RE: Volvo XC90 D5 | Shed of the Week

RE: Volvo XC90 D5 | Shed of the Week

Friday 6th September

Volvo XC90 D5 | Shed of the Week

You could spend £96k on the new Volvo EX90. Or you could save yourself £94k and buy this instead...


What are the three words Shed always looks for when he’s scouring the classifieds for a new (old) set of wheels? Apart from ‘one lady owner’, which he deludely thinks might lead to exciting new adventures. 

They never do, of course. The correct answer to the question is ‘full service history’. Shed knows it’s an unreasonable expectation for sub-£2k cars, but it does sometimes happen. It hasn’t happened with this week’s shed, a Volvo XC90 with a ‘comprehensive’ service history, which as we all know is usually several pages short of the ‘fully comprehensive’ history you’ll often scratch your head at in ads, and a lot more pages short of a genuinely ‘full’ one. 

However, after an event earlier this week, Shed has been asking himself if a full history is actually what he wants in an old motor. The event in question was, by pure coincidence, Mrs Shed’s purchase of a gen-one Volvo XC60. She wanted something large and imposing and with a rigid front end, attributes Shed hasn’t been able to provide for many years. Shed must admit that the car she bought does look the part. 

It has the 2.4 D5 engine like our shed, albeit a higher-powered version than the 161hp unit that’s in this week’s offering. The service history is as full as it can be, but when Shed accidentally caught a glimpse of it while poring through it page by page in his workshop khazi it made what’s left of his blood turn cold. None of the bills in the XC60’s folder were for less than £300, and many were for considerably higher sums than that. There were a hell of a lot of them too, covering every aspect of motoring: chassis, engine, electronics, the lot. 

Hopefully in the case of the XC60 the previous (presumably now bankrupt) owner’s loss will be Mrs Shed’s gain, but what’s to say the waterfall of bills won’t simply continue? Who will be to blame for that? Shed knows the answer and it’s not appealing to him on any level. What’s better for you, to have zero history and live in blissful ignorance or have the full history and live in fear of more crippling bills?

These five-cylinder D5s do have a reputation for longevity, but after scrutinising Mrs Shed’s paperwork Shed is now wondering if that’s because they’re constantly being mended. They do have a pleasantly grumbly, guttural sound and feel about them, and the higher-powered ones do march along quite nicely. That doesn’t really apply to this example which, despite its claimed 251lb ft of torque from as little as 1,750rpm, will need 12 and a bit seconds to haul its 2.1 tonnes through the 0-62mph run. Flat out you’ll be doing 115mph. The official combined fuel consumption was 31mpg but you can imagine what sort of driving you’ll need to be doing to get that. 

After many weeks of getting it wrong Shed is trying a different UK tax calculator this week. For this Volvo it says £710, which partly explains why XC90s are such a huge amount of car for so little money. 

There are other reasons, mind. If you want to keep marching along at all in your XC90 you will have to keep it well-maintained. The timing belts and associated gubbins need changing every 60k, and you ignore the Geartronic box at your peril. Turbos blow, injectors fail, oil can leak and there can be overheating issues.

On the plus side, these XC90s will provide comfortable and safe transport for up to seven. Even old ones are well equipped, and they’re all-year-round cars too because when Volvo puts an ‘AWD’ badge on the back of an XC they mean it. None of your occasional chiming in of the back wheels here. XCs drive all four wheels all of the time. You need to make sure all the wheels are being driven in the manufacturer-approved fashion though. If the geometry is out there’ll be expensively uneven tyre wear. 

There are about a thousand pics to look at in the advert, each one remarkably similar to the one you’ve just looked at. Skim through them quickly and you’ll get an insight into what it’s like to watch a video on Shed’s juddery old Alba VHS player, which he still uses. 

