RE: Yuppie-tastic Maserati BiTurbo Spyder for sale

RE: Yuppie-tastic Maserati BiTurbo Spyder for sale

Sunday 30th June

Yuppie-tastic Maserati BiTurbo Spyder for sale

Clear skies got you in the mood for a classic cab? Boy, do we have the car...


There’s nothing to beat a cabrio in the sunshine, right? As long as it’s not too hot, of course. Little can combat stress quite like balmy weather, a retracted roof and a warmed-up combustion engine. Some drop tops suffer from a lack of torsional rigidity, yes, but it’s hard to sweat the serious stuff when relaxing. If it’s not meant to be a sports car, don’t worry so much. 

Take the Maserati BiTurbo Spyder as a perfect example. As a 35-year-old soft top built from saloon underpinnings, it’s not going to provide a scalpel-sharp driving experience. But look at it - a car dismissed for so long now seems like a really cool retro ragtop. Or perhaps the heat really is taking its toll now. Rust and reliability meant the BiTurbo has almost always been infamous - we all know that. But the logic behind the project made complete sense; with the German manufacturers branching out into smaller saloons, Maserati would emulate the move. The BiTurbo boasted rear-wheel drive, six-cylinder power and a sumptuous interior - what more did a compact saloon for the '80s need?

Despite architecture that lasted all the way up to 1997, nothing built from the BiTurbo sold in huge numbers. This was never great news for a Maserati with big aspirations at the end of the 20th century, but it makes the survivors really interesting after the fact. To some of us, at least - not everyone wants a 3 Series cabrio…

The BiTurbo Spyder was notable for a few reasons. It was the first convertible Maser since the Ghibli Spyder, and assembled by Zagato - its first involvement with the Trident since the A6G/2000 30 years beforehand. It rode on a shorter wheelbase than the coupe (114mm less), which did mean it was only a two-seat cabrio, but the chop helped the looks. And let’s not forget what’s important.

As a 1988 car, this BiTurbo Spyder has been spared the later facelifts, and is showing just 40,000 miles. It’s the more powerful 2.5-litre V6 turbo (the 2.8 didn’t come until later for this model), with almost 200hp, and has the manual gearbox as well. The interior, complete with ruched leather and gold clock, has survived like the most wonderful time capsule. Bring your brightest braces.

Described as ‘Italian craftsmanship at its finest’ in the advert, the asking price is £20k. There’s rarity on its side as well, with just 122 of the larger engined cars ever made. And you can guarantee that number will be a lot less a third of a century later. Probably it’ll need more careful upkeep than a 325i or old SL, but after so much time maybe the BiTurbo deserves some reappreciation. Summer sojourns will never be the same again - and fortune, as ever, favours the brave.


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Benzinaio

Original Poster:

107 posts

5 months

Who doesn't love a fanny shaped clock eh?
I love these. Don't think I'd be brave enough though.

Motormouth88

279 posts

63 months

Fantastic, thought it was going to be a lot more than 20k

DonkeyApple

56,562 posts

172 months

Motormouth88 said:
Fantastic, thought it was going to be a lot more than 20k
It will be. Don't worry. biggrin

Buzzfan

122 posts

197 months

The Biturbos, fhc & spider, are what I think of as “Nearly” cars - nearly perfect, but alas not.

Discreetly styled in the post-kidnapping Italian era, I didn’t feel the looks were quite as exotic as a Maserati should have been - they could so easily have been Lancias or Alfa Romeos. The spider is still pretty to me, unlike the fhc - i was tempted a decade ago but too cautious. I’m sure if well maintained by top specialists, at some cost, they would be great.

I’ve never driven one, my brother in law borrowed one for a week on trial and said it didn’t give him handling confidence - he preferred his 2002tii and 325i and found the power a bit peaky,

My neighbour had one of these in the late 90’s - there was no chance hers would have achieved 40,000 miles - she gave up after 2 years of repetitive minor breakdowns, mostly electric I recall.

We Brits have had many such nearly cars - rushed to market without sufficient development - Dolomite Sprints and Stags etc spring to mind - it’s a shame for all the Biturbos didn’t quite get it right but thankfully Maserati lives on today and didn’t suffer the fate of Triumph etc

Edited by Buzzfan on Sunday 30th June 08:22

Motormouth88

279 posts

63 months

DonkeyApple said:
Motormouth88 said:
Fantastic, thought it was going to be a lot more than 20k
It will be. Don't worry. biggrin
I did think that after I posted that foolish comment biggrin

Earl of Petrol

515 posts

125 months

Looks good in the pictures. In fact when I first opened the page and glanced at the rear three quarter pic I thought it was an E30 3 series.
However this has far more ruinous potential than its Bavarian rival. Money pit might not cover it….

Nick Forest

34 posts

86 months

Beautiful but it’ll empty your wallet quicker than a Vegas hooker…

DonkeyApple

56,562 posts

172 months

Motormouth88 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Motormouth88 said:
Fantastic, thought it was going to be a lot more than 20k
It will be. Don't worry. biggrin
I did think that after I posted that foolish comment biggrin
There's something lovely about these cars. Would be great to have one in the garage to use for summer pub and lunch runs but you just know that if you did you'd be either ordering a Deliveroo because you never left home, having another picnic by the side of the road or calling an Uber to get you home from lunch.

Heart says this but head says e30 325i convertible is the car that does the same summer pub run job, maybe with less flare but much more function.

