Mismatching tyres on front axle of 320D
Discussion
Hi folks,
Just looking for a bit of advice.
I've recently had quite a bit of work done on a 320D (2011) I purchased recently. This included buying a full set of new tyres. After 2 weeks I somehow managed to get a nail in the tyre sidewall. Something I didn't notice until the vehicle was getting some work done to the suspension at a national chain garage (I dont want to name and shame them). The garage let me know about the nail and said they would change it and add it to the bill.
Now I was washing the car today and I've noticed they fit a winter tyre. Why they fit a winter tyre I have absolutely no idea as all other tyres on the vehicle are summer tyres.
I have always been of the opinion that you shouldn't be mixing tyres like this on an axle (winter/summer). It's fitted to the OSF and the car is RWD but I still feel like they shouldn't have put a winter tyre on, especially not without asking or telling me first.
Am I wrong on this?
My biggest concern is that the work that was being done by this garage was being done at a discounted rate after I made a formal complaint when another of their stores provided me with some dodgy reports. The area manager ended up getting involved and it was this area manager whom let me know that the tyre needed replacing. He quoted me for all the work which came to £700 (including the new tyre). So it's not like it was small change. But now I'm fuming that I've noticed they have put this winter tyre on the driver front when all the other tyres are summer.
NSF OSR NSR have 225/45/17 94w summer tyres fitted. Then the OSF is 225/45/91v M+S winter tyre (it has the mud and snow markings and the snowflake symbol to signal it is a winter tyre). I'm not as worried about the fact that they have downgraded the speed/load rating to 91V as 91V is oem fitment. But surely if you were going to have a winter tyre it should only be fitted with 2 on the same axle and given its RWD surely they would go on the rear not the front as you could have traction control issues in snow/ice.
Any opinions on this would be helpful.
Thanks
Just looking for a bit of advice.
I've recently had quite a bit of work done on a 320D (2011) I purchased recently. This included buying a full set of new tyres. After 2 weeks I somehow managed to get a nail in the tyre sidewall. Something I didn't notice until the vehicle was getting some work done to the suspension at a national chain garage (I dont want to name and shame them). The garage let me know about the nail and said they would change it and add it to the bill.
Now I was washing the car today and I've noticed they fit a winter tyre. Why they fit a winter tyre I have absolutely no idea as all other tyres on the vehicle are summer tyres.
I have always been of the opinion that you shouldn't be mixing tyres like this on an axle (winter/summer). It's fitted to the OSF and the car is RWD but I still feel like they shouldn't have put a winter tyre on, especially not without asking or telling me first.
Am I wrong on this?
My biggest concern is that the work that was being done by this garage was being done at a discounted rate after I made a formal complaint when another of their stores provided me with some dodgy reports. The area manager ended up getting involved and it was this area manager whom let me know that the tyre needed replacing. He quoted me for all the work which came to £700 (including the new tyre). So it's not like it was small change. But now I'm fuming that I've noticed they have put this winter tyre on the driver front when all the other tyres are summer.
NSF OSR NSR have 225/45/17 94w summer tyres fitted. Then the OSF is 225/45/91v M+S winter tyre (it has the mud and snow markings and the snowflake symbol to signal it is a winter tyre). I'm not as worried about the fact that they have downgraded the speed/load rating to 91V as 91V is oem fitment. But surely if you were going to have a winter tyre it should only be fitted with 2 on the same axle and given its RWD surely they would go on the rear not the front as you could have traction control issues in snow/ice.
Any opinions on this would be helpful.
Thanks
I figured as much. I've always done things in pairs. But when the other tyre on the axle was only 2 weeks old at the time I found out the OSF had a nail in it. So I didnt really want to spend another £100 to replace a perfectly good 2 week old tyre. I trusted the garage to put something similar back on. But fitting one random winter tyre just seems ridiculous
This was recently discussed on the "Ask an MOT tester" thread.
Answer: "It’s legal and won’t fail, you can have 4 different types of tyres (summer,winter, semi slick and a M&S) and it’ll still pass, they just need to be the same size and type (cross ply / radial) across the axle."
You're sure it's a winter tyre, not an all-season one?
Answer: "It’s legal and won’t fail, you can have 4 different types of tyres (summer,winter, semi slick and a M&S) and it’ll still pass, they just need to be the same size and type (cross ply / radial) across the axle."
You're sure it's a winter tyre, not an all-season one?
320dbaby said:
Hi folks,
Just looking for a bit of advice.
I've recently had quite a bit of work done on a 320D (2011) I purchased recently. This included buying a full set of new tyres. After 2 weeks I somehow managed to get a nail in the tyre sidewall. Something I didn't notice until the vehicle was getting some work done to the suspension at a national chain garage (I dont want to name and shame them). The garage let me know about the nail and said they would change it and add it to the bill.
Now I was washing the car today and I've noticed they fit a winter tyre. Why they fit a winter tyre I have absolutely no idea as all other tyres on the vehicle are summer tyres.
I have always been of the opinion that you shouldn't be mixing tyres like this on an axle (winter/summer). It's fitted to the OSF and the car is RWD but I still feel like they shouldn't have put a winter tyre on, especially not without asking or telling me first.
Am I wrong on this?
My biggest concern is that the work that was being done by this garage was being done at a discounted rate after I made a formal complaint when another of their stores provided me with some dodgy reports. The area manager ended up getting involved and it was this area manager whom let me know that the tyre needed replacing. He quoted me for all the work which came to £700 (including the new tyre). So it's not like it was small change. But now I'm fuming that I've noticed they have put this winter tyre on the driver front when all the other tyres are summer.