You can buy a brand new XC90 if you like but it won’t have the D5 engine because there are no diesel Volvos anymore. You have to have a mild- or plug-in petrol hybrid at prices starting from a little under £53k. If you think that’s expensive, think again: prices for the new, all-electric EX90 somehow manage to start at over £96,000. Phew. Against that, £1,995 for this XC90 looks wonderfully cheap – until the first bill arrives anyway. Shed won’t be helping you with that as he’s got a feeling he’s going to have his hands full. 


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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

33,528 posts

187 months

Friday 6th September
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I like this shed a lot.

428 days later

595 posts

70 months

Friday 6th September
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I know nothing about these cars other than every time they are mentioned here, it’s that they are unreliable and have high running costs but are excellent. I’d take the previous weeks Lexus or the Beamer from the one before still smile

Filibuster

3,281 posts

222 months

Friday 6th September
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I recently have been looking at these recently, although in V8 form. They have aged rather good, imho.
Or it is just me who is on a Y2K streak. An other car I covet atm is the original Cayenne wink

Anyhow, now it is official: this is the best streak sotw ever had. IIRC this is the 4th amazing sotw in a row clap

Augustus Windsock

3,461 posts

162 months

Friday 6th September
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Didn’t there use to be an urban legend that an XC99 had never been involved in a fatal RTC (and I presume they mean the occupants shuffling this mortal coil)?
I can’t imagine that it would mean ‘at all’ because when something g this size hits a smaller car…
Good effort Shed, one of the best of the year imho

N.A.R.T Spyder

88 posts

67 months

Friday 6th September
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For a shed that's in very good condition and you can't fault those lovely big Volvo leather seats. The tax is bit oooof (and don't take it anywhere near an Ulez) but someone is going to get alot of car for their money.

Baddie

691 posts

224 months

Friday 6th September
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Not for me.

Ran a manual a few years ago, good history, bought within family. Much as I liked it I wouldn't have another. The 4WD coupling had broken making it 2WD, cost my cousin £1.8k. It then had a faulty lighting module, forget the cost but 4 figures. The front suspension was creaky, then it sprang a major oil leak which may have needed a new engine. Vaguely recall spending £3k on it in a year or so, would have cost much more again to have kept it. Always intrigued to see old ones on the road, wondering how much they’ve rinsed the owner.

BTW, I think they’re default 2WD with the back axle kicking in when needed. It felt like a tall estate car that was beautifully solid, practical and comfy, but too heavy for its overworked underpinnings. This is brave pill territory for me.

Edited by Baddie on Friday 6th September 06:25

legless

1,796 posts

147 months

Friday 6th September
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This XC90 will be a gen-2 Haldex system, so not permanent AWD. Given the diff wind-up issues of previous permanent AWD Volvos that's not necessarily a bad thing though.

The tax will also be £415. It's a 55 plate, so was registered before March 2006.

rallycross

13,266 posts

244 months

Friday 6th September
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These are awful to drive and expensive to fix, corners like a fishing trawler in a force 9 gale. Horrible.

jfdi

1,137 posts

182 months

Friday 6th September
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When the rest of the car looks in such good condition, why do owners or dealers never spend a whole minute buffing each headlight back to clear. It would transform the front of the car.

Mark_Blanchard

856 posts

262 months

Friday 6th September
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I owned a 2006 model for many years, yes high maintenance bills and top tax bracket, but a very comfortable and practical family car.
At 150k the diff started going so moved it on.

Jamescrs

4,855 posts

72 months

Friday 6th September
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Advert looks a little sketchy, states 3 months warranty then two lines down "Part ex to clear - Trade sale" which makes me think there's actually no warranty at all and when the inevitable issues come you are on your own.

That and the £710 VEL, although questionable is enough for me to say no.

J4CKO

42,770 posts

207 months

Friday 6th September
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Nah, though it looks presentable it’s a slow old money pit.

el romeral

1,255 posts

144 months

Friday 6th September
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Condition wise it looks great for the money but that is a lot of tax (if correct), little power and a lot of bulk to shift - oh and it is diesel. Then again, what price a rigid front end?

