New P460 Range Rover Sport, or FFRR - plus SV or Autobio?

[kbf1981]

I'm deciding on a new company car to order probably September, or pick up then.

I'm torn between:

- new G90 M5
- new P460 or P550 Range Rover or Range Rover Sport
- not sure on which of the above, or which trims, autobiography or SV

I can't quite work out what you get for the extra £30k on an SV over Autobiography on the FFRR?

We already have a 2024 (bought Feb) FFRR LWB P460e Autobiography in the family and its fantastic, I can't see anything that the SV has that this doesn't.... is it just stylistic differences?

What's the pro's and cons of the FFRR over the RRS? RRS looks like it has a bigger boot, but smaller passenger area. Drivers area looks very similar size.

Do they drive differently? Same off road ability?

This is a daily car for business and commuting. We have a FFRR in the family (my wife drives with our 2 kids), I just need a daily for work as my other cars a ferrari and that's not suitable for every day business trips visiting customers and smashing motorway miles. This would be replacing a 2018 Bentayga W12 which sounds lovely, is really fast, but tech is very old now in it (no android auto).

I'm leaning to RRS Auto in P460 trim as it's around £100k, everything else is 30k more and I don't really see what you're getting for it (FFRR has nicer passenger area but we already have one for family trips). Wondering if RRS drives better than FFRR?

Also.... never had a BMW M car, slightly tempted to look at the new M5 as that's 8% bik and interior looks super cool. Worried it'll be st though as 2.5 tons. Also think depreciation will be massive compared to RR's

Edited by kbf1981 on Saturday 6th July 13:03

[Wheelspinning]

There won't be any new deals on the M5 until a short period after like they have done on the M3, so unless you are tied in with a lease etc that you can hand it back at the end of term, there shall be an almighty spanking involved.

Currently, if you have a look at how many 550e are available at main dealers with delivery mileage and 20K below list indicates deals are definately there to be had.

We have had 2 of the new RRs, and binned our 550e SV order as I had an inkling it was going to go into free fall.

Whereby the 2 previous cars were bought back by the dealer for exactly what we paid for each 8 months later, that seems like a different dimension now.

I posted about 6 weeks ago I was offered a Velocity blue 23 plate SV for £118k; that cost the seller £167k last May....thats frightening.

Spec wise, the Autobiography nails it now as it seems to have the signature stereo etc, so I cannot see the near £30k premuim.

A dealer this week offered me their '24 550e Autobiography demo with less than 1k miles with towbar steps etc for £121k which listed at £149k.

I'm very tempted but still feel they can do better and awaiting another call.

[kbf1981]

Wheelspinning said:

There won't be any new deals on the M5 until a short period after like they have done on the M3, so unless you are tied in with a lease etc that you can hand it back at the end of term, there shall be an almighty spanking involved.

Currently, if you have a look at how many 550e are available at main dealers with delivery mileage and 20K below list indicates deals are definately there to be had.

We have had 2 of the new RRs, and binned our 550e SV order as I had an inkling it was going to go into free fall.

Whereby the 2 previous cars were bought back by the dealer for exactly what we paid for each 8 months later, that seems like a different dimension now.

I posted about 6 weeks ago I was offered a Velocity blue 23 plate SV for £118k; that cost the seller £167k last May....thats frightening.

Spec wise, the Autobiography nails it now as it seems to have the signature stereo etc, so I cannot see the near £30k premuim.

A dealer this week offered me their '24 550e Autobiography demo with less than 1k miles with towbar steps etc for £121k which listed at £149k.

I'm very tempted but still feel they can do better and awaiting another call.

Is this on FFRR or Sport?

Yeah at 120k thats a bargain tbh

[Wheelspinning]

The FFRR.

However, i had a launch edition 510e sport for a wee while; thats actually a cracking car also.

I once eeked 84miles on full 'leccy in that...

[kbf1981]

Wheelspinning said:

The FFRR.

However, i had a launch edition 510e sport for a wee while; thats actually a cracking car also.

I once eeked 84miles on full 'leccy in that...

What did you find the differences were?

[Wheelspinning]

Bizarrely enough, the sport had comfier seats and even with 23s, seemed to be even more compliant on the road.

The new sport is a really good car.

[Sixpackpert]

Well, I have just been narrowing down a new RRS p460e for my next company car.

Be warned. As I found out last year when renewing the insurance on my X5 45e there is only one insurer for company cars over £75k in value and that is Aviva. This was confirmed by 3 separate brokers.

