B58 Tuning sweet spot?

B58 Tuning sweet spot?

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Pizzaeatingking

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545 posts

78 months

Sunday 18th August
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I've got a 2018 340i, I fitted the MPPSK after 6 months then mapped it once it was out of warranty. I've not gone any further because A, I have been busy with work and the cars been neglected and B, it can't put the power down with an open diff.

Work is just starting to flow a bit better and I've just got back from Nurburgring, seeing all the nice cars there has rejuvenated my enthusiasm for the 40i. Once the diff is sorted I'm going to add a little more power, I've seen loads of B58 powered cars running silly power but I'm not after maxing anything out, my priority is reliability. I've used the same method with all of my previous cars, basically don't push anything to it's limit.

I'm going to get a sports cat and a TU fuel pump (perhaps an intake for noise too) which would then get me up to about 480bhp I think. At this point, is the turbo being pushed hard? Worth upgrading for longevity? I'd be happy at that kinda power level but I guess if the turbo is pushed perhaps I could wack a new one on and take it to a round 500bhp maybe, while keeping everything in a nice working window.

Anyone got some experience of tuning these?

TIA

sunnyb13

1,038 posts

45 months

Sunday 18th August
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Stage 2+ is great and keeps the drivability.

Make sure to do a cold start delete if you’ve got the mppsk , else it will do your head in.

I’ve had a big power setup previously, but ended up reverting back to stage 2+ as it wasn't balanced.

It’s a great daily driver. Very fast, sounds great, and handles ok. It’s not an M3 nor does it pretend to be.

Happy to take you for a spin if your in you’re local.

Jamescrs

4,871 posts

72 months

Tuesday 20th August
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I had a 240i and thought it was a brilliant car, I kept mine at Stage 1 and ran it for about 12 months, I never felt it needed more power to be honest, I’m sure an LSD would have benefitted it.

I traded mine in for an F82 M4 which is a different beast entirely but I’d still happily get in another Stage 1 M240i

scz4

2,569 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th August
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MHD Stage 2 was fantastic. Just like OEM but a lot more power and torque.

As for the removing the cold start-up, it made the idle a lumpy in the cold winter months. Not tried it in the summer.

Pizzaeatingking

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545 posts

78 months

Friday 23rd August
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Thanks for the replies (and Sunny for the ride offer!). Sounds like I'm on the right track then, 480ish seems like a good target. Just need to sort the LSD first then. Little project for winter after that, Ospray sports cat seems to be well rated, pump and a decent map.

rottenegg

801 posts

70 months

Saturday 24th August
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If the PalmerSport spec M4 Competition is anything to go by, then 500hp feels spot on to me. Very fast indeed. It was a twitchy handful on track though, so an M lite with that power on the road would be quite tricky in bad weather I would imagine.

Pizzaeatingking

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545 posts

78 months

Friday 30th August
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rottenegg said:
If the PalmerSport spec M4 Competition is anything to go by, then 500hp feels spot on to me. Very fast indeed. It was a twitchy handful on track though, so an M lite with that power on the road would be quite tricky in bad weather I would imagine.
Yeah, I expect 500 bhp to be a handful, I have Bilstein coilovers, it's coming up to 45k now so I'll probably start refreshing and upgrading bushes over winter too. Plus the LSD hopefully it'll be manageable.

b14

1,140 posts

195 months

Friday 30th August
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I've got 450bhp in my 340i with an LSD and it is very manageable. It will only break traction in the dry when you are silly with it deliberately. In the wet it is a lot easier but these engines seem to retain their ability to be entirely driveable as if they were stock, when tuned to much higher power levels.

The B58 is a modern masterpiece of engine design in my view.

scz4

2,569 posts

248 months

Saturday 31st August
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rottenegg

801 posts

70 months

Saturday 31st August
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Pizzaeatingking

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545 posts

78 months

Sunday 1st September
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Pizzaeatingking

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545 posts

78 months

Sunday 1st September
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rottenegg said:
That's where the S58 comes in. It has massive midrange punch but also has the top end zing the B58 does not have.

But unfortunately that does mean buying an M vs an M lite though smile Could always retro fit an S58 into an M lite though I suppose. It's such a different engine to the B58 and would be worth the faff, imo.
I'd like a E90 M3 next year I think so that would cover the character side of things for me, albeit in another car but you can never have too many BMWs right.