NSF OSR NSR have 225/45/17 94w summer tyres fitted. Then the OSF is 225/45/91v M+S winter tyre (it has the mud and snow markings and the snowflake symbol to signal it is a winter tyre). I'm not as worried about the fact that they have downgraded the speed/load rating to 91V as 91V is oem fitment. But surely if you were going to have a winter tyre it should only be fitted with 2 on the same axle and given its RWD surely they would go on the rear not the front as you could have traction control issues in snow/ice.
Any opinions on this would be helpful.
Thanks
Always a big no no to run two different tyres on the same axle...Just looking for a bit of advice.
I've recently had quite a bit of work done on a 320D (2011) I purchased recently. This included buying a full set of new tyres. After 2 weeks I somehow managed to get a nail in the tyre sidewall. Something I didn't notice until the vehicle was getting some work done to the suspension at a national chain garage (I dont want to name and shame them). The garage let me know about the nail and said they would change it and add it to the bill.
Now I was washing the car today and I've noticed they fit a winter tyre. Why they fit a winter tyre I have absolutely no idea as all other tyres on the vehicle are summer tyres.
I have always been of the opinion that you shouldn't be mixing tyres like this on an axle (winter/summer). It's fitted to the OSF and the car is RWD but I still feel like they shouldn't have put a winter tyre on, especially not without asking or telling me first.
Am I wrong on this?
My biggest concern is that the work that was being done by this garage was being done at a discounted rate after I made a formal complaint when another of their stores provided me with some dodgy reports. The area manager ended up getting involved and it was this area manager whom let me know that the tyre needed replacing. He quoted me for all the work which came to £700 (including the new tyre). So it's not like it was small change. But now I'm fuming that I've noticed they have put this winter tyre on the driver front when all the other tyres are summer.
NSF OSR NSR have 225/45/17 94w summer tyres fitted. Then the OSF is 225/45/91v M+S winter tyre (it has the mud and snow markings and the snowflake symbol to signal it is a winter tyre). I'm not as worried about the fact that they have downgraded the speed/load rating to 91V as 91V is oem fitment. But surely if you were going to have a winter tyre it should only be fitted with 2 on the same axle and given its RWD surely they would go on the rear not the front as you could have traction control issues in snow/ice.
Any opinions on this would be helpful.
Thanks
Yes they'll go round as they should; but the handling characteristics can be fubar if they're very different
Get them swapped out; matching tyres fitted and sell the 2 tyres on eBay; someone will always have them
Personally, I would be speaking to the Manager that authorised the work & questioning why they didn't fit like-for-like rather than "just a tyre" a mix of winters & summers is a complete no-no the handling will be all over the place, especially if you were to drive it in snow etc.
Can you imagine what it would be like trying to drive a car with one tyre that has traction?
Can you imagine what it would be like trying to drive a car with one tyre that has traction?
It's 100% a winter tyre that has been fitted.
Bit of back story... when I had a new set of all 4 tyres this was done at a local indie tyre shop. The reason I went to a chain garage afterwards was purely because I had a lot of work done to the suspension, so I actually only went to this chain to have a safety check. When they did the safety check it turned out that they didn't actually do the check at all (at least not properly anyway). As a result I made a formal complaint that meant the area manager got involved who offered to retest the vehicle free of charge at a different branch which he would conduct personally. He found that some additional work was needed and quoted the work as parts only and labor free. I normally would never use a chain garage for work but given the price they quoted I agreed to go ahead.
So I don't think this chain supplies the tyre make i had fitted at my local tyre place. Which is why I presume they have just put on a random tyre. I'm not sure if they just had one left over winter tyre in the store that they wanted to get rid of, and given they were providing everything at cost my guess is they were hoping because I'm a woman I wouldn't notice. And in fairness, for a week I didn't notice. Its only when I've washed my car that I noticed the M+S markings along with the snowflake symbol.
I was always of the opinion that you shouldn't mix tyres on an axle so I just wanted clarification that my view was/is correct. Which given everyone's reply it appears as though I am correct. So Monday morning I'm going to call again and further complain.
Thanks everyone for your input.
Bit of back story... when I had a new set of all 4 tyres this was done at a local indie tyre shop. The reason I went to a chain garage afterwards was purely because I had a lot of work done to the suspension, so I actually only went to this chain to have a safety check. When they did the safety check it turned out that they didn't actually do the check at all (at least not properly anyway). As a result I made a formal complaint that meant the area manager got involved who offered to retest the vehicle free of charge at a different branch which he would conduct personally. He found that some additional work was needed and quoted the work as parts only and labor free. I normally would never use a chain garage for work but given the price they quoted I agreed to go ahead.
So I don't think this chain supplies the tyre make i had fitted at my local tyre place. Which is why I presume they have just put on a random tyre. I'm not sure if they just had one left over winter tyre in the store that they wanted to get rid of, and given they were providing everything at cost my guess is they were hoping because I'm a woman I wouldn't notice. And in fairness, for a week I didn't notice. Its only when I've washed my car that I noticed the M+S markings along with the snowflake symbol.
I was always of the opinion that you shouldn't mix tyres on an axle so I just wanted clarification that my view was/is correct. Which given everyone's reply it appears as though I am correct. So Monday morning I'm going to call again and further complain.
Thanks everyone for your input.
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