Police stopping vehicles on the motorway
Discussion
Morning all.
I flew down to Birmingham on Thursday to pick up my new car (Orange Lambo Performente ). Handover went well and proceeded up the M6 to Scotland.
As I entered Cumbria, Waze was pinging police alerts and there did seem to be a lot of police presence in general so I was a good boy , as always, and was just cruising along.
It wasn’t long until a police car came down an onslip and then proceeded to follow me, then orbit the car before finally pulling me over onto the hard shoulder.
Officer got out, said my car wasn’t taxed and I explained I had just picked it up, taxed it that morning etc. He was sound, took my license to do a check back at his patrol car.
Then, all I hear is the sound of tyre squeal. I look in my driver side wing mirror and see a massive truck coming from lane 3 right towards my car , pushing a grey Porsche Mican almost sideways. Somehow, the Porsche got flicked back out into lane 4 and the truck corrected itself into lane one before I had the chance of hitting myself and the police car. Debris all over the road and the Porsche was totally screwed down the left hand side, total write off.
We always get told how dangerous the motorways are. Why do police, for non dangerous matters, such as road tax or MOT insist on stopping drivers on the motorway? Why not wait until near a junction to pull people over , or stick on a “follow me” sign and escort off at the next junction.
We all know people rubber neck, and sticking a police car and an orange Perf on the hard shoulder is going to result in a lot of distracted drivers. But the same is true for any car.
I’m tempted to write to the police and ask them
To review their policies on stopping people on motorways for “paperwork” offences. It seems a very high risk activity for very low risk offence. I’m not saying ignore the offence, I’m saying deal with it somewhere appropriate .
Thoughts? I’m I just being a nimby and telling a cool story bro?
I flew down to Birmingham on Thursday to pick up my new car (Orange Lambo Performente ). Handover went well and proceeded up the M6 to Scotland.
As I entered Cumbria, Waze was pinging police alerts and there did seem to be a lot of police presence in general so I was a good boy , as always, and was just cruising along.
It wasn’t long until a police car came down an onslip and then proceeded to follow me, then orbit the car before finally pulling me over onto the hard shoulder.
Officer got out, said my car wasn’t taxed and I explained I had just picked it up, taxed it that morning etc. He was sound, took my license to do a check back at his patrol car.
Then, all I hear is the sound of tyre squeal. I look in my driver side wing mirror and see a massive truck coming from lane 3 right towards my car , pushing a grey Porsche Mican almost sideways. Somehow, the Porsche got flicked back out into lane 4 and the truck corrected itself into lane one before I had the chance of hitting myself and the police car. Debris all over the road and the Porsche was totally screwed down the left hand side, total write off.
We always get told how dangerous the motorways are. Why do police, for non dangerous matters, such as road tax or MOT insist on stopping drivers on the motorway? Why not wait until near a junction to pull people over , or stick on a “follow me” sign and escort off at the next junction.
We all know people rubber neck, and sticking a police car and an orange Perf on the hard shoulder is going to result in a lot of distracted drivers. But the same is true for any car.
I’m tempted to write to the police and ask them
To review their policies on stopping people on motorways for “paperwork” offences. It seems a very high risk activity for very low risk offence. I’m not saying ignore the offence, I’m saying deal with it somewhere appropriate .
Thoughts? I’m I just being a nimby and telling a cool story bro?
Edited by craig511 on Saturday 14th September 08:06
First up, I have no idea what Perf means, other than from a surf advert. I assume it is a car of some sort, that was orange.
However, I agree that hard shoulders are incredibly dangerous places to be stationary on, and before smart motorways were dreamt up, the death stats already showed this.
Maybe some resident plod might illuminate why a tax pi g required a stop? Yes it might be a trigger or signal of some deeper crime, like the famous Moors murderer was caught on a routine traffic stop. But I thought DVLA automatically fine for no tax anyway, so on its own could easily fit into being decriminalised.
I suppose the fall back will be "but drivers should be concentrating anyway".
But the police know they don't, so choosing to make a car stop in a dangerous place would need a good reason.
I don't think a letter to chief plod would be amiss.
Also, I recall police motorway cars first got extra bright red wig wag lights because of their cars being plowed into when stationary.
However, I agree that hard shoulders are incredibly dangerous places to be stationary on, and before smart motorways were dreamt up, the death stats already showed this.
Maybe some resident plod might illuminate why a tax pi g required a stop? Yes it might be a trigger or signal of some deeper crime, like the famous Moors murderer was caught on a routine traffic stop. But I thought DVLA automatically fine for no tax anyway, so on its own could easily fit into being decriminalised.
I suppose the fall back will be "but drivers should be concentrating anyway".
But the police know they don't, so choosing to make a car stop in a dangerous place would need a good reason.
I don't think a letter to chief plod would be amiss.
