RE: Nissan 350Z | Spotted

RE: Nissan 350Z | Spotted

Monday 1st July

Nissan 350Z | Spotted

Might the original 21st-century Zed be the next Japanese collectable?


Perhaps nothing makes the mid-'00s seem longer ago than the abundant availability of coupes around at the time. Where now we have to accept that the sporty two-door is effectively a relic of the old days (Ford Mustang and BMW 2 Series notwithstanding), back then there was a plethora of options. Once upon a time, Alfa Romeo was selling both a GT and a Brera, for example. The first BMW Z4 was offered as a very entertaining hot-rod hardtop, the second Audi TT was better than it’s probably given credit for, the Vauxhall Monaro was there for a more muscular option and don’t forget the Mazda RX-8, either, for those with a family (and a very generous fuel allowance). 

The Nissan 350Z was yet another contender in a very busy segment and was never far from contention in the group tests it faced. There hasn’t been a Zed car in the UK for a decade by the time of the 350’s arrival, and evoking the heritage of the 240 - large, naturally aspirated six-cylinder engine, manual gearbox, rear-drive - certainly helped with the initial success. Its brawny good looks will have played a part, too. And if not the sharpest sports car in the world to drive, its muscle-car-with-manners approach won it more fans. All for not very much money, either, priced from around £25k. 

The 350 enjoyed good popularity in its half a dozen years on sale, and the 370Z that replaced it never quite captured the imagination in the same way despite so much shared. Partly that’ll be timing, of course: a 25mpg sports car made a lot more sense in 2003 than it did in 2009. With quite a few sold in that time and without special models, the 350 became really cheap over time - many were drifted, tracked, or made into Fast & Furious replicas. Trying to find a good coupe more than 20 years from launch isn’t quite as easy as might be hoped for. 

An interesting conundrum, then, because arguably the appeal increases by the day. The Zed still looks great, and the simplicity of a big V6 powering an RWD sports car surely sounds preferable to forced induction and four driven wheels when looking at a modern classic. It was always quite old school in approach even in the mid-'00s, so now it’ll be a proper throwback. Hopefully quite a charming one. 

This 350Z is an intriguing one as a proper collector-grade example. The current owner purchased the Nissan in 2020, the previous keeper having dry-stored it for nine years; it was lightly recommissioned back then with fresh fluids, belts and an exhaust. Since then it’s covered just 1,500 miles, still in proper storage if not on the road. Now showing just over 60,000 miles, it’s one of the best-looking Zeds we’ve seen in a while. Where you now expect to see less-than-perfect bodywork and sub-par interiors, this is properly smart. 

Some might want a Zed without any add-ons for maximum collectability, but it seems hard to grumble with genuine NISMO parts that have been there since new. Especially when they look this good. There’s said to be a wealth of main dealer history, plus a fluid refresh 300 miles ago. Probably not the 350 to go honing your drift skills with, then, but one with many more years of entertainment left in the tank. With the price of certain Japanese classics being what they are, maybe £15k isn’t mad either. And it’ll still look good in another 20 years.


SPECIFICATION | NISSAN 350Z

Engine: 3,498cc, V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 268@4,800rpm
MPG: 24.8
CO2: 273g/km
First registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 61,716
Price new: c. £25k
Yours for: £14,995

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Robertb

Original Poster:

1,612 posts

241 months

Always liked these, and this doesn’t seem mad money for a good quality one, though I don’t know the market.

86wasagoodyear

456 posts

99 months

Never warmed to these, always thought they were much heavier than they should be. Suddenly today though, 1500kg & £15k looks very tempting.

Ryan_T

233 posts

108 months

Had a couple of these, bookending much more expensive machinery. I really rate them, after some key changes like stiffer anti-roll bars, some decent suspension and a more aggressive alignment they really come alive and are a lot of dumb fun.

A really robust and reliable track car, drive to the track, hammer it all day, drive home and not dread it.

Weight can be removed to a limit, heavy stock seats replaced with buckets etc.

Obviously it’s no E46 M3, but for a less than a third of the cost it’s not only a third as fun. And not ruinous if it ends up in a tyre wall.



Edit: Like others have said, no one is spending £15k for one. 6-7k, 1-2k on mods and away you go.

