E Class, E220 what year did adaptive cruise come out?

[Allmyown]

Hi all.
Looked at 3 MB, E220 today.
2017 SE
2018 AMG
2019 AMG

I couldn't seem to confirm if any of them had adaptive cruise control?

Any pointers?

[Dewi 2]

Allmyown said:

Hi all.
Looked at 3 MB, E220 today.
2017 SE
2018 AMG
2019 AMG

I couldn't seem to confirm if any of them had adaptive cruise control?

Any pointers?

Even with the later W213 models, there is quite a variation about which options are included.
I think the Premium package models probably have adaptive cruise control.
It might depend on whether the Driver Assistance package is included.

The way to check at a glance, is to look at the steering wheel controls.
If this button is present, that is the distance control for adaptive cruise control.





The 'sweet spot' in the W213 range must be the facelift cars.
MBUX was introduced, including the touchpad controller (one of four ways to operate the system).
Some even consider this model to be superior to the replacement W214, because the screens are more discrete and quite a few manual switches are still present.

Edited by Dewi 2 on Sunday 11th August 08:36

[Allmyown]

Dewi 2 said:

Allmyown said:

Hi all.
Looked at 3 MB, E220 today.
2017 SE
2018 AMG
2019 AMG

I couldn't seem to confirm if any of them had adaptive cruise control?

Any pointers?

Even with the later W213 models, there is quite a variation about which options are included.
I think the Premium package models probably have adaptive cruise control.
It might depend on whether the Driver Assistance package is included.

The way to check at a glance, is to look at the steering wheel controls.
If this button is present, that is the distance control for adaptive cruise control.



The 'sweet spot' in the W213 range must be the facelift cars.
MBUX was introduced, including the touchpad controller (one of four ways to operate the system).
Some even consider this model to be superior to the replacement W214, because the screens are more discrete and quite a few manual switches are still present.

Edited by Dewi 2 on Sunday 11th August 08:36

Thanks,
Good info on the adaptive cruise control.

I guess 2018/2019 is the face lift year.
They be the ones with the wider, but slimmer back lights?

[ZX10R NIN]

Allmyown said:

Hi all.
Looked at 3 MB, E220 today.
2017 SE
2018 AMG
2019 AMG

I couldn't seem to confirm if any of them had adaptive cruise control?

Any pointers?

Look at the Mercedes badge on the front if it's plastic then it has adaptive if you can see down the sides of the three pointed star then it doesn't have it.

[Allmyown]

ZX10R NIN said:

Allmyown said:

Hi all.
Looked at 3 MB, E220 today.
2017 SE
2018 AMG
2019 AMG

I couldn't seem to confirm if any of them had adaptive cruise control?

Any pointers?

Look at the Mercedes badge on the front if it's plastic then it has adaptive if you can see down the sides of the three pointed star then it doesn't have it.

So if it has holes through the 3 pointy things, then no adaptive?
If solid then has got it?

[ZX10R NIN]

Allmyown said:

So if it has holes through the 3 pointy things, then no adaptive?
If solid then has got it?

Correct

[MustangGT]

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

[PSRG]

I ordered a E350 convertible in mid 2019, delivered September that year, and adaptive cruise formed part of the Driver Assistant Pack. It wasn't standard, and didn't come with the Premium Plus pack which I also ordered.

[ZX10R NIN]

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

You know you don't have to turn it on.

[MustangGT]

ZX10R NIN said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

You know you don't have to turn it on.

I do.

We have 2 Mercedes at home, both pre-Covid. We have found the build quality and equipment levels dropped off considerably during Covid, down to shortages of kit in terms of specification levels.

[cerb4.5lee]

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

[Allmyown]

cerb4.5lee said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

Would be the wifes replacement car.
50 miles of motorway, adaptive is very good.

[AC43]

cerb4.5lee said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

I turn it on when I hit the A40 going west or the M1 going north and it stays on till I get to Leeds/Wales/Scotland. Brilliant bit of kit. So relaxing.

[Dewi 2]

Allmyown said:

Thanks,
Good info on the adaptive cruise control.

I guess 2018/2019 is the face lift year.
They be the ones with the wider, but slimmer back lights?

Announced in 2020, which was when the pandemic came to Europe, so you will find most of those models advertised are 2021 to 2023. Yes, the rear light change is the quick clue, but also a big improvement to the infotainment system and the EQ 48 volt starter/generator became a fitment. Engine starts silently and turbo lag is eliminated. A very comfortable car.

I was surprised how few petrol versions are available.

Saw the new replacement (W214) in a showroom today. Promoted as an all-new model, but you have to look very carefully to notice what the changes are. Priced at £70,000, which made me very pleased with my recent (W213) purchase. Two years old, 4,000 miles, unmarked, less than half that new price (and I avoided the huge screen going across the entire dashboard).
Thank you to whoever the unknown first owner briefly was. You saved me a lot of money.