Also, I recall police motorway cars first got extra bright red wig wag lights because of their cars being plowed into when stationary.
craig511 said:
Morning all.
I flew down to Birmingham on Thursday to pick up my new car (Orange Lambo Performente ). Handover went well and proceeded up the M6 to Scotland.
As I entered Cumbria, Waze was pinging police alerts and there did seem to be a lot of police presence in general so I was a good boy , as always, and was just cruising along.
It wasn’t long until a police car came down an onslip and then proceeded to follow me, then orbit the car before finally pulling me over onto the hard shoulder.
Officer got out, said my car wasn’t taxed and I explained I had just picked it up, taxed it that morning etc. He was sound, took my license to do a check back at his patrol car.
Then, all I hear is the sound of tyre squeal. I look in my driver side wing mirror and see a massive truck coming from lane 3 right towards my car , pushing a grey Porsche Mican almost sideways. Somehow, the Porsche got flicked back out into lane 4 and the truck corrected itself into lane one before I had the chance of hitting myself and the police car. Debris all over the road and the Porsche was totally screwed down the left hand side, total write off.
We always get told how dangerous the motorways are. Why do police, for non dangerous matters, such as road tax or MOT insist on stopping drivers on the motorway? Why not wait until near a junction to pull people over , or stick on a “follow me” sign and escort off at the next junction.
We all know people rubber neck, and sticking a police car and an orange Perf on the hard shoulder is going to result in a lot of distracted drivers. But the same is true for any car.
I’m tempted to write to the police and ask them
To review their policies on stopping people on motorways for “paperwork” offences. It seems a very high risk activity for very low risk offence. I’m not saying ignore the offence, I’m saying deal with it somewhere appropriate .
Thoughts? I’m I just being a nimby and telling a cool story bro?
100% with you on this one, motorway hard shoulders are for emergencies. Suspecting someone may not have road tax is clearly not an emergency. Even the Police advise people not to stop on the hard shoulder unless there really is no other option. I flew down to Birmingham on Thursday to pick up my new car (Orange Lambo Performente ). Handover went well and proceeded up the M6 to Scotland.
As I entered Cumbria, Waze was pinging police alerts and there did seem to be a lot of police presence in general so I was a good boy , as always, and was just cruising along.
It wasn’t long until a police car came down an onslip and then proceeded to follow me, then orbit the car before finally pulling me over onto the hard shoulder.
Officer got out, said my car wasn’t taxed and I explained I had just picked it up, taxed it that morning etc. He was sound, took my license to do a check back at his patrol car.
Then, all I hear is the sound of tyre squeal. I look in my driver side wing mirror and see a massive truck coming from lane 3 right towards my car , pushing a grey Porsche Mican almost sideways. Somehow, the Porsche got flicked back out into lane 4 and the truck corrected itself into lane one before I had the chance of hitting myself and the police car. Debris all over the road and the Porsche was totally screwed down the left hand side, total write off.
We always get told how dangerous the motorways are. Why do police, for non dangerous matters, such as road tax or MOT insist on stopping drivers on the motorway? Why not wait until near a junction to pull people over , or stick on a “follow me” sign and escort off at the next junction.
We all know people rubber neck, and sticking a police car and an orange Perf on the hard shoulder is going to result in a lot of distracted drivers. But the same is true for any car.
I’m tempted to write to the police and ask them
To review their policies on stopping people on motorways for “paperwork” offences. It seems a very high risk activity for very low risk offence. I’m not saying ignore the offence, I’m saying deal with it somewhere appropriate .
Thoughts? I’m I just being a nimby and telling a cool story bro?
Edited by craig511 on Saturday 14th September 08:06
Seems very reckless for them to operate this way and unusual.
Jimjimhim said:
The next available slip road could be miles away, meaning the police wouldn't be able to get your issue quickly sorted and move on to the next, so it would reduce the amount of stops they can do.
Should be a reason to take such a risk IMO. They're public servants, risking damage or injury to check on Road tax seems a little.......stupid.LivLL said:
Jimjimhim said:
The next available slip road could be miles away, meaning the police wouldn't be able to get your issue quickly sorted and move on to the next, so it would reduce the amount of stops they can do.
Should be a reason to take such a risk IMO. They're public servants, risking damage or injury to check on Road tax seems a little.......stupid.I'd rather they had more time to stop people rather than muck about waiting for junctions.
Jimjimhim said:
LivLL said:
Jimjimhim said:
The next available slip road could be miles away, meaning the police wouldn't be able to get your issue quickly sorted and move on to the next, so it would reduce the amount of stops they can do.
Should be a reason to take such a risk IMO. They're public servants, risking damage or injury to check on Road tax seems a little.......stupid.I'd rather they had more time to stop people rather than muck about waiting for junctions.
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