McLaren 675LT or 765LT

[Rocketreid]

I had the opportunity to drive a 675LT back to back with a 765LT yesterday

765 was a Coupe while the 675 was a Spider.

Have driven a few 675’s but not recently, it still impresses with its overall on road composure, although no opportunity to track them side by side but will attempt this once weather improves.

The advances in the 765LT are easily apparent by just attempting to sit in it. The Monocage 2 is a big step forward for the cabin and the steering and turning circle are better. Dash is more modern but some folks may prefer the analogue of a 675LT

Both feel well planted and able to deal with the UK’s crap roads, although the 765LT is better.

Big difference is in performance, although not unexpected as the 720’s monsters the 675.

While the 3.8l 675 is a great engine the 4.0l is an improvement, particularly its torque, pulling from low revs and higher gears far better.

The 765 has staggering performance and would require SF90 power to compete.

The 765LT has taken on a new level of performance and while the 675 remains a great car in the same vein as the 458 Speciale is, a Pista and a 765 LT imo are ultimately that bit more, but at an additional price for the 765LT over the 675

Edited by Rocketreid on Saturday 2nd March 20:05

[Streetbeat]

The game moves on, Mclaren would have to hang their heads in shame if their latest (and probably last) ice motored LT car didnt better its predecessor.

Looks and interior styling are just subjective, the 765 had to be better and faster and from what i have read it is, by a good margin.

[SSO]

We own both and have no plans to part with either. While the 765LT has moved the game along significantly, as a car for a perfect, great, weekend drive, it's still the 675LT Spider keys that I grab.

[Bispal]

I haven't driven a 765LT so perhaps I am not qualified to comment.

But I have owned my 675LT for 4 years and can state, without a shadow of doubt, its fast enough, has unreal levels of grip & composure, feels 'old skool' analogue yet is bang up to date quick & looks stunning.

It's enough for me that I have no desire to try a 765LT, to my eyes its not as graceful (its trying a bit too hard aesthetically) and I don't feel the desire / need for anything faster.

The 675LT looks classy & timeless, it has a beautiful interior with proper analogue style dials. The P1 seats are super comfy and everything works, no issues in 4 years and 13k miles. Plus the 675LT is a whole lot cheaper.

Quite a few 675LT owners I know traded in for a 765LT and almost everyone has sold and gone back the the 675LT. Unless you MUST have the latest and greatest the 675LT appears to be the connoisseurs choice.

The 675LT had a lot of changes over the 650S, I think 60% of the parts where different and 50% of the engine. The 765LT is about 10% (or less - someone might be able to confirm - but its much less). This makes it a much more of a different car and to me a little bit more special.

I am sure the 765LT is an amazing drive, but I very much doubt it would convince me to part with my 675LT. If you like how the 765LT looks, over the 675LT, then why not. You can always trade in for a 675LT later

[HIS LM]

Great to hear feedback from real life owners, I had a choice between the 2 cars and went for a 675 purely on old school looks and although the 765 is faster, living in London with all the speed cameras and potholes there was no point in chasing the ten tenths performance improvement.

Out of interest does anyone have a 675 price list with options, my car is heavily optioned and would love to know how much it cost.

[Bispal]

HIS LM said:

Out of interest does anyone have a 675 price list with options, my car is heavily optioned and would love to know how much it cost.

here you go, for spider anyway....

[shabster]

Not owned a 765 - I do like its aggressive looks and updated tech - but I’ve owned my 675LT since mid 2020 and without doubt the most fun, always special car I own.

I have some other things alongside that are fun in their own way - but I’ve decided I’ll always keep my 675 as nothing gives me as much confidence to drive or as much fun. I’ve done 12k of my own miles in it and growing - every one a grin !

Edited by shabster on Wednesday 6th March 22:54

[HIS LM]

Many thanks Bispal, as luck would have it my car is a spider, who wants to play the how much did it cost game ?

A goody bag for the winner.

Full spec listed below as discussed.

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WB9901TPMS : Tyre Pressure Monitoring System

[Wheelspinning]

I still have the original invoice for mines, and it was £337k.

I'm guessing your somewhere around that....

