pipe identification please

pipe identification please

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Andy70

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1,287 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th August
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Can anyone give me then name of this hose please? It was the one in a previous thread that Britishtvr450 told me to blank off to set the base idle tgats fed under the throttle cable linkage, I noticed some insulation tape at the other end hidden behind the throttle cable linkage, a bit of a giveaway I think, maybe that's why I was having trouble setting my base idle





Belle427

9,568 posts

238 months

Sunday 4th August
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Stepper motor to plenum hose.

blaze_away

1,546 posts

218 months

Andy70

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1,287 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th August
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blaze_away said:
see, when you know what it's called its easy innit!! thank you, while you are there, Ive also tried to find the spark plug extenders/adaptors as they seem to be called, I've searched for both and only come up with ACT again, but out of stock, I did find an old thread on here that suggested they were a Vauxhall part and only a couple of quid, is that right? Thank you very much, i did search but didn't know what is was called so that's why i struggled


Edited by Andy70 on Sunday 4th August 17:15

Belle427

9,568 posts

238 months

Sunday 4th August
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I dont think you can buy the originals anymore and they certainly wouldnt be a couple of quid each. They are the source of a lot of ignition problems and most choose to ditch them in favour of leads with angled ends and heat protective socks.

PabloGee

427 posts

25 months

Sunday 4th August
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Yep, I have a full set of working extenders in my loft for exactly the reasons Blaze points out.
Now using leads with angled boots and decent heat socks.

Andy70

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Sunday 4th August
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PabloGee said:
Yep, I have a full set of working extenders in my loft for exactly the reasons Blaze points out.
Now using leads with angled boots and decent heat socks.
I think my extenders are ok, I hope they last then, I just wanted to change them for piece of mind.

The car is running much better now, until i order a new hose I at least had the foresight to glue an innertube puncture repair patch on before i wrapped it in insulation tape, it seems to have done the job, the car is still lumpy a bit on tick over but revs are settling better now, when I changed the sparkplugs they were really sooty, but its more manageable to drive, I'm actually enjoying it

Andy70

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1,287 posts

164 months

Monday 5th August
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false alarm not running better, any one else sell this hose? ACT is closed till the 14th August, bummer

BritishTvr450

303 posts

4 months

Monday 5th August
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You should be able to get one from any Landrover place or breakers

Have you sent a log file to Blaze yet.

Andy70

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164 months

Monday 5th August
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BritishTvr450 said:
You should be able to get one from any Landrover place or breakers

Have you sent a log file to Blaze yet.
No not yet

BritishTvr450

303 posts

4 months

Monday 5th August
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Andy70 said:
No not yet
Try too as soon as you can Andy.

He will identify if you have vacumn leaks and any other possible faults leading to rough idle.

Andy70

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1,287 posts

164 months

Monday 5th August
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BritishTvr450 said:
Try too as soon as you can Andy.

He will identify if you have vacumn leaks and any other possible faults leading to rough idle.
so how does the rover gauge work, does it log info as you drive? the thing is, issue are intermittent, so in other words it has to be running crap to identify problems?, I'm learning as I'm going, it seems to be getting worse, as the car is warming up it drives lovely, i turn engine off then on again, and it wont tick over.... sometimes, hence why I was struggling with the base idle, the next morning everything was all good, I've looked at threads regarding the coolant temp sensor, but cant seem to find it, for 10 quid, i'd change it, then i saw these plugs not connected to anything (in a separate post) I can only presume the issue is related to something that's failing when getting warm, I like to replace the ht lead extenders, but seemingly difficult to get hold of, I assume HT leads are ok as the car has done 62k and it has Magnecor leads fitted at some point in the cars life

Edited by Andy70 on Monday 5th August 22:44

Belle427

9,568 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Air flow meters are the main culprit for playing up especially when heat soaked.
Check the connector and the terminals look ok, remove it and inspect for cleanliness.
Id wait it out for the stepper hose as i dont think thats the source of your problem, the Rovergauge log will help i think you will just run the engine without driving for the log file but Blaze will confirm.

blaze_away

1,546 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Belle427 said:
Air flow meters are the main culprit for playing up especially when heat soaked.
Check the connector and the terminals look ok, remove it and inspect for cleanliness.
Id wait it out for the stepper hose as i dont think thats the source of your problem, the Rovergauge log will help i think you will just run the engine without driving for the log file but Blaze will confirm.
As Belle427 says......the logfile file can be created a number of ways. Ideal is to start logging data from cold to hot whilst driving followed by 5 full minutes of static idling. This way I can assess all the ECU inputs and outputs for full range operation and idling performance. If you can't achieve that because the car just won't do that then a logfile with some idling will have to do. Because your situation appears chronic it may well be easy to spot. I will post exact logging process here in a bit.

Edited by blaze_away on Tuesday 6th August 20:08

blaze_away

1,546 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th August
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As above....


blaze_away

1,546 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th August
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OP sent the files and all the ECU inputs and outputs look good EXCEPT the Idle Control Valve (ICV) and TARGET IDLE

The target Idle has been recorded by RG as 0 (zero) either very odd or not check boxed to be recorded.

The ICV on most well running cars is in range of 20 to 40 % OP's is running at 1.5%

This suggest either something really odd with the ECU not have a target idle or more likely a bad base idle being set or vacuum leak as yet undetected which is preventing that from being properly set.

If we can establish the target idle exists and it simply wasn't recorded then suggest a smoke test to find the vacuum leak. If there really is no ECU base idle then maybe fit a known good ECU (I have a couple of spares if needed)

Here is what ICV control looks like OP v mine.


Belle427

9,568 posts

238 months

Thursday 8th August
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Not sure where we are now with all the other threads but check the small diameter hose is connected from the fuel pressure regulator to hose tail on the stepper motor housing.

Andy70

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1,287 posts

164 months

Thursday 8th August
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Belle427 said:
Not sure where we are now with all the other threads but check the small diameter hose is connected from the fuel pressure regulator to hose tail on the stepper motor housing.
Yep I'll try and find that later when I get home from work, thank you

PabloGee

427 posts

25 months

Thursday 8th August
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Great to see a more informed diagnosis!
Less guessing smile

Andy70

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1,287 posts

164 months

Thursday 8th August
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PabloGee said:
Great to see a more informed diagnosis!
Less guessing smile
Definitely, hose is on order. Let's hope it's as simple as that