What is this car?

[RDMcG]

I expect it will take PH about a nanosecond to identify...seen in Italy, UK plates, central driver seat:

[ThunderSpook]

Tax checker says it’s a Gordon Murray T.50

[speedking31]

Gordon Murray Automotive on the number plate is a bit of a clue.

[RDMcG]

Many thanks!....

[samoht]

Presumably still a development car rather than a customer one at this stage.

Whereabouts in Italy did you see it? Anywhere near, say, Nardo? (In the heel of the country)

[h0b0]

I think you qualify to post in the “Super cars, spotted some rarities” thread with this one

[Mont Blanc]

I have lost a lot of interest in new supercars over the last 5 years or so, but even I'm surprised it wasn't recognised as a T50 given the mind boggling amount of coverage that car has had in the automotive press, YouTube, Goodwood, Top Gear, and everywhere else. It's been plastered all over PH's news pages about 20 times in the last 2 or 3 years.

But I suppose given the lack of appearances out there on the streets, it does still remain a bit on an enigma.

samoht said:

Presumably still a development car rather than a customer one at this stage.

Whereabouts in Italy did you see it? Anywhere near, say, Nardo? (In the heel of the country)

The car with reg PS02 FAN is one of the pre-production cars that has been used extensively for testing, journalists, etc.

They were supposed to be delivering customer cars during 2023 and had them all delivered 'by 2024' but everything seems to have gone silent and some furious googling doesn't bring up anything relating to cars now landing in the hands of customers, which seems odd.

[vikingaero]

Mont Blanc said:

I have lost a lot of interest in new supercars over the last 5 years or so, but even I'm surprised it wasn't recognised as a T50 given the mind boggling amount of coverage that car has had in the automotive press, YouTube, Goodwood, Top Gear, and everywhere else. It's been plastered all over PH's news pages about 20 times in the last 2 or 3 years.

But I suppose given the lack of appearances out there on the streets, it does still remain a bit on an enigma.

samoht said:

Presumably still a development car rather than a customer one at this stage.

Whereabouts in Italy did you see it? Anywhere near, say, Nardo? (In the heel of the country)

The car with reg PS02 FAN is one of the pre-production cars that has been used extensively for testing, journalists, etc.

They were supposed to be delivering customer cars during 2023 and had them all delivered 'by 2024' but everything seems to have gone silent and some furious googling doesn't bring up anything relating to cars now landing in the hands of customers, which seems odd.

I think with the plethora of supercars over the years, it's been easy, even as an enthusiast, to get very blase over the same mould used for many of them.

When I first glanced at that picture I thought it would be an Ascari kit car.

[Funk]

At first glance I thought it was a Ferrari 360...

[TIGA84]

Mont Blanc said:

I have lost a lot of interest in new supercars over the last 5 years or so, but even I'm surprised it wasn't recognised as a T50 given the mind boggling amount of coverage that car has had in the automotive press, YouTube, Goodwood, Top Gear, and everywhere else. It's been plastered all over PH's news pages about 20 times in the last 2 or 3 years.

But I suppose given the lack of appearances out there on the streets, it does still remain a bit on an enigma.

samoht said:

Presumably still a development car rather than a customer one at this stage.

Whereabouts in Italy did you see it? Anywhere near, say, Nardo? (In the heel of the country)

The car with reg PS02 FAN is one of the pre-production cars that has been used extensively for testing, journalists, etc.

They were supposed to be delivering customer cars during 2023 and had them all delivered 'by 2024' but everything seems to have gone silent and some furious googling doesn't bring up anything relating to cars now landing in the hands of customers, which seems odd.

I think Andy74B owns (or will own) this pre prod car, given his Insta postings.

I've seen two delivered, JayKay being one, and another guy also on Instagram has just got his. I think he's on here as well

[E63eeeeee...]

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

[dvs_dave]

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

I agree. Big clunky looking thing.

Not sure why low volume/exotic manufacturers seemingly make no effort to conceal the wipers. Looks so crap. Every time it’s clearly a half arsed afterthought. Volume manufacturers have no problem doing it so it’s not like it’s some major engineering challenge. Just lazy, poor design processes.

[VSKeith]

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

It's in keeping with the rest of the car

[SpudLink]

dvs_dave said:

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

I agree. Big clunky looking thing.

Not sure why low volume/exotic manufacturers seemingly make no effort to conceal the wipers. Looks so crap. Every time it’s clearly a half arsed afterthought. Volume manufacturers have no problem doing it so it’s not like it’s some major engineering challenge. Just lazy, poor design processes.

I doubt the windscreen wiper would be an afterthought for Gordon Murray. Designing wipers that work on a car doing > 200mph must have been a big part of the F1 development. Time and effort would have been put into making it work properly on the GMA developed cars.

[vikingaero]

SpudLink said:

dvs_dave said:

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

I agree. Big clunky looking thing.

Not sure why low volume/exotic manufacturers seemingly make no effort to conceal the wipers. Looks so crap. Every time it’s clearly a half arsed afterthought. Volume manufacturers have no problem doing it so it’s not like it’s some major engineering challenge. Just lazy, poor design processes.

I doubt the windscreen wiper would be an afterthought for Gordon Murray. Designing wipers that work on a car doing > 200mph must have been a big part of the F1 development. Time and effort would have been put into making it work properly on the GMA developed cars.

I agree. That is pantograph porn!

[Lord_Howit_Hertz]

TIGA84 said:

I think Andy74B owns (or will own) this pre prod car, given his Insta postings.

I've seen two delivered, JayKay being one, and another guy also on Instagram has just got his. I think he's on here as well

I think you are right, This is Andy's car, and the other car besides Franchitti and Jaykays is Wopums who is a PH'er (the Silver car).

[LeighW]

Funk said:

At first glance I thought it was a Ferrari 360...

I thought it was a Mk 3 MR2.

[thegreenhell]

SpudLink said:

dvs_dave said:

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

I agree. Big clunky looking thing.

Not sure why low volume/exotic manufacturers seemingly make no effort to conceal the wipers. Looks so crap. Every time it’s clearly a half arsed afterthought. Volume manufacturers have no problem doing it so it’s not like it’s some major engineering challenge. Just lazy, poor design processes.

I doubt the windscreen wiper would be an afterthought for Gordon Murray. Designing wipers that work on a car doing > 200mph must have been a big part of the F1 development. Time and effort would have been put into making it work properly on the GMA developed cars.

Yep, it works really well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84p9oVFXTmE

[Cold]

thegreenhell said:

Yep, it works really well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84p9oVFXTmE

Thoroughly engineered. Luckily wiper blades with little aero spoilers attached are still available from Halfords.

[RDMcG]

samoht said:

Presumably still a development car rather than a customer one at this stage.

Whereabouts in Italy did you see it? Anywhere near, say, Nardo? (In the heel of the country)

Lecce