The RRS I found was £103,445. Aviva don’t insure anything over £100k. Found another one that was £98k. Aviva declined to quote online or over the phone. Found a nearly new for £87k, same story. So it seems that Aviva will not insure Range Rover Sports. Location is Gloucester, less than 12,000 miles a year, clean license parked on drive overnight.

If anyone has any options that the brokers don’t know about for insurers offering company car insurance please let me know.

[Wheelspinning]

Sixpackpert said:

Well, I have just been narrowing down a new RRS p460e for my next company car.

Be warned. As I found out last year when renewing the insurance on my X5 45e there is only one insurer for company cars over £75k in value and that is Aviva. This was confirmed by 3 separate brokers.

The RRS I found was £103,445. Aviva don’t insure anything over £100k. Found another one that was £98k. Aviva declined to quote online or over the phone. Found a nearly new for £87k, same story. So it seems that Aviva will not insure Range Rover Sports. Location is Gloucester, less than 12,000 miles a year, clean license parked on drive overnight.

If anyone has any options that the brokers don’t know about for insurers offering company car insurance please let me know.

If you are buying new, surely you take up the 3 Yr insurance deal.

I am.

[Sixpackpert]

Wheelspinning said:

Sixpackpert said:

Well, I have just been narrowing down a new RRS p460e for my next company car.

Be warned. As I found out last year when renewing the insurance on my X5 45e there is only one insurer for company cars over £75k in value and that is Aviva. This was confirmed by 3 separate brokers.

The RRS I found was £103,445. Aviva don’t insure anything over £100k. Found another one that was £98k. Aviva declined to quote online or over the phone. Found a nearly new for £87k, same story. So it seems that Aviva will not insure Range Rover Sports. Location is Gloucester, less than 12,000 miles a year, clean license parked on drive overnight.

If anyone has any options that the brokers don’t know about for insurers offering company car insurance please let me know.

If you are buying new, surely you take up the 3 Yr insurance deal.

I am.

That is only applicable for private buyers, not company cars or cars owned by a company.

Thought I would try it anyway. I’m 47, no convictions etc etc and…




They bring out a superb car with great BIK rate to favour the company car guys, all the reviews bang on about how it is cheaper than a good as a company car, yet no one will offer insurance for it as a company car. Brilliant!

Shot taken from the Land Rover insurance, the last point is pertinent to this thread I believe.

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Edited by Sixpackpert on Wednesday 17th July 21:05

[M4Dave]

Admiral insured our P550e company car, for circa £750.00 per year

[Sixpackpert]

M4Dave said:

Admiral insured our P550e company car, for circa £750.00 per year

Really, how? They flatly refused when I enquired as it was a company car. They were happy to quote me personally with business use but not as a company car. And for £750…really? That’s a third of the price of my X5 insurance.

We only have 1 company car, mine, so cannot use fleet insurance. Maybe if you have fleet insurance it’s doable?

Edited by Sixpackpert on Friday 19th July 07:24

[hotwheels23]

I’ve got a p550e autobiography epic car and very low BIK for company car, don’t bother with the SV look at 2nd hand prices and how they’ve bombed, only really cosmetic differences and the phev returns much better mpg. I negotiated £15k below list

[scratch pervert]

kbf1981 said:

I'm deciding on a new company car to order probably September, or pick up then.

I'm torn between:

- new G90 M5
- new P460 or P550 Range Rover or Range Rover Sport
- not sure on which of the above, or which trims, autobiography or SV

I can't quite work out what you get for the extra £30k on an SV over Autobiography on the FFRR?

We already have a 2024 (bought Feb) FFRR LWB P460e Autobiography in the family and its fantastic, I can't see anything that the SV has that this doesn't.... is it just stylistic differences?

What's the pro's and cons of the FFRR over the RRS? RRS looks like it has a bigger boot, but smaller passenger area. Drivers area looks very similar size.

Do they drive differently? Same off road ability?

This is a daily car for business and commuting. We have a FFRR in the family (my wife drives with our 2 kids), I just need a daily for work as my other cars a ferrari and that's not suitable for every day business trips visiting customers and smashing motorway miles. This would be replacing a 2018 Bentayga W12 which sounds lovely, is really fast, but tech is very old now in it (no android auto).

I'm leaning to RRS Auto in P460 trim as it's around £100k, everything else is 30k more and I don't really see what you're getting for it (FFRR has nicer passenger area but we already have one for family trips). Wondering if RRS drives better than FFRR?

