Pushy salesman at main dealer
Pushy salesman at main dealer
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BishopS0411

Original Poster:

4 posts

68 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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Back in the Autumn, I ordered a new Ford Focus from my local main dealer.

My personal circumstances have since changed and I no longer want the car. However, it's arrived at the main dealers earlier than forecast and now the sales guy is telling me that I have to take it.

Because it's been delivered to the dealer, Ford have closed down my online account, So I can't access the documentation to see if there's anything legally binding.

Does anyone have any thoughts/knowledge/experience?

Thanks.

Sebring440

3,164 posts

123 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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Have you got a contract? And within that contract is there a committment to buy? Have you paid a deposit?

Pica-Pica

16,365 posts

111 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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BishopS0411 said:
Back in the Autumn, I ordered a new Ford Focus from my local main dealer.

My personal circumstances have since changed and I no longer want the car. However, it's arrived at the main dealers earlier than forecast and now the sales guy is telling me that I have to take it.

Because it's been delivered to the dealer, Ford have closed down my online account, So I can't access the documentation to see if there's anything legally binding.

Does anyone have any thoughts/knowledge/experience?

Thanks.
So, you entered into a contract (as I understand it) but did not save any documentation/e-mails?

Jamescrs

6,219 posts

92 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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You need to get a signed copy of your order paperwork from the dealer, the devil will be in the details

Dimebars

1,058 posts

121 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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So the salesman is being "pushy" because he's asked you to take delivery of the car that you were happy to place an order for?

If I were the salesman, I'd be delighted to cancel your deal on the basis that I'd never need to deal with you again

J1990

847 posts

80 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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It sounds like you've been incompetent rather than the salesman being pushy.
Find a copy of the order, review the details, find out if you're being unreasonable.

Terminator X

20,095 posts

231 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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I ordered a RS3 which I cancelled when on the ship over here. Dealer not happy but they eventually returned my deposit.

TX.

BishopS0411

Original Poster:

4 posts

68 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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Pica-Pica said:
So, you entered into a contract (as I understand it) but did not save any documentation/e-mails?
It was all done online within their portal. And now I'm trying to access them, they're no longer there!

BishopS0411

Original Poster:

4 posts

68 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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Sebring440 said:
Have you got a contract? And within that contract is there a committment to buy? Have you paid a deposit?
The deposit was only £199, so I'd be happy to accept losing that

BishopS0411

Original Poster:

4 posts

68 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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Dimebars said:
So the salesman is being "pushy" because he's asked you to take delivery of the car that you were happy to place an order for?

If I were the salesman, I'd be delighted to cancel your deal on the basis that I'd never need to deal with you again
For starters, the car turned up early. So I haven't sold my current car yet. And now he's putting pressure on me to sell it trade when I know I will get more privately. It's a huge downgrade from what I currently drive, so not overly keen to do it anyway. But needs must. Now he's pushing me to trade mine in, I've taken a dislike to him because of his attitude.

It's not my fault it turned up 6 weeks earlier than I was told!

Caddyshack

14,469 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th February 2024
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Maybe just tell them you will collect it in 6 weeks, as expected, and that gives time to sell your car.

The paperwork may show you must take delivery when it arrives but they would then need to point that out to you, at which point they will have supplied you with the copy paperwork.


Danm1les

1,003 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th February 2024
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Just collect it when you expected to collect it. Surely taking it in March on a new reg will be slightly nicer too.

Trevor555

5,338 posts

111 months

Thursday 8th February 2024
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BishopS0411 said:
It was all done online within their portal. And now I'm trying to access them, they're no longer there!
All done online?

Google distance sale.

lornemalvo

4,663 posts

95 months

Thursday 8th February 2024
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