The next 5 years with Labour?
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Legacywr

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15,513 posts

216 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Do we expect…

A serious reduction in boats crossing the channel?

Seriously reduced NHS waiting lists?

No st in our rivers?

Next day appointments to see a GP?

An abundance of NHS dentists?

A serious reduction in food banks?

An upturn in growth?

Or, Labour Party blaming the Tories.

I’m not put out to see Labour win this election, it was time for a change of government, but I don’t see much ‘Change’ at all.

cliffords

4,080 posts

51 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Remember he finishes early on a Friday though so leave it till after the weekend.

LF5335

7,443 posts

71 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Legacywr said:
Do we expect…

A serious reduction in boats crossing the channel?

Seriously reduced NHS waiting lists?

No st in our rivers?

Next day appointments to see a GP?

An abundance of NHS dentists?

A serious reduction in food banks?

An upturn in growth?

Or, Labour Party blaming the Tories.

I’m not put out to see Labour win this election, it was time for a change of government, but I don’t see much ‘Change’ at all.
Yes. It will all happen instantly, just like everything was perfect on 13/12/2019 and bloody Putin and Covid then ruined it. We had utopia back then.

Or more realistically, you’ll see many things improve, rather than just continuing to fall apart as they have done for the past 5 years.

bloomen

9,929 posts

187 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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I expect decline to be continuing and irreversible.

But Labour won't gob in our faces with quite so much vigour. Or contempt.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

208 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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I'll give them 13 years.

HoHoHo

15,397 posts

278 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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You'll get called a clown for asking such questions..............

Rivenink

4,292 posts

134 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Legacywr said:
Do we expect…

A serious reduction in boats crossing the channel?

Seriously reduced NHS waiting lists?

No st in our rivers?

Next day appointments to see a GP?

An abundance of NHS dentists?

A serious reduction in food banks?

An upturn in growth?

Or, Labour Party blaming the Tories.

I’m not put out to see Labour win this election, it was time for a change of government, but I don’t see much ‘Change’ at all.
We'll see in 4-5 years.... no?

Sheets Tabuer

21,328 posts

243 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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1.3m houses, probably won't be a problem unless you have loads of fields near you.

Muzzer79

12,940 posts

215 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Legacywr said:
I’m not put out to see Labour win this election, it was time for a change of government, but I don’t see much ‘Change’ at all.
Sunak conceded just over 9 hours ago

I am by no means a Labour supporter but give them a flippin' chance!

grumbledoak

32,532 posts

261 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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We have swapped one globalist stooge for another with a different tie.

Why is anyone expecting change?

the-photographer

4,924 posts

204 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Legacywr said:
Do we expect…

A serious reduction in boats crossing the channel?

Seriously reduced NHS waiting lists?

No st in our rivers?

Next day appointments to see a GP?

An abundance of NHS dentists?

A serious reduction in food banks?

An upturn in growth?

Or, Labour Party blaming the Tories.

I’m not put out to see Labour win this election, it was time for a change of government, but I don’t see much ‘Change’ at all.
If you let me borrow your DeLorean I will let you yesterday!

S600BSB

8,142 posts

134 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Legacywr said:
Do we expect…

A serious reduction in boats crossing the channel?

Seriously reduced NHS waiting lists?

No st in our rivers?

Next day appointments to see a GP?

An abundance of NHS dentists?

A serious reduction in food banks?

An upturn in growth?

Or, Labour Party blaming the Tories.

I’m not put out to see Labour win this election, it was time for a change of government, but I don’t see much ‘Change’ at all.
Can we win the Euros as well please.

BikeBikeBIke

14,377 posts

143 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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LF5335 said:
Yes. It will all happen instantly, just like everything was perfect on 13/12/2019 and bloody Putin and Covid then ruined it. We had utopia back then.

Or more realistically, you’ll see many things improve, rather than just continuing to fall apart as they have done for the past 5 years.
If underfunding is the problem and funding is easily available, which is what we've been told for.... Well for 14 years.... Then that can be fixed in a single emergency budget immediately.

Of.course if the Torys weren't evil after all and, in fact, there's a limit to what you can spend.... Then there would be no immediate fix.

Be interesting to see which it is.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 5th July 14:32

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19,389 posts

64 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Sheets Tabuer said:
1.3m houses, probably won't be a problem unless you have loads of fields near you.
Along with contaminated brown field sites.

What could possibly go wrong.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,823 posts

178 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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grumbledoak said:
We have swapped one globalist stooge for another with a different tie.

Why is anyone expecting change?
When you conspiracy loons talk about globalists, why don't you just say what you mean....Jews.

I'm guessing you're not a fan of the North London Metropolitan elite either. rolleyes

Four Litre

2,174 posts

220 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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I'm no Labour fan and like most this will be based on historic experience.

My expectations are low, cant see how on earth he will solve illegal immigration without some harsh action. He's definitely not the man for that, neither is the party. Other than that I see steady decline as they borrow more and waste it on diversity and inclusion, net zero along with increasing benefits for the work shy.

Oh, and taxes, higher taxes by any means possible. Especially from the motorist and anyone who works hard for a living that has had minimal success as that needs to be shared!

Best of luck all. Hope nobody who voted for them comes back moaning in 6 months time.

Well at least its Friday and I finish at 6 wink

Newc

2,186 posts

210 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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BikeBikeBIke said:
If underfunding is the problem and funding is easily available, which is what we've been told for.... Well for 14 years.... Then that can be fixed in a single emergency budget immediately.
Exactly this. I don't recall the Tories saying that they were eagerly increasing NHS waiting lists, or food banks, or illegal immigration. But I do recall them having a sizeable majority, and the highest tax take since WW2. And yet none of those problems was fixed, which implies that they just didn't have access to the magic wand that Labour will now wave.



Muzzer79

12,940 posts

215 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Four Litre said:
I'm no Labour fan and like most this will be based on historic experience.

My expectations are low, cant see how on earth he will solve illegal immigration without some harsh action. He's definitely not the man for that, neither is the party. Other than that I see steady decline as they borrow more and waste it on diversity and inclusion, net zero along with increasing benefits for the work shy.

Oh, and taxes, higher taxes by any means possible. Especially from the motorist and anyone who works hard for a living that has had minimal success as that needs to be shared!

Best of luck all. Hope nobody who voted for them comes back moaning in 6 months time.

Well at least its Friday and I finish at 6 wink
I don't disagree but the trouble is that one could write a very similar post if the Tories had won last night.

This country faces some issues (NHS, Immigration to name just two) which have no pleasant solutions. It's real gun-or-knife stuff and, politically, no party can wave a magic wand and solve them.

LF5335

7,443 posts

71 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Newc said:
Exactly this. I don't recall the Tories saying that they were eagerly increasing NHS waiting lists, or food banks, or illegal immigration. But I do recall them having a sizeable majority, and the highest tax take since WW2. And yet none of those problems was fixed, which implies that they just didn't have access to the magic wand that Labour will now wave.
I’m guessing they might spend it a bit more wisely than giving Rwanda £350m, or really any of the £130billion that the Tories have pissed up a wall. Even if Labour piss half of that amount away that’s still £65billion that can do a lot of good

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tories-squa...

grumbledoak

32,532 posts

261 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
When you conspiracy loons talk about globalists, why don't you just say what you mean....Jews.

I'm guessing you're not a fan of the North London Metropolitan elite either. rolleyes
I was referring more to the Davos crowd that Starmer seems so enamoured of. I have no idea if Kuddly Klaus is Jewish or not.

As to the "North London Metropolitan elite" - what is it? It sounds like an escort agency.
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