of the instrumentation lighting on your dash apart from the speedometer’s. Shed isn’t sure if later cars like this one had Night Panel, but he thinks the switch in the middle of the three to the right of the wheel might be something to do with it.

In Aero models, the long-established 2.3-litre B235 turbo-four engine went to 256hp and over 300hp in the factory-sanctioned Aero Hirsches. The low-pressure B235E version in our Euroshed was less ambitious at 182hp, but with 207lb ft at 1,800rpm it breezed along nicely enough. Wagons like this one returned 0-60 times in the mid-eights with a manual gearbox. The 5-speed Aisin auto trans added a fair chunk of time to that, like a second, but for everyday use it was well suited to the car. Some old-school Saabites preferred the feel of the manual but others reckoned that was like stirring a bucket of iron filings with a bent poker. Takes all sorts. 

The auto could generate electrical problems over time, but not as many as the 2.2-litre diesel that Saab used before they replaced it with the 1.9 in 2005. The petrols were generally OK but the well-named DIC direct ignition system was a pain, broken throttle housings caused misfires and the timing chains got rattly. Any oil leaks in that area were expensive to put right. White smoke from the exhaust meant a blown turbo and power steering fluid didn’t always stay where it was supposed to.

The MOT on this one comes up next month. Last October’s test uncovered a minor exhaust leak, a non-excessive oil leak that has been non-excessively leaking oil since 2021, and another ‘offside front nail in tyre’. It should have held back its run. That’s one for any football fans out there.  

Anyway, after due reflection and all things considered, not least the righteous vengeance that will come his way from Mrs Shed’s biggest saucepan if it goes wrong, Shed has decided not to buy this Saab for his daughter. That means you can buy it. Hurry up though because, as the ad says, this is their last Saab 9-5 in stock. 


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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

32,656 posts

185 months

Friday 20th September
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What a fantastic write up Mr Shed thanks, and you always put a smile on my face for sure. thumbup

I've never owned a Saab, but they're definitely a car that I've always admired though. It was sad to see them go I reckon.

GeniusOfLove

2,013 posts

17 months

Friday 20th September
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These are so, so, so overrated by the internet particularly as an auto with that crap 5 speed AW box.

Back in the day (that day being 30 years ago) when most people had only experienced wheezy 4 pot NASP engines a turbo SAAB was impressive. Now? No.

£710 a year RFL, 27.4mpg book, 182bhp, nearly 10 seconds to 62MPH. What a total turd.

Loving the dealers stock of all the scrapings of the no reserve lane at BCA.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Friday 20th September 00:38

carinaman

21,838 posts

177 months

Friday 20th September
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TheWokeBlob

54 posts

13 months

Friday 20th September
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£700 a year tax, 27MPG, a limp soul sucking AW box that was rubbish by mid 90s standard for a whole 185bhp that romps to 60 in a whole 10 seconds. The month's MOT and auction house photos are just the cherry on top, would genuinely rather walk.

GeniusOfLove

2,013 posts

17 months

Friday 20th September
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carinaman said:


That spiteful top rate of VED is absolutely killing cars like this. You can tolerate it for some 500bhp monster, but for a skid mark of a car like this?

The modern world has no place for cars like this. Back in the day you'd buy a crap old SAAB with 3 months tax and ticket from a bloke in a pub for £50, drive it around without ever registering it, and one day after the tax had expired come back to find it clamped, shrug and move on. That was student motoring.

In 2024? It's begging to be turned into refrigerators.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Friday 20th September 00:50

carinaman

21,838 posts

177 months

Friday 20th September
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Thanks GoL. I am pleased to be corrected.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

32,656 posts

185 months

Friday 20th September
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You lot are starting to make me upset about the £404 for 6 months tax, and the £735 tax a year on the 370Z now! Drat! hehe

The sad thing is...it will be even more expensive next year as well. banghead

el romeral

1,170 posts

142 months

Friday 20th September
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This is a good looking big Swede for a good price. On the downside the quoted performance figures are pretty limp which do not go well with the extremely stiff tax.

