Two race winners , then their not

Two race winners , then their not

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Adrian W

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14,568 posts

241 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Is this a good look for Formula One?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,947 posts

248 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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It's always been thus. I remember Schumi being DSQ after wearing way too much plank.

Fairly regular occurrence in all motor sports.

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Monday 29th July 14:52

Jasandjules

70,877 posts

242 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Lewis was DQ'd from Austin was he not?

It is not uncommon to change the outcome of a race after it has finished. Except when the FIA breaks the rules to gift a WDC at which point all decisions must stand......

the-norseman

14,030 posts

184 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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must be a new DTS fan.

Gixer968CS

731 posts

101 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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they're

StevieBee

14,053 posts

268 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Adrian W said:
Is this a good look for Formula One?
It adds to the intrigue.

As other have said, it's part of the territory that is F1 and always will be. It's not practical to wait until scrutineering has been completed before dishing out the prizes.

John D.

19,021 posts

222 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Jasandjules said:
Lewis was DQ'd from Austin was he not?

It is not uncommon to change the outcome of a race after it has finished. Except when the FIA breaks the rules to gift a WDC at which point all decisions must stand......
Its certainly a better look than much of 2021.

Adrian W

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Monday 29th July 2024
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Gixer968CS said:
they're
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Dingu

4,839 posts

43 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Would teams being able to cheat and keep the win look better for you?

Adrian W

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241 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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My point is that it's effectively two on the trot, even though Norris didn't actually cross the line in first place, I though the gambling companies get upset about team orders as it's open to all sorts of manipulation

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,947 posts

248 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Dingu said:
Would teams being able to cheat and keep the win look better for you?
That's an even more regular occurrence! hehe

Jimjimhim

2,107 posts

13 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Adrian W said:
Is this a good look for Formula One?
How would you do it differently? The cars have to meet a minimum weight so have to be weighed after the race. Things like this don't happen often enough to justify everyone waiting an hour or 2 after every race to find out who the winner is.

Dingu

4,839 posts

43 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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The previous result was nothing like yesterday.

It’s a team sport at the end of the day.

DanielSan

19,356 posts

180 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Adrian W said:
My point is that it's effectively two on the trot, even though Norris didn't actually cross the line in first place, I though the gambling companies get upset about team orders as it's open to all sorts of manipulation
Won't someone think of them for a change!? They're always the ones losing out.

StevieBee

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268 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Adrian W said:
My point is that it's effectively two on the trot, even though Norris didn't actually cross the line in first place, I though the gambling companies get upset about team orders as it's open to all sorts of manipulation
Betting firms benefit regardless of who crosses the winning line. And if they don't that's their problem and not F1's.

F1 is largely immune to the effects of gambling manipulation because the sums involved in incentivising it wouldn't be to a level that wouldn't make it worthwhile and/or to a level that would make it obvious.

F1 does what it does. If companies want to provide odds on the outcomes, that's fine but those that make a punt have to accept the anomalies that can often occur.

For everyone who had a tenner on Russel winning, there would be others who had a tenner on Hamilton. Either way, some were destined win, others, not.

Sandpit Steve

12,229 posts

87 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Adrian W said:
My point is that it's effectively two on the trot, even though Norris didn't actually cross the line in first place, I though the gambling companies get upset about team orders as it's open to all sorts of manipulation
Interestingly, most bookies settle their bets at the time of the podium ceremony. Obviously check the details of who takes your bets, but when the World Feed has the “result” on screen after the champagne has been sprayed, that’s the result as far as they’re concerned.

Given that some results have taken several weeks to settle in the history of the sport, that’s hardly surprising.

Nickp82

3,538 posts

106 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I remember Schumi being DSQ after wearing way too much plank.

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Monday 29th July 14:52
It’s difficult to disguise when wearing overalls wink

Jasandjules

70,877 posts

242 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Dingu said:
Would teams being able to cheat and keep the win look better for you?
No need to bring all of 2021 into this.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,947 posts

248 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Nickp82 said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I remember Schumi being DSQ after wearing way too much plank.

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Monday 29th July 14:52
It’s difficult to disguise when wearing overalls wink
biggrin bad typing by me hehe

the tribester

2,702 posts

99 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Sandpit Steve said:
Adrian W said:
My point is that it's effectively two on the trot, even though Norris didn't actually cross the line in first place, I though the gambling companies get upset about team orders as it's open to all sorts of manipulation
Interestingly, most bookies settle their bets at the time of the podium ceremony. Obviously check the details of who takes your bets, but when the World Feed has the “result” on screen after the champagne has been sprayed, that’s the result as far as they’re concerned.

Given that some results have taken several weeks to settle in the history of the sport, that’s hardly surprising.
And if you had a bet on Lewis to win? Do you still collect?