Red flags/niggles in a job?

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crofty1984

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16,393 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Wondering what people see as a red flag in a new/potential/current job?

Where I am there's been a couple of smashed and removed floor tiles in the gents since at least when I started over 6 months ago. Nearly 2m2, they're big tiles and there's been a couple of cones placed over them, so they're hardly un-noticeable. It's one of those things that doesn't REALLY matter in the grand scheme of things, the toilets/sinks still work, but it's a little niggle.


StuTheGrouch

5,845 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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"Why did you leave your last job?"

"Bathroom tiles were broken"

Micro-managing is the major red flag for me.

the cueball

1,443 posts

68 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Anytime they mention that the workplace is "all one big family"...

I've found that only works one way and you're expected to always go that extra mile 'cause "family"

Maybe you'll get a slice of pizza when they make a few hundred million as a thank you though....

crofty1984

Original Poster:

16,393 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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StuTheGrouch said:
"Why did you leave your last job?"

"Bathroom tiles were broken"

Micro-managing is the major red flag for me.
LOL! I suppose when you put it like that... smile


dunkind

396 posts

33 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Being invited down to the pub by the MD to be told that your pay cheques would be a little late this month, won’t be able to make the December payments. That was a definite red flag, then watching three of the hardware engineers beat the st out of the MD with serious injuries, (he spent Christmas in hospital). 1998 I remember it well.
Not only that but the beer was ste as well.

ChocolateFrog

31,019 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Overtime is expected and unpaid. Especially when there's little to no bonus.

Anything relatively to zero hour contracts or gig type work where it's clear they're just avoiding their responsibilities to their employees.

StuTheGrouch

5,845 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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crofty1984 said:
StuTheGrouch said:
"Why did you leave your last job?"

"Bathroom tiles were broken"

Micro-managing is the major red flag for me.
LOL! I suppose when you put it like that... smile
smile

I should clarify that micro-managing was nothing to do with the bathroom tiles, that was answering your question.

C5_Steve

5,592 posts

116 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Pizza being provided for any reason.

borcy

7,015 posts

69 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Any family run business.

skyebear

828 posts

19 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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Coffee and toilet apartheid.

some bloke

1,320 posts

80 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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Having a manager that simultaneously micro-manages and ignores you.

billbring

253 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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borcy said:
Any family run business.
This. As an employee, never again. As a customer, I'd avoid if there was any alternative.

John D.

19,046 posts

222 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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Compulsory Lunch and Learn sessions.


Aunty Pasty

782 posts

51 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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Hackathons. Any mention of this in a job description or company culture, the company can FRO.

ChocolateFrog

31,019 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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EmailAddress said:
crofty1984 said:
Wondering what people see as a red flag in a new/potential/current job?
The carpark looks like this out back:



... and this up front:

I drive past a scaffolding place most days. Quite a big outfit by the looks of it.

It looks exactly like that biglaugh

Taycan is even the same colour.

98elise

29,310 posts

174 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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When the very profitable company ypu work for starts counting every penny. Stuff like removing all stationary from departments/floors and having it issued (with some sort of justification) once a week from a locked cupboard.

Lose your pen on Monday? You'll have to wait until Friday to get another or leave the site for half hour to buy your own.

Money saved...25p. Half hour of my time... £25!


Edited by 98elise on Friday 20th September 14:42

C5_Steve

5,592 posts

116 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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Aunty Pasty said:
Hackathons. Any mention of this in a job description or company culture, the company can FRO.
Any sort of mention of "empowered to problem solve" goes well with that. Basically translates as "we're fed up of saying we'll fix things and then never doing it so we'll make it your fault it doesn't get changed from now on"

borcy

7,015 posts

69 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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Aunty Pasty said:
Hackathons. Any mention of this in a job description or company culture, the company can FRO.
What's a hackathon?

Aunty Pasty

782 posts

51 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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borcy said:
What's a hackathon?
It's something sometimes seen in the software development industry, particularly mobile app development where you or a group of you "have a bit of fun" throwing together some code to produce something to do a given task. Usually done over a few hours or days, mostly in your own spare time and not related to your day job. You all get to present it to each other in the end in some massive circle-jerk.

I spend all day doing software, the last thing I want to do to unwind in the evening is to do more of the same thing.

InformationSuperHighway

6,790 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th September 2024
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I wrote about this a while back. This was my perspective:

Moving jobs is a pretty frequent thing in Tech sales. The average CRO lasts 18 months, average Sales Rep even less.
So how do you know when to move? There are so many factors that go into making the decision it can seem almost impossible. What if it’s the right thing to do? What if I’m making a big career mistake?

You will need to live with your decision but these three questions should anchor you every time:

Do I have job security right now?
This one is fundamental. If you do not feel safe due to low performance or high likelihood of layoffs, you should start looking ASAP. If you do not feel secure, you should do your best to confirm your suspicion, then act. If not.. Next question

Is there future growth here for me and the company?
Really a two part question but this makes you look into the future. If the company is a rocketship with incredible growth multiples, it is worth sticking around to see what opportunities present themselves. A high growth company will always give you more opportunities than not. The other factor is personal growth. It’s perfectly fine to stick with a company that isn’t growing or one that is less than ideal in someway, if you are getting personal growth. This could be monetary, a great mentor, a new opportunity or new skill you are learning.

Does working here make me happy?
This ones goes a little deeper inside. What kind of person are you outside of work because of who you are inside of work? Do you end your day cranky? Depressed? Miserable? Do those emotions spread out into your personal life? Your family or your friends? If so, it is time to move as soon as possible. No company or paycheck is worth your mental health.. Ever.

This framework also works really well during your interview process to help you make the right next step as you decide to move on.