Edited by Ryan_T on Monday 1st July 09:45

J4CKO

41,894 posts

203 months

15 grand, wow, have they gone up ?

My eldest bought one a couple of years back for 5 grand, same colour but a convertible. I had an identical one and they are pretty good, at the time I was yearning for an M135i, got one eventually and you know what, though the Z is a lot slower its just so much more engaging and enjoyable, steering feel is on another planet.

My lad will be selling his as has bought a Supercharged Monaro, will be a lot less than 15 grand, cloud cuckoo land I would say as there arent that many folk wanting 20 mpg and high VED, plus can get a 370Z for that, plus change, Monaro was about that, and there is a similarity in feel, albeit with more than double the power.


Jester86

447 posts

112 months

I really enjoyed the year I had with mine, nothing went wrong and probably one of the best stock exhaust notes from a car I've owned.

Definitely had that Japanese muscle car feeling, as it did feel weighty but more than happy to casually step the rear out in a controlled fashion. I've got to be careful or I'll talk myself into buying another.

Jermy Claxon

3,010 posts

142 months

No thanks.

At £5k, fine, knock yourself out. At £15k would you really walk past a 987 Cayman S to get to this? You'd have to really love cheap plastics, heavy cars and dull performance and handling.


sixor8

6,375 posts

271 months

I had a '55 reg GT manual version in grey with the Alezan orange seats from Dec. 2016 to April 2018 (last reg before the big VED jump). I paid £5250 private sale for it, a few tiny rust blemishes on the rear wheel arches but the previous owner had in the previous year had the wheels refurbished, and put new tyres all round and new rear silencers. smile I took it from 65k to nearly 68k miles and it was fun to drive. You really could feel its heft but it went great, a tad thirsty though. Had 1 service, sold it for £5700. Should have kept it? scratchchin

The only recurrent issue I had was the airbag light intermittently coming on. Switching the ignition on and off 5 times or so would reset it (Youtube tip). That, and the corrosion. frown On the forums, most say they are robust but they really aren't. My car had spent a lot of its time in the NE on salty roads. The crossmembers underneath rot away, and I spent £300 having the rear wheel arches sorted but it was starting to come back again (yes, I should have had it all cut out and replaced and not treated, but that would have been nearer £1k). The inner wings in the wheel arches front and back all had surface rust on them, thin paint here, and I slathered it all in black waxoyl to keep it at bay. The panels under the rear of the car had become wafer thin.

Rear hatch struts become weak (there's a fix using some small copper washers or 1p coins), and I remember having to faff about with a washer or two to get the fuel flap cover to align properly. rolleyes It's been SORN since Feb 2023 and has 89k miles on it now.

ETA: I admit I have found myself looking at them now and again but I've switched my preference to the 370Z. I test drove a 2019 one in 2020 but the headroom for me was tragic. The 370Z is one of the few cars to benefit from the VED rule change in 2017. Before April 2017, £735, after it, £190 because most of them were under £40k new. smile It matters when they get older....

January 2017:


Edited by sixor8 on Monday 1st July 09:06

J4CKO

41,894 posts

203 months

I think the feeling of heft with them is maybe in part actual weight, but also being told they are heavy, and the weight deliberately engineered into the controls.

Now, as we know, the Japanese can provide us with cars with featherlight steering, hair trigger brakes and knife through butter gearchanges, but that isnt the ethos with the 350Z, it sort of straddles the sports and muscle car genres.

I hadnt driven one for a while and had it in my head it would feel, old slow and gutless, but I had my lads for a couple of days as he nicked my (his old) Fiesta ST, and the Fiesta (its not standard) would leave it for dead but it was a pleasant surprise how enjoyable it was.

its funny, back when these came out, a 3,5 V7 with 280 ish bhp would be a bit of a beast, a big engine that people would see as having plenty of low down grunt, which it sort of has but with modern turbo stuff it seems a poor relation, you need to get it spinning to make meaningful progress, and when you do there is enough power to make it enjoyable.


Alias218

1,503 posts

165 months

I still thoroughly enjoy mine. Owned for over 10 years now and I’ve put 55,000 miles on it. Never really let me down. Late last year one of the radiator fan motors packed up. Replaced both and now as good as ever.