Illustrates the huge first two years percentage depreciation for these cars. Looking on the positive side though, about the same percentage as an EQS on its first drive away from a dealer. Ouch!

[MustangGT]

AC43 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

I turn it on when I hit the A40 going west or the M1 going north and it stays on till I get to Leeds/Wales/Scotland. Brilliant bit of kit. So relaxing.

Very annoying to other drivers, also totally against the Highway Code s260 which states:

Highway_Code_S260 said:

260
When you can see well ahead and the road conditions are good, you should

drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit

As someone who uses lanes correctly, adaptive cruise on a car in lane 2 makes it difficult to plan when to change lanes to overtake slower traffic. It is amazing the number of times a car comes cruising up a few mph faster than me in lane 2, then slows to my speed right next to me preventing me from pulling out.

[AC43]

MustangGT said:

AC43 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

I turn it on when I hit the A40 going west or the M1 going north and it stays on till I get to Leeds/Wales/Scotland. Brilliant bit of kit. So relaxing.

Very annoying to other drivers, also totally against the Highway Code s260 which states:

Highway_Code_S260 said:

260
When you can see well ahead and the road conditions are good, you should

drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit

As someone who uses lanes correctly, adaptive cruise on a car in lane 2 makes it difficult to plan when to change lanes to overtake slower traffic. It is amazing the number of times a car comes cruising up a few mph faster than me in lane 2, then slows to my speed right next to me preventing me from pulling out.

Yeah but you can easily temporarily override it to overtake something/avoid something, It resumes doing what it was doing before as soon as you've cleared the obstacle.

I intervene whenever my judgement's needed. But, back to the point of it, it makes a long journey very easy in this era of speed cameras. Otherwise I'm spending way too much time working out whatever the random speed limit is on any stretch of road and/or accidentally adding 20 or 30 mph to what's now "acceptable".

[MustangGT]

AC43 said:

MustangGT said:

AC43 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

I turn it on when I hit the A40 going west or the M1 going north and it stays on till I get to Leeds/Wales/Scotland. Brilliant bit of kit. So relaxing.

Very annoying to other drivers, also totally against the Highway Code s260 which states:

Highway_Code_S260 said:

260
When you can see well ahead and the road conditions are good, you should

drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit

As someone who uses lanes correctly, adaptive cruise on a car in lane 2 makes it difficult to plan when to change lanes to overtake slower traffic. It is amazing the number of times a car comes cruising up a few mph faster than me in lane 2, then slows to my speed right next to me preventing me from pulling out.

Yeah but you can easily temporarily override it to overtake something/avoid something, It resumes doing what it was doing before as soon as you've cleared the obstacle.

I intervene whenever my judgement's needed. But, back to the point of it, it makes a long journey very easy in this era of speed cameras. Otherwise I'm spending way too much time working out whatever the random speed limit is on any stretch of road and/or accidentally adding 20 or 30 mph to what's now "acceptable".

That is exactly my point. Mr/Mrs MLM does not do that at all, they just sit in the middle lane, likely half sleep, totally oblivious to what is going on around them.

[AC43]

MustangGT said:

AC43 said:

MustangGT said:

AC43 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

MustangGT said:

Good to know, as a way of avoiding the hateful system.

I like it when I'm feeling a bit lazy to be honest, and I like that it does everything for you(steers/brakes etc).

I turn it on when I hit the A40 going west or the M1 going north and it stays on till I get to Leeds/Wales/Scotland. Brilliant bit of kit. So relaxing.

Very annoying to other drivers, also totally against the Highway Code s260 which states:

Highway_Code_S260 said:

260
When you can see well ahead and the road conditions are good, you should

drive at a steady cruising speed which you and your vehicle can handle safely and is within the speed limit

As someone who uses lanes correctly, adaptive cruise on a car in lane 2 makes it difficult to plan when to change lanes to overtake slower traffic. It is amazing the number of times a car comes cruising up a few mph faster than me in lane 2, then slows to my speed right next to me preventing me from pulling out.

Yeah but you can easily temporarily override it to overtake something/avoid something, It resumes doing what it was doing before as soon as you've cleared the obstacle.

I intervene whenever my judgement's needed. But, back to the point of it, it makes a long journey very easy in this era of speed cameras. Otherwise I'm spending way too much time working out whatever the random speed limit is on any stretch of road and/or accidentally adding 20 or 30 mph to what's now "acceptable".

That is exactly my point. Mr/Mrs MLM does not do that at all, they just sit in the middle lane, likely half sleep, totally oblivious to what is going on around them.

Ah yes, that's really irritating behaviour.

Used properly it's like one of those AI copilots; you can leave it to do a lot of the heavy lifting but you should always expect to have to intervene when needed.