Also.... never had a BMW M car, slightly tempted to look at the new M5 as that's 8% bik and interior looks super cool. Worried it'll be st though as 2.5 tons. Also think depreciation will be massive compared to RR's

Edited by kbf1981 on Saturday 6th July 13:03

Which option did you go with OP?

I test drove a RR 550e this week, but I'm not sure the salesman knew exactly how/when the car switched between electric and petrol. For the duration of the drive, the dashboard displayed the EV light but he assured me that the car was switching to petrol when needed. Although the car drove great, it wasn't very responsive when joining a dual carriageway.

[bimjim]

If it had EV on the dash then it almost certainly remained in electric drive only, unless you really gave it some.

You can toggle between Hybrid, EV and Save. The names of which are self explanatory. It sounds like you were in EV throughout. It’s a shame the sales person didn’t know this, although in their defence the switch between the two is very subtle.

[APOLO1]

Wheelspinning said:

A dealer this week offered me their '24 550e Autobiography demo with less than 1k miles with towbar steps etc for £121k which listed at £149k.

I'm very tempted but still feel they can do better and awaiting another call.

That looks a cracking deal, i am about to buy a new for 1st Sep reg FFRR 350D Autobiography 20k discount from new OTR price is the best i can get....all the right options etc,

[Phil.]

APOLO1 said:

That looks a cracking deal, i am about to buy a new for 1st Sep reg FFRR 350D Autobiography 20k discount from new OTR price is the best i can get....all the right options etc,

That seems a reasonable deal and covers first year depreciation (ish).

I have a FFRR D350 HSE plus options, and it’s great in so many ways. Enjoy!

[APOLO1]

I know it’s a great engine I did 17k miles in a Dec 22 350 Autobiography sold it in May this year, when new Cayenne came which is great but still need another 4x4. 20k discount seems about the norm on these pre built cancellations order cars that are on free allocation to every dealer.

[kbf1981]

scratch pervert said:

kbf1981 said:

I'm deciding on a new company car to order probably September, or pick up then.

I'm torn between:

- new G90 M5
- new P460 or P550 Range Rover or Range Rover Sport
- not sure on which of the above, or which trims, autobiography or SV

I can't quite work out what you get for the extra £30k on an SV over Autobiography on the FFRR?

We already have a 2024 (bought Feb) FFRR LWB P460e Autobiography in the family and its fantastic, I can't see anything that the SV has that this doesn't.... is it just stylistic differences?

What's the pro's and cons of the FFRR over the RRS? RRS looks like it has a bigger boot, but smaller passenger area. Drivers area looks very similar size.

Do they drive differently? Same off road ability?

This is a daily car for business and commuting. We have a FFRR in the family (my wife drives with our 2 kids), I just need a daily for work as my other cars a ferrari and that's not suitable for every day business trips visiting customers and smashing motorway miles. This would be replacing a 2018 Bentayga W12 which sounds lovely, is really fast, but tech is very old now in it (no android auto).

I'm leaning to RRS Auto in P460 trim as it's around £100k, everything else is 30k more and I don't really see what you're getting for it (FFRR has nicer passenger area but we already have one for family trips). Wondering if RRS drives better than FFRR?

Also.... never had a BMW M car, slightly tempted to look at the new M5 as that's 8% bik and interior looks super cool. Worried it'll be st though as 2.5 tons. Also think depreciation will be massive compared to RR's

Edited by kbf1981 on Saturday 6th July 13:03

Which option did you go with OP?

I test drove a RR 550e this week, but I'm not sure the salesman knew exactly how/when the car switched between electric and petrol. For the duration of the drive, the dashboard displayed the EV light but he assured me that the car was switching to petrol when needed. Although the car drove great, it wasn't very responsive when joining a dual carriageway.

I've ordered a Green / Tan interior RR p460e autobiography with privacy glass and fridge extras.

Looks lovely!

[Phil.]

Any discount? A minimum of 12% is being suggested as the norm presently, a lot more in some cases.

[kbf1981]

Phil. said:

Any discount? A minimum of 12% is being suggested as the norm presently, a lot more in some cases.

I leased it:

- £1348
- 1 + 35
- 10k miles per yr

Was better value than any of the PCP, Cash etc deals that existed. Car was around £140k list.

Edited by kbf1981 on Tuesday 17th September 13:09