[HIS LM]

I got to £340k but can't work out if the carbon fibre louvres £11.8k and c/f air brake £5.3k are included in the CS professional pack £17k or over and above

[Terminator X]

Just out of interest can you really notice the power difference between models? They must all be monsters.

TX.

[Wheelspinning]

Terminator X said:

Just out of interest can you really notice the power difference between models? They must all be monsters.

TX.

Tbf, with 0.6 of a second separating the 675 & 765 from 0-124mph, its not really an earth shattering difference in pace.

The fact that an F1 takes 1.9secs longer to 124mph than a 675 is a greater measure of the evolution of the marque.

[Bispal]

HIS LM said:

I got to £340k but can't work out if the carbon fibre louvres £11.8k and c/f air brake £5.3k are included in the CS professional pack £17k or over and above

Mine is a CS Pro and the carbon wing / air brake was included but the wing vents are not. I paid for mine when i bought the car and Guildford fitted.

From McLaren:-

The Club Sport Pack is available in non-Federal markets, and includes a titanium roll hoop, four-point racing harnesses and a fire extinguisher, making it ideal for track-day enthusiasts.

Produced in conjunction with our renowned Chief Test Driver, Chris Goodwin, the Club Sport Professional Pack combines Club Sport specification with Chris’s own ideal equipment list. This includes the use of carbon fibre for the front wing end plates, side air intakes, centre of the rear bumper, wheel arches and wing mirrors. Exclusive to the Club Sport Professional Pack, the ‘Longtail’ Airbrake is also finished in visual carbon fibre to emphasise the lightweight material at the heart of the 675LT.

A bespoke paint palette is offered for the 675LT Club Sport Professional Pack with a choice of four exterior colours: Titanium Silver, Storm Grey, Chicane Grey and Onyx Black. All are matched with Stealth-finished Ultra Lightweight 10-spoke alloy wheels, along with McLaren Orange brake calipers, echoing the colour of Chris’s crash helmet. The McLaren Orange detailing continues throughout the Alcantara-upholstered interior with orange embossed leather and contrasting stitching on the fixed-back carbon-shelled racing seats

So you can see the Club Sport Pro package gives quite a lot. There are not many of them, I was so pleased mine is one of them.

[captainblakk]

Terminator X said:

Just out of interest can you really notice the power difference between models? They must all be monsters.

TX.

I’d say the difference is palpable, I had a 675, and I’d say my 765 feels more ferocious, possibly due to the lower gearing as well as the increased output, the way it rips through the gears is insane

[Rocketreid]

captainblakk said:

I’d say the difference is palpable, I had a 675, and I’d say my 765 feels more ferocious, possibly due to the lower gearing as well as the increased output, the way it rips through the gears is insane

This is my overall opinion.

While I have never owned a 675, I have driven plenty and my 765LT does feel a more brutal car in comparison.

[JPCGT]

Bispal said:

here you go, for spider anyway....

Do the parts prices include VAT ? Assuming cost of fitting would be extra cost too?

[Wheelspinning]

SSO said:

We own both and have no plans to part with either. While the 765LT has moved the game along significantly, as a car for a perfect, great, weekend drive, it's still the 675LT Spider keys that I grab.

That seems to be the general feeling towards the 675.

The DP at my mac dealership who has been involved since being opened views the 675 as his all round favourite mac.

When you have unlimited access to the OPCs owners P1, Speedtail, 765 etc, I think that's a pretty decent independant endorsement from a non owner with no bias.

[HIS LM]

Are we saying the carbon fibre wing louvres are £11.8k ?

[Davyt]

765LT every time, the aging 675LT is a great car but the games moved forward, I seem to remember a Thorny Video where Mr John thought the 720s was the best car at the time, this was before he had the opportunity to drive the 765LT , if the 765LT is 10% better ( as someone has said) than the 720s then it’s a no brainer,, long live the 675LT and all the owners who sail in it,,

Edited by Davyt on Sunday 10th March 21:00

[Bispal]

HIS LM said:

Are we saying the carbon fibre wing louvres are £11.8k ?

Yes, its the entire wing x 2 including the louvres, I think that's fitted and painted too & with vat from a dealer. If you have the carbon wings then the only non carbon body panels are the roof and bonnet. For comparison a front fibreglass clam on a Lotus Exige is more-or-less the same price.