981 Cayman CSR

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adamlstr

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Coming from many years of Mitsubishi Evo 6 ownership, I was struggling with ideas of what to replace my beloved Evo 6 GSR/RS mongrel with. Nothing modern could come close to the engagement levels, without suffering a huge price tag.

This was until a friend of mine bought a 981 Cayman S CSR that had been modified by RPM to a somewhat lengthy degree. Back in summer 2021 I was fortunate enough to borrow it for a long weekend, including some time spent circulating Goodwood. It was immediately apparent that this car, and only this car, could replace the irreplaceable in a similar price bracket.





Steering feedback was incredible, power to weight similar to that of the Evo, and within two corners I was pressing on nicely. The spec sheet read well:
  • KW V3 Clubsport
  • Wavetrac LSD
  • AP BBK
  • GT4 ARBs
  • RPM low ratio crown wheel & pinion
  • Various engine bolt ons
  • Stripped interior
At the time, I said it’s one of the best cars I’ve ever driven. Not ballistically fast, but just so good and rewarding to drive quickly. I also said at the time he was not allowed to sell it to anyone but me. biggrin

Fast forward to Summer 2023, and the car having been used as a recce car for track and race-work, it had gone through some visual upgrades with the previous custodian. With a GT4 rear wing, and addition of the 20” Carrera wheels, and crucially — the interior had gone back in:




Once the Evo had sold, a deal was struck and the Cayman was mine. I knew the hans-ears seats had to go, so they were first on my hit list:





I knew that the Japanese market RS-G Recaro (as I had in the Evo) was a perfect fit for my frame, in terms of shoulder strap harness hole height. So I sourced a pair in alcantara, and installed them. They are much better for a ‘clubsport-esque’ build.

And that’s how it’s sat, for now.




The current on-going project, is to quieten it down for track-use. It did have some dB killers on it, but they aren’t any good any more. I’m having some GT3-esque slip on silencers fabricated, and they’ll be in use nearly all the time I suspect. I would also like to downsize the wheels from 20 inch to 19 inch, so currently doing a lot of J and ET clearance checking.


Edited by adamlstr on Wednesday 3rd July 12:29


Edited by adamlstr on Friday 5th July 11:04

TheOctaneAddict

868 posts

54 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Awesome!

I have a base 981 cayman with PSE which is far too loud for most UK circuits, i'll be interested to see how you get on with the slip on silencers.

I love the car but its vocalness is making me consider selling it so i can buy something more trackday noise friendly.

d_a_n1979

9,608 posts

79 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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That's stunning! Never been a huge Porsche fan; but they're starting to grow on me biggrin

BRR

1,862 posts

179 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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That looks great and I bet is huge fun to drive

RC1807

12,975 posts

175 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Oooh. Crisis moment. paperbag

TheDoggingFather

17,212 posts

213 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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That's a smart looking track tool, the 981 is a great looking car.

cst

393 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd July
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Great looking car with some very nice upgrades. Enjoy

the-norseman

13,336 posts

178 months

Thursday 4th July
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Damn I miss my 981

Bright Halo

3,238 posts

242 months

Thursday 4th July
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Very, very nice and would be ideal for me.
I was thinking of going down the Alpine 110 route in a couple of years but this has turned my head back towards Porsche.
Following with interest.

thelostboy

4,675 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th July
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Looks great! Would be fascinating to see what it would be like back-to-back with a GT4.

Quickmoose

4,683 posts

130 months

Thursday 4th July
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What a cracking car!.... where are the shortfalls?....are there any??
The 3.4 in the S is such a characterful lump too... have you detailed the engine mods?

PGNSagaris

2,991 posts

173 months

Thursday 4th July
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I know that car very well.

You’re got an unbelievable bit of kit there. Enjoy.

adamlstr

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Friday 5th July
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thelostboy said:
Looks great! Would be fascinating to see what it would be like back-to-back with a GT4.
A GT4 would likely have legs on it, due to the 3.8. I’ve not driven one though, so can’t compare!

Quickmoose said:
What a cracking car!.... where are the shortfalls?....are there any??
The 3.4 in the S is such a characterful lump too... have you detailed the engine mods?
I haven’t been through the history with a fine toothed comb, but as far as I know thus far:
  • Freer flowing headers
  • IPD plenum
  • 82mm TB
  • GTS filter and inlet
Short falls wise, it’s a little noisy at idle due to the diff and flywheel. And 6th is on the short side, but it’s made 1st-5th so much better. Haven’t really discovered any other short comings, yet.