They’re not super fast, but then most stuff from early 2000s isn’t terribly quick these days in comparison to modern cars. For me it’s about the feel and weight of everything. I know exactly what the car is doing. I find they’re quick enough to be able to exploit their performance on public roads, without being so fast you’re left feeling frustrated by nuisance things like speed limits and traffic. Plus they look and sound great IMO.


daveco

4,153 posts

210 months

Have an old evo mag where this is pitted against the 330ci, 3.2 TT, Alfa 3.2 GT, Crossfire, Monaro, and RX8 in a group/lap test.

Came first, with the 330ci a close second.

Always thought they sounded epic.

Geoffcapes

746 posts

167 months

Always liked these, but never pulled the trigger on one. I suspect it's because there's so many other options at this price point.

C5_Steve

3,676 posts

106 months

I think it's important to remeber that 350Z's are nowhere near £15k so comparing this one to other stuff at the £15k is a little miss leading. This is the tippy top of prices for them and in all honestly I don't think the price is bad for this specific example. I've not seen one as clean for years, plus the Nismo options are worth a fair chunk on their own. For someone who loves 350Z's this is a great buy.

In general, the cars are probably hitting their low point price-wise. There are loads that are a little rough around the edges, haven't been looked after that well or have been heavily modified for track/drift work so I expect we'll see prices start to creep up for the average car in decent condition and fairly standard in the next few years. They're a lovely place to be, very relaxing to drive with a great ride and as other have said a feeling of "heft" behind everything including the power delivery. Great low down torque in every gear.

We have one and are about to get a few rust and corrosion spots treated and resprayed, there's not much around at their normal price point (around £6-£8k now for a decent one) to compare really.

parabolica

6,760 posts

187 months

Always preferred the looks of the 350 to the 370; I looked at a few in 2018 when I eventually ended up getting a Z4; only thing that put my off the 350 was the interiors in ever single car I saw had worn really badly.

RudeDog

1,654 posts

177 months

I had one of these back in the day. I bought a 2003 model in 2006 for £18k with 30k on the clock. This one is either well overpriced or they are starting to creep up.

There are faster, sportier, lighter, newer cars out there but the 350Z remains one of my all time favourite cars for ownership reasons. Mine was fairly young still when I had it but but the only thing I needed to spend money on in 3yrs of ownership and 50k miles was a replacement backbox (for £80).

Still have a big soft spot for these.

dinkel

27,035 posts

261 months

Robust cars and great engine: back in the day I thought these were budget 911 buys.

andy43

9,880 posts

257 months

Another dad had one of those for the school run about ten years ago. Epic noise. Five grand or so for a cheap tax one isn’t bad - it’s a lot of entertainment for the money.

Phils-Fast

98 posts

71 months

My wife has had 2 of these. great cars, i had my mk4 supra n/a at the same time and they felt very similar to drive. Great noise and with a few mods can be good fun.

it says in the article that no limited edition version cars, the yellow one is a GT4, limited run in either yellow or black. Largely the same as a gt spec car but with different wheels and a slight lift in power.





cerb4.5lee

31,426 posts

183 months

I've had my 370Z Roadster for over 5 years now and I still absolutely love it. These are my type of car really I think. I remember racing a 350Z years ago on the motorway in my mildly tuned(around 250bhp) 200SX, and the 350Z had the legs on me at high speed. Although weirdly they never actually feel at that quick to drive though for some reason.

I took a brand new 350Z Roadster to a cheeky 130 back in 2006, I really liked it to drive. I just like the whole Nissan Z car vibe for sure.


cerb4.5lee

31,426 posts

183 months

J4CKO said:
its funny, back when these came out, a 3,5 V7 with 280 ish bhp would be a bit of a beast, a big engine that people would see as having plenty of low down grunt, which it sort of has but with modern turbo stuff it seems a poor relation, you need to get it spinning to make meaningful progress, and when you do there is enough power to make it enjoyable.
It always amazes me at how torquey the 370 feels for a NA engine, especially in comparison to the V8 M3 I had. It also seems to do its best work in the mid range as well I think. Revving it right out isn't as explosive as the M3 was in comparison for example.

On paper the 370 doesn't look like it has much torque(270Ib/ft), but it feels like it has more than that to drive though for me.

Wheel Turned Out

676 posts

41 months

Seems like a pretty good buy to me.