KEF

55 posts

185 months

Seems a bit of a weird advert to me, next to nothing said about the condition, about thirty photos of the seats, but none showing the condition of the hood or engine bay (or underneath for that matter, assuming it’s not rusted away by now).
Think the SL comparison would be a much better bet.

J4CKO

41,894 posts

203 months

Hmm, it’s quite nice but so close looks wise to an E30.

Plus, you know it’s likely going to be a nightmare and a bit rubbish, big load of nope for me.


birdcage

2,847 posts

208 months

They give you 20k to take it off their hands?

Athlon

5,073 posts

209 months

the text for that article needs checking! States it is the larger 2.5 version rather than the 2.8!

It looks to be a 2.5, these were not the best, they used a 'blow through' carb in a sealed plenum (rather than the 2.8's fuel injection) and suffered from tiny bits of boost pipe getting stuck in the air jets, upgrading to silicon pipes helps.

Positives include single 'shot gun' exhaust that with a well set up engine gave the pops and crackles (and occasional flame) that modern tuners try and fail to replicate, no heated rear window so half the electrical problems with the fuse box won't happen.

Negatives were mainly the carb issues, the single worst car for scuttle shake I have ever driven, rear lower suspension arms corroded away , rust, especially the front wings, useless parking brake (we did get them working better) buzzing gear stick (also partially solved) and cam box gaskets leaking and dripping oil onto the exhaust manifolds (never had one go alight but many smoked a lot!) a difficult one to resolve and a big job to change.

A 222e was twice the car (except for that exhaust note)

Edit to add: You could not drop the roof for a winter icy top down thrash because the rear plastic window would shatter or split! You always had to be super careful lowering the roof.

Edited by Athlon on Sunday 30th June 08:54

DaveCWK

2,027 posts

177 months

mmm Sort of want.
Did they sit that high as standard? Or is this fitted with springs from a different model.

Jordie Barretts sock

5,065 posts

22 months

Oh, I so would. That is gorgeous.

But I know I'd be throwing money at it like a herion addict after their next fix.

Athlon

5,073 posts

209 months

DaveCWK said:
mmm Sort of want.
Did they sit that high as standard? Or is this fitted with springs from a different model.
They did, the 2.8 version was lower but then they had issues with the engine striking objects on the road as it is very low in the chassis, if you were lucky it would crack the sump which was is a flat plate and quick to swap, unlucky and it would crack the lower crank case at the A/C/ pump boss.

Rough101

1,904 posts

78 months

These make a lot of sense these days, they never did as a daily driver, you can’t expect the same development depth as something built in the hundreds of thousands, but the drawbacks are few for high days and holidays use, as long as you remember it’s an exotic and budget accordingly, ideally you can also attend to small jobs before they become big ones.

mart4856

64 posts

27 months

The money pit of all money pits. What could possibly not go wrong? If you must scratch that convertible itch, the decent ones can be found from £500 upwards as long as you are not fussy or snobbish.

Cars such as a Vauxhall Tigra, Ford streetKa, Renault wind, Ford Focus CC, VW Eos etc will on the right road and day being you almost bring you the same level of happiness without burning a huge hole in your pocket.

NathanChadwick

310 posts

44 months

mart4856 said:
Cars such as a Vauxhall Tigra, Ford streetKa, Renault wind, Ford Focus CC, VW Eos etc will on the right road and day being you almost bring you the same level of happiness without burning a huge hole in your pocket.
I’ve run out of palm to face.

Pughmacher

381 posts

46 months

mart4856 said:
The money pit of all money pits. What could possibly not go wrong? If you must scratch that convertible itch, the decent ones can be found from £500 upwards as long as you are not fussy or snobbish.

Cars such as a Vauxhall Tigra, Ford streetKa, Renault wind, Ford Focus CC, VW Eos etc will on the right road and day being you almost bring you the same level of happiness without burning a huge hole in your pocket.
I see where you are coming from sort of and it takes all sorts. But it’s not the point at all really in my view. No Tigra is ever going to be a substitute for a Maserati. Doubt you’re scratching an itch buying this. Unless that itch is for an Italian convertible with a certain panache (if not quite managing to add ability and reliability into the mix).

ducnick

1,850 posts

246 months

The change to intercooling and fuel injection undoubtedly made them a better car and easier to live with. (The carb fed cars would struggle to do 20mpg) But… later cars lost the sound of the earlier 2.5 carb cars. This will sound amazing, which is lest face it half of the battle. By modern standards it will be slow and wallowing and drink super unleaded like it’s going out of style. But if it’s used sparingly on summer days, what better way to travel. I would prefer this to an MG B or mx5. Seeing the flames in the mirror at night as you change down the gears is pretty special, and that dog leg gearbox is a joy to use. Is it worth £20k? No of course not, it’s worth 1/2 that to the right person at auction.

I had the coupe version with the same engine which I ran as a daily for 7 yrs. bought as a bit of a rusty wreck/roling restoration project but fell for its charms and kept it for about 50k miles. Mine was no less reliable than a friends 325i of the same vintage. Very similar cars in terms of size and performance. His car was easier to run mind as you didn’t need to develop a sixth sense to set the Weber up before sealing it in the pelumn chamber and totally altering the fuelling at every service…. If memory serves the recommended service interval was 3k or maybe 5k miles because the turbos had a tendency to cook the oil. You had to use the really expensive Castrol RS too to withstand the heat.

I know it can be hard to tell from low res photos … but I would be checking for filler on the bottoms of the doors and cills. Also round the headlights where all biturbos rust no matter what.



Edited by ducnick on Sunday 30th June 10:31