Is the latest Porsche 911 GT3 RS also the greatest? Video.
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This one has no frunk and the carbon roll cage makes it very hard to access any space in the back with the 918 seats …
The extra aero is useful at useless speeds on the road and the extra complexity could be a future question mark …
But if going fast on track is your bag and you have the experience and skills to make use of or maybe even flatter the optimum pace … YES !
The extra aero is useful at useless speeds on the road and the extra complexity could be a future question mark …
But if going fast on track is your bag and you have the experience and skills to make use of or maybe even flatter the optimum pace … YES !
ChrisW. said:
This one has no frunk and the carbon roll cage makes it very hard to access any space in the back with the 918 seats …
The extra aero is useful at useless speeds on the road and the extra complexity could be a future question mark …
But if going fast on track is your bag and you have the experience and skills to make use of or maybe even flatter the optimum pace … YES !
After a couple of days driving one in anger courtesy of Porsche at Barcelona, what surprised me is how accessable the performance is and the car is actually very forgiving at the limit and how much you can push the car within a handful of laps.Very confidence inspiring, the e diff was the stand out feature for me.The extra aero is useful at useless speeds on the road and the extra complexity could be a future question mark …
But if going fast on track is your bag and you have the experience and skills to make use of or maybe even flatter the optimum pace … YES !
Agreed - the ability to tweak the diff to suit what one might want from the car is a really neat feature of the car and for me, far more directly relevant/ than being able to mess around with suspension settings like rebound/compression which for the cack-handed and clueless like me, that stuff is kinda way over my head and best left alone but the mucking about with the diff actually is quite intuitive and useful. The car was pretty outstanding as far as a 'modern' electronically heavy sorts car is concerned but I suppose that's also hardly a surprise.
I was lucky enough to own a 964 RS for 10 years and had a few friends with the 993 RS, I had one for a week and although it was great I was at the time very happy to get back into the 964, my 964 RS felt tighter sharper and I preferred it. In a actual fact I was quite happy to give the 993 RS back, I wasn't a fan of it at the time, it surprisingly felt softer and less focussed
Objectively the new car is the best: faster, more accessible, more tweakable. BUT soon enough a new one will be along that does all those things a bit better. The 993 will always be what it is now and I think if I was having just one it would be that. I'd own a 992 for a while to experience it then move on but the 993 is a lifetime car.
It's interesting that, in the acid test of ownership, owning both 992 GT3 and also RS, TIm Harvey chose the former. Could be the overs, but he also felt the RS was just 'more' than he needed.
If he was really into overs, he'd have flipped his previous car, 991.2 GT3 RS. We can skip the bit where we ponder his driving skills, as they are well known and not likely the slightest factor in the decision.
I can see two sides to this, in terms of track day cars. The horsepower arms race means that, although skill can trump raw power, slow drivers in fast cars (yes, I am talking to you if you were driving a white McLaren at Silverston on Monday) are far, far less of an issue. You then get to the very personal and complex discussion of driver involvement and simply saying 'manual trumps PDK' is b
ks. They are just different, as are all the layers of tech and development.
If he was really into overs, he'd have flipped his previous car, 991.2 GT3 RS. We can skip the bit where we ponder his driving skills, as they are well known and not likely the slightest factor in the decision.
I can see two sides to this, in terms of track day cars. The horsepower arms race means that, although skill can trump raw power, slow drivers in fast cars (yes, I am talking to you if you were driving a white McLaren at Silverston on Monday) are far, far less of an issue. You then get to the very personal and complex discussion of driver involvement and simply saying 'manual trumps PDK' is b
ks. They are just different, as are all the layers of tech and development.I do think at the GT3 and RS level of Porsche it's a personal choice. In many ways the quicker it is the easier it is, but the less opportunity you get to really try hard and really drive it to the limit on the road. I have a 991.1 GT3 and a tweaked 997.2 3.6 manual and I can see the attraction of both in slightly different ways. the GT3 is unequivocally the better car. But even though I have only had the 997 for 12m and the GT3 for 6 years for some reason I have 'bonded' quicker and possibly more with the 997.
Perhaps for me it's economics, I can afford to enjoy the 997.2, the GT3 is a bit too precious a lot of the time. Both are quick enough to have fun with for me, I like working harder in the 997.2 with a stiff linkage and manual.
Perhaps for me it's economics, I can afford to enjoy the 997.2, the GT3 is a bit too precious a lot of the time. Both are quick enough to have fun with for me, I like working harder in the 997.2 with a stiff linkage and manual.
Digga said:
It's interesting that, in the acid test of ownership, owning both 992 GT3 and also RS, TIm Harvey chose the former. Could be the overs, but he also felt the RS was just 'more' than he needed.
If he was really into overs, he'd have flipped his previous car, 991.2 GT3 RS. We can skip the bit where we ponder his driving skills, as they are well known and not likely the slightest factor in the decision.
I can see two sides to this, in terms of track day cars. The horsepower arms race means that, although skill can trump raw power, slow drivers in fast cars (yes, I am talking to you if you were driving a white McLaren at Silverston on Monday) are far, far less of an issue. You then get to the very personal and complex discussion of driver involvement and simply saying 'manual trumps PDK' is bks. They are just different, as are all the layers of tech and development.
Just starting to explore my new manuel,love it so far and much more engaging than the 2019 rs and have not even got to 9k yet.The gears could do with stacking closer together,ride & grip quality is great.If he was really into overs, he'd have flipped his previous car, 991.2 GT3 RS. We can skip the bit where we ponder his driving skills, as they are well known and not likely the slightest factor in the decision.
I can see two sides to this, in terms of track day cars. The horsepower arms race means that, although skill can trump raw power, slow drivers in fast cars (yes, I am talking to you if you were driving a white McLaren at Silverston on Monday) are far, far less of an issue. You then get to the very personal and complex discussion of driver involvement and simply saying 'manual trumps PDK' is b
ks. They are just different, as are all the layers of tech and development.The new club sprint series you get a 2% penalty if pdk
Any of you guys doing another silverstone anytime.
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