Edited by el romeral on Friday 20th September 05:54

itcaptainslow

3,804 posts

141 months

Friday 20th September
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GeniusOfLove said:
carinaman said:


That spiteful top rate of VED is absolutely killing cars like this. You can tolerate it for some 500bhp monster, but for a skid mark of a car like this?

The modern world has no place for cars like this. Back in the day you'd buy a crap old SAAB with 3 months tax and ticket from a bloke in a pub for £50, drive it around without ever registering it, and one day after the tax had expired come back to find it clamped, shrug and move on. That was student motoring.

In 2024? It's begging to be turned into refrigerators.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Friday 20th September 00:50
Absolutely - who will consider a shed where the annual tax is half the car’s value? Even breaking it down monthly is an absolute stinger.

Dog Biscuit

238 posts

2 months

Friday 20th September
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TheWokeBlob said:
£700 a year tax, 27MPG, a limp soul sucking AW box that was rubbish by mid 90s standard for a whole 185bhp that romps to 60 in a whole 10 seconds. The month's MOT and auction house photos are just the cherry on top, would genuinely rather walk.
Add in 9 previous keepers and the fact they've seemingly sold all their other SAAB's but nobody wanted this


BeastieBoy73

676 posts

117 months

Friday 20th September
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I can’t help but look at the high annual tax rate differently with regards shed motoring.

I can justify paying the high rate on a cheap car that isn’t going to subjected to massive depreciation.

£700ish is probably what the modern equivalent would cost for a month to lease.

I couldn’t justify paying it on a car with a face like that, though.

wistec1

401 posts

46 months

Friday 20th September
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If it's not good enough for Shed and more to the point his daughter "Garden" then it's a breaker. This is so bad I bet the pigeons fly upside down when passing over it because it's not worth stting on!
Sheds hydroponiced son"Potting" is probably the one for this crock of ste ,smacked off his tits enough to curve ball the running costs without even taxing or insuring it but his next drug wipe from plod would see this bundle of automotive joy confiscated and doing it's last journey on the back of a recovery flat bed to the breakers. So in the interest of road safety this is not an option either.

I must say I like how Shed is introducing us to his wider family with their uncanny names. One can only imagine what the grand kids are called and if "Garden or Potting" haven't discovered how to breed yet may I suggest the
names, Weed, greenhouse and mushrooms be considered. Magic.


sidesauce

2,635 posts

223 months

Friday 20th September
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GeniusOfLove said:
That spiteful top rate of VED is absolutely killing cars like this.
As it rightfully should - cars like this should have died off at least a decade ago and I say this as a former owner to two older Saabs than this one.

can't remember

1,082 posts

133 months

Friday 20th September
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A car so ugly Pontiac Azteks laugh at it.

Court_S

13,807 posts

182 months

Friday 20th September
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Not for me this week, ignoring the VED and relative lack of performance, I can’t get past the dame Edna glasses.

humphra

503 posts

97 months

Friday 20th September
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I'm always fascinated when the subject of VED crops up. Yes, £67 a month VED sounds expensive, but what if it was £0 VED, but £67/ month on finance? Would that change perspective on the cost?


ducnick

1,893 posts

248 months

Friday 20th September
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Someone I government ha realised you don’t need scrappage schemes to get these older cars off the road, you just tax them into scrappage.
In terms of value I foresee these kind of cars back down to the £200 mark because it’s more than the scrap man will give you. At £200 you can stomach the high tax for a yr or two

Alickadoo

2,128 posts

28 months

Friday 20th September
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What's wrong with a cockroach of a Toyota Corolla?

Mr E

22,041 posts

264 months

Friday 20th September
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Court_S said:
Not for me this week, ignoring the VED and relative lack of performance, I can’t get past the dame Edna glasses.
Hello possums!

ferret50

1,444 posts

14 months

Friday 20th September
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wistec1 said:
I must say I like how Shed is introducing us to his wider family with their uncanny names. One can only imagine what the grand kids are called and if "Garden or Potting" haven't discovered how to breed yet may I suggest the
names, Weed, greenhouse and mushrooms be considered. Magic.
But Shed told us that Garden has a son who has just moved to big school!

biglaugh

And we can safely assume that the postmistress is only accomadated horizontaly in this shed?

keep ducking the saucepans, Shed!

hehe