DB killer or alternative?

[OldGermanHeaps]

Just bought a bike and its obnoxiously loud, it is a ktm 1190 with a titanium arrow carbon tipped can and aftermarket decat downpipes. It doesn't sound too bad when you are on it, but with the helmet off its pretty loud, revving it you can feel it in your chest.
Do db killiers or similar work?
I dont want to spent money on a new can if i dont have to, but it is pretty antisocial.
Any other tips?

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Tuesday 2nd July 21:15

[scorcher]

It’ll be the decat that will be causing most of the noise I expect. My 1290 with decat and an arrow can was pretty anti social. Thd std arrow baffle didn’t seem to make much difference .

[I am alright Jack]

Second hand original exhaust?

I know this doesn't help but I wont buy a bike without the original either fitted or comes with it.

[Krikkit]

Depends on the size of the can - a tiny can has limited ability for noise reduction with or without a baffle.

[Alex@POD]

If doesn't already have a baffle in, they're not a big purchase to try and see if it quietens it enough for your liking, before you consider bigger changes.

[bogie]

I have titanium arrow cans and straight through titanium manifold on my MV its fine with the baffles in, but too much with baffles out. The baffles slot in and out in 2 mins with just a single allen bolt.

First thing is to check if you have a baffle in or not, you should be able to see down the end of the can. If not they are about £40-50 and should quiet things down nicely.

Edited by bogie on Wednesday 3rd July 10:08

[OldGermanHeaps]

The baffle is out. I will measure it tonight and order a baffle, the noise of the thing is an embarrassment.
What possesses people to be such dheads on the road?
The can itself is a decent length so hopefully I can get it to a reasonable volume without breaking the bank

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Wednesday 3rd July 11:23

[Killboy]

With the baffle in it's no too bad. Find the baffle

[Krikkit]

OldGermanHeaps said:

The can itself is a decent length so hopefully I can get it to a reasonable volume without breaking the bank

Yep that should sound great with a baffle in, possibly a little quiet if my Monster's Arrow cans are a good example. I ended up cutting the baffle down slightly and drilling a couple of holes as it was quieter than the stock cans, I just wanted a little more character than the baffle allowed.

[Killboy]

Wow, small world. That was my bike. I owned it from new - IIRC sold it with around 14k miles on it.

When I sold it it had a baffle in, and I supplied the original exhaust to the new owner.

[SteveKTMer]

OldGermanHeaps said:

The baffle is out. I will measure it tonight and order a baffle, the noise of the thing is an embarrassment.
What possesses people to be such dheads on the road?

The can itself is a decent length so hopefully I can get it to a reasonable volume without breaking the bank

Most KTMs are pretty noisy even with the stock exhaust, you might find it better to buy a complete used, stock, exhaust from eBay. I don't know about your bike specifically, but the end can on the 1290 does very little hence the akro sounding only marginally different to the stock can. If you replace the cat and stock headers you end up with an obscenely loud knob rocket. You're right, it's just anti social and won't make the bike any faster.

[OldGermanHeaps]

Killboy said:

Wow, small world. That was my bike. I owned it from new - IIRC sold it with around 14k miles on it.

When I sold it it had a baffle in, and I supplied the original exhaust to the new owner.

Small world indeed.
Those bits are gone, but i did get the original spring with it, which i need to fix soon because its sprung for a midget just now.
Absolutely loving this thing. Just not liking riding up my street at midnight.

[Killboy]

I still think that bike was a fair bit stronger than any others I've ridden.

The extras I sold it with included
Tank bag and fuel tank ring
OE GPS mount
SW motech soft panniers and rack
Full arrow system - decat race headers and arrow (incl baffle)


I never ran it with off-road tires, always Conti trail attacks (OE), and it pretty much spent it's life with me cruising Europe especially down to Italy. It was absolutely mint when I sold it - only mark was a small dent in the side of the arrow exhaust.


Glad to see it still looks good.

[Hungrymc]

If you're fundamentally not keen on lots of noise, I think you'll want to refit cats.

Of course give the baffle a go first.

I've found most of my bikes a bit too much if they are de-cat even with baffles / DB killers. On the DB killers, I've had some nasty ebay cheapos that were horrible build quality. The OE ones are much more sturdy than the really cheap ones.

[OldGermanHeaps]

Exhaust is still there, the luggage and nav mount is gone, but it has a few other extras, engine case guards, magura clutch master and slave, bigger barkbusters and some other bits and bobs. Pretty clean and runs sweet. On 38k now but doesn't feel it. Going to be well looked after, but ridden hard.
Just pot my topbox and milwaukee packout mouning plate on it, taking it to work on friday.

[OldGermanHeaps]

I reckon it will need to be an original arrow baffle, as the pipe curves roughly 30 degrees down after the end, and universal cheap baffles are just straight, would that be right?
I have a calibrated spl meter for testing fire alarms,
I will do before and afters.
Killboy you wouldn't happen to still have any paperwork for the exhaust so I know exactly what part number the system is so I can order a genuine baffle?

Cant stop grinning. This thing is a lot of fun.
Ordered a touring screen, and a nav mount, fitted better mirrors, and enjoyed a few childish wheelies.
Tc and mtc is useful with all this summer rain, but you need to turn them off to keep the front up though.

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Wednesday 3rd July 20:15

[Crudeoink]

Get the Part number for the OE baffle and buy one or email arrow and see if you can buy one direct. My KTM is slightly louder than OEM with the baffle in, but would wake the dead with it out. It's the most effective baffle I've ever had on a bike in fairness

[Killboy]

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Bought from BR SPECIAL TUNING LIMITED

Looks like their website is gone sadly.

But it's standard arrow can, I'm sure contacting arrow will help.

Like: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164171908734?mkcid=16&a...

[Killboy]

This "looks" right, but no guarantees - going to have to contact them I think and perhaps measure the diameter

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183468776549?mkcid=16&a...

[OldGermanHeaps]

Thanks. Part number for the original baffle is 5930023
£69 plus delivery. Seems a bit steep for a metal tube. I might try an aftermarket one if i cant find one for sensible money.