Akannajinja

16 posts

44 months

Friday 6th September
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Owned a 2003 model. Single most expensive car I’ve ever run and nothing major went wrong with it! Eats suspension bits and bobs, steering racks, drive shafts, wheel bearings, brakes. Slow, and utterly brilliant! Loved driving it for some reason, but had to go as had ptsd from servicing and mot time. Still hanker after one, just can’t face the bills!

Davie

4,991 posts

222 months

Friday 6th September
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legless said:
This XC90 will be a gen-2 Haldex system, so not permanent AWD. Given the diff wind-up issues of previous permanent AWD Volvos that's not necessarily a bad thing though.
You say this but in turn that means a variety of potential AWD disabling issues. Haldex pumps can fail / seize as they usually never see an oil flush at this age. The control module (DEM) can fail internally. The angle gear sleeve can strip it's splines. The angle gear itself can wear and the rear diffs aren't bombproof either.

I had one of these briefly, proper shed bought for scrap money... I think it had every XC90 issue going, including a Geartronic box that didn't know it's role in life anymore. The potential bills to keep them "right" can be hefty. So again a classic case of a good one can be great but a bad one can be utterly terrible and in essence, scrap. I'd tread very very carefully and I'd agree, more brave than shed.

Angelo1985

381 posts

33 months

Friday 6th September
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There’s an awful lot of old xc90 around. They must be decently reliable, and clearly many people don’t want to change them 😃
Yes, it’s 700 a year in road tax, but given new car prices (especially if you need something similar) it may be worth keeping them as long as they go

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

33,528 posts

187 months

Friday 6th September
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The write up was top drawer as always I thought, and Mr Shed never fails to put a smile on my face in that regard for sure. I do like this, but it does seem a risky buy though, plus it isn't exactly brisk either. However, I do prefer the more laid back approach to driving SUVs though, because invariably when you go fast..slowing them down scares you to death because of the size/weight of them in my experience to be fair.

ducnick

1,920 posts

250 months

Friday 6th September
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When you buy a shed you can elect to go down one of four paths:

1. Reliable and never breaks down. eg a Lexus/toyota etc
2. Cheap to fix yourself eg Ford fiesta/volvo v60 etc
3. Things break but it just keeps going - no longer an option on more modern cars that need to pass mot’s with zero warning lights on and emissions etc so this category is very much the preserve of the classic car enthusiast.
4. None of the above

This xc90 falls into the 4th category. Expense bits will fail and it’s not one for the driveway mechanic on a budget.

A shed only really works if it can be purchased cheap and have a basic service done at home, then run yr to yr with no more spend. As soon as you need to open the cheque book between services it’s time to cuts your losses and more on.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

33,528 posts

187 months

Friday 6th September
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Angelo1985 said:
There’s an awful lot of old xc90 around. They must be decently reliable, and clearly many people don’t want to change them ??
Yes, it’s 700 a year in road tax, but given new car prices (especially if you need something similar) it may be worth keeping them as long as they go
It also has to be worth £700 a year to not have to drive an EV I would've thought as well? I'd happily pay £700 to not be seen driving an EV, and I do in fairness with the 370Z! biggrin

Sion111R

348 posts

99 months

Friday 6th September
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ducnick said:
When you buy a shed you can elect to go down one of four paths:

1. Reliable and never breaks down. eg a Lexus/toyota etc
2. Cheap to fix yourself eg Ford fiesta/volvo v60 etc
3. Things break but it just keeps going - no longer an option on more modern cars that need to pass mot’s with zero warning lights on and emissions etc so this category is very much the preserve of the classic car enthusiast.
4. None of the above

This xc90 falls into the 4th category. Expense bits will fail and it’s not one for the driveway mechanic on a budget.

A shed only really works if it can be purchased cheap and have a basic service done at home, then run yr to yr with no more spend. As soon as you need to open the cheque book between services it’s time to cuts your losses and more on.
100% agree.