PGNSagaris said:
I know that car very well.

You’re got an unbelievable bit of kit there. Enjoy.
Thanks! biggrin

Quickmoose

4,683 posts

130 months

Friday 5th July
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I have a friend who is ticking off "CSR" upgrades to his 996.
Plenums and throttle bodies have been his favourite changes...

After all the millions these expert engineers spend to create these cars, its STILL useful and fun to mess with them to get all those small gains/margins - to create something properly distinct...

adamlstr

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Saturday 6th July
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Quickmoose said:
I have a friend who is ticking off "CSR" upgrades to his 996.
Plenums and throttle bodies have been his favourite changes...

After all the millions these expert engineers spend to create these cars, its STILL useful and fun to mess with them to get all those small gains/margins - to create something properly distinct...
I’ll admit I don’t actually know what makes a CSR, a CSR! This 981 has dials, and trim pieces with the moniker on them.

The sum of the parts though, is very good! I appreciate the kind words all.

Quickmoose

4,683 posts

130 months

adamlstr

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Monday 8th July
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Quickmoose said:
Yeah, that’s this exact car. biglaugh

Bright Halo

3,238 posts

242 months

Monday 8th July
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adamlstr said:
Quickmoose said:
Yeah, that’s this exact car. biglaugh
The standouts there are an lsd and lower gear ratio’s.
Excellent!

Slippydiff

15,148 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th July
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Bright Halo said:
adamlstr said:
Quickmoose said:
Yeah, that’s this exact car. biglaugh
The standouts there are an lsd and lower gear ratio’s.
Excellent!
I drove your car at RPMT back in 2017. It was a brilliant car to drive !!
I’ve written a review on it somewhere in the Porsche forum, but can’t find it frown
Here’s what I said in another thread in the PH Porsche forum ;


What the 981 lacks in steering feel/weight, it makes up for in numerous other departments, and many will be happy to sacrifice the last vestiges of steering feel/weight for the newer car's improved cabin ergonomics, higher build quality and more cohesive exterior aesthetics.

Having driven RPM Technik's 981 S Cayman CLR in this guise 2-3 years ago :

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/blog/cayman-981-csr-secon...

I came away from the experience feeling that they'd narrowed the gap to the older car's steering weight/feel to the degree it was now a none issue. The fitment of Ohlins R&T suspension, uprated ARB's, Cup 2's and I suspect some GT3 front coffin arms, or their own equivalent, along with a decent geo was all that was needed to address the issue”.

I had intended to do a 981 CSR build, but by the time I’d crunched the numbers to include a GT4/Spyder front bumper, Ohlins suspension, lightweight flywheel, LSD, shorter final drive, 19” wheels, Recaro seats, optimisation of the engine/exhaust/intake etc, the costs really didn’t stack up when compared to a GT4 by the time you’d bought a sensible miles 3.4S and paid RPMT to do the build for you.

Enjoy the car, it’s very special smile

adamlstr

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th July
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Slippydiff said:
I drove your car at RPMT back in 2017. It was a brilliant car to drive !!
I’ve written a review on it somewhere in the Porsche forum, but can’t find it frown
Here’s what I said in another thread in the PH Porsche forum ;


What the 981 lacks in steering feel/weight, it makes up for in numerous other departments, and many will be happy to sacrifice the last vestiges of steering feel/weight for the newer car's improved cabin ergonomics, higher build quality and more cohesive exterior aesthetics.

Having driven RPM Technik's 981 S Cayman CLR in this guise 2-3 years ago :

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/blog/cayman-981-csr-secon...

I came away from the experience feeling that they'd narrowed the gap to the older car's steering weight/feel to the degree it was now a none issue. The fitment of Ohlins R&T suspension, uprated ARB's, Cup 2's and I suspect some GT3 front coffin arms, or their own equivalent, along with a decent geo was all that was needed to address the issue”.

I had intended to do a 981 CSR build, but by the time I’d crunched the numbers to include a GT4/Spyder front bumper, Ohlins suspension, lightweight flywheel, LSD, shorter final drive, 19” wheels, Recaro seats, optimisation of the engine/exhaust/intake etc, the costs really didn’t stack up when compared to a GT4 by the time you’d bought a sensible miles 3.4S and paid RPMT to do the build for you.

Enjoy the car, it’s very special smile
Thanks for that! biggrin I think most of the bones are still the same, but the suspension is now KW V3 CS. I’m not sure when it was changed. Having had Öhlins on my Evo, I’m not sure why you’d change!