VW Tiguan brake and disc change quotation
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Hi there PH forumers,
I was wondering if anyone could help. I've been told that my 2014 Tiguan 177 2.0L Match 4Motion has "pitted" front and rear brake discs. At same time, I've recently started experiencing quite significant "shudder" when braking, and so I assume this is a likely cause (though VW also flagged some worn bushes).
It was serviced by VW in July, who stated the pitting could wait till pads depleted, but this shudder has me concerned the car is now firmly disagreeing with that assessment. I paid KwikFit to check alignment, which was slightly out, but not enough to cause the issues. They pretty much mirrored VW's comments, but said front discs "could" be warped, though hard to tell
VW wanted £500+ front/rear (each), and so I went to ask quote from my local "German car specialist" I've used them previously for belt/pump changes, and they've been good - they have quoted the following:
- The Price for the Front Brake Discs & Pads is £451.80 all-inclusive of VAT
- The price for the Rear Brake Discs & Pads is £421.20 all-inclusive of VAT.
My question - is this reasonable? I've not specified any parts, so I assume they'll use whatever standard VW parts they use. A quick search suggests the parts would be ~£300, even for branded Bosch ones, which are well rated, leaving ~£570 for labour/sundries. I believe UK mechanics are (roughly) £60 p/hour, so are we really looking at an 8-10 hour job here?!?
Sounds highly unlikely to me.
Was hoping someone here could let me know if these prices sound about right? I hate being overcharged for something that should be considerably less!
Many thanks.
I was wondering if anyone could help. I've been told that my 2014 Tiguan 177 2.0L Match 4Motion has "pitted" front and rear brake discs. At same time, I've recently started experiencing quite significant "shudder" when braking, and so I assume this is a likely cause (though VW also flagged some worn bushes).
It was serviced by VW in July, who stated the pitting could wait till pads depleted, but this shudder has me concerned the car is now firmly disagreeing with that assessment. I paid KwikFit to check alignment, which was slightly out, but not enough to cause the issues. They pretty much mirrored VW's comments, but said front discs "could" be warped, though hard to tell
VW wanted £500+ front/rear (each), and so I went to ask quote from my local "German car specialist" I've used them previously for belt/pump changes, and they've been good - they have quoted the following:
- The Price for the Front Brake Discs & Pads is £451.80 all-inclusive of VAT
- The price for the Rear Brake Discs & Pads is £421.20 all-inclusive of VAT.
My question - is this reasonable? I've not specified any parts, so I assume they'll use whatever standard VW parts they use. A quick search suggests the parts would be ~£300, even for branded Bosch ones, which are well rated, leaving ~£570 for labour/sundries. I believe UK mechanics are (roughly) £60 p/hour, so are we really looking at an 8-10 hour job here?!?
Sounds highly unlikely to me.
Was hoping someone here could let me know if these prices sound about right? I hate being overcharged for something that should be considerably less!
Many thanks.
One of those jobs that if you can DIY you can literally save hundreds.
I did a set of pads and discs all round on a similar age Transporter for a mate, who was quoted similar numbers by VW, for about £150 which was the cost of the parts and a case of beer.
Took about 3 hours on my drive.
I did a set of pads and discs all round on a similar age Transporter for a mate, who was quoted similar numbers by VW, for about £150 which was the cost of the parts and a case of beer.
Took about 3 hours on my drive.
Thank you everyone for your help.
In update to this, I took my car to my local garage (not the GER specialists), who have excellent long running reviews. Firstly, they did what I'd hoped most mechanics would do thus far. Instead of making large inhaling noises, they took the car for a 10 minute drive! He concurs there's definite need to replace the discs, and he's pretty sure the front discs are warped too. He's also got inkling that NSF calliper is sticking - saying excess heat coming from that side after his test drive.
He also agreed with my assumption that the specialists were still required for e.g., the DSG and Haldex change(s) I have coming up - I'm always reassured when a company accepts their limitation - they said it needs special equipment, and they recommend going with someone decent.
They also corrected my clearly outdated knowledge of mechanic's labour! Charging £85p/h excluding VAT (so ~£102 approx) - that said, even with this price discovery, they have said it would take them 2 hours to replace full pads + discs. So I've no idea where the quote from the specialists was plucked from. I would say perhaps they're using VW branded parts which are over inflated or something. But even a good Brembo set for my car only runs to around £400, leaving over £500 in labour.
Long story short. I don't need a VW specialist to fit a pair of discs and pads, and as expected their quote was wildly high compared to a local garage (even though their DSG/Haldex quote was reasonable - confirmed by garage today, but perhaps expected because VW themselves have fixed pricing for it).
Full quote received this afternoon is ~£480 (front and rear pads + discs + sensor + labour etc) - this is "best case", they're also going to look at/attempt to clean the caliper, but have quoted an additional £185 should that need fully replacing.
All in all a confirmation that it's always worth checking for a second quote/opinion, and that some garages just love to over inflate costs for some services.
Thank you again for all your help. Fingers crossed this shall resolve the issue, and save me £300-500 in process.
In update to this, I took my car to my local garage (not the GER specialists), who have excellent long running reviews. Firstly, they did what I'd hoped most mechanics would do thus far. Instead of making large inhaling noises, they took the car for a 10 minute drive! He concurs there's definite need to replace the discs, and he's pretty sure the front discs are warped too. He's also got inkling that NSF calliper is sticking - saying excess heat coming from that side after his test drive.
He also agreed with my assumption that the specialists were still required for e.g., the DSG and Haldex change(s) I have coming up - I'm always reassured when a company accepts their limitation - they said it needs special equipment, and they recommend going with someone decent.
They also corrected my clearly outdated knowledge of mechanic's labour! Charging £85p/h excluding VAT (so ~£102 approx) - that said, even with this price discovery, they have said it would take them 2 hours to replace full pads + discs. So I've no idea where the quote from the specialists was plucked from. I would say perhaps they're using VW branded parts which are over inflated or something. But even a good Brembo set for my car only runs to around £400, leaving over £500 in labour.
Long story short. I don't need a VW specialist to fit a pair of discs and pads, and as expected their quote was wildly high compared to a local garage (even though their DSG/Haldex quote was reasonable - confirmed by garage today, but perhaps expected because VW themselves have fixed pricing for it).
Full quote received this afternoon is ~£480 (front and rear pads + discs + sensor + labour etc) - this is "best case", they're also going to look at/attempt to clean the caliper, but have quoted an additional £185 should that need fully replacing.
All in all a confirmation that it's always worth checking for a second quote/opinion, and that some garages just love to over inflate costs for some services.
Thank you again for all your help. Fingers crossed this shall resolve the issue, and save me £300-500 in process.
austina35 said:
If you have an electric handbrake then retracting the rear caliper piston to be able to fit new pads needs the computer to do it.
I may be wrong
Hi, thanks for the heads up.I may be wrong
Tiguan does indeed have auto-handbrake (and auto pretty much everything it seems lol). However, shouldn't be a problem if the caliper issue is NSF?
stevemcs said:
Haldex isn’t specialist, it’s drain and refill. DSG if 6 speed is straight forward, 7 speed needs diagnostics but the drain and fill process is simple.
Haldex on some cars is an issue as you have to drop the prop to get at the pump bolts
Interesting, thank you. Yep, my one is the 7 speed DSG. Guy said something about needs pressurising or similar, so best to get done with the specialist. Haldex was pretty low cost with specialist (around £120 all in), so didn't feel like an issue. Local garage said sounded reasonable as bit of a faff job.Haldex on some cars is an issue as you have to drop the prop to get at the pump bolts
stevemcs said:
Haldex isn’t specialist, it’s drain and refill. DSG if 6 speed is straight forward, 7 speed needs diagnostics but the drain and fill process is simple.
Haldex on some jlr cars is an issue as you have to drop the prop to get at the pump bolts
The Haldex needs to be run through its adaption/learn process using VCDS etc after swapping the oil and cleaning the strainer.Haldex on some jlr cars is an issue as you have to drop the prop to get at the pump bolts
stevemcs said:
Haldex isn’t specialist, it’s drain and refill. DSG if 6 speed is straight forward, 7 speed needs diagnostics but the drain and fill process is simple.
Haldex on some jlr cars is an issue as you have to drop the prop to get at the pump bolts
Access to the filter is a pain (if you are doing it) plus getting the gearbox to the right temperature after the fillHaldex on some jlr cars is an issue as you have to drop the prop to get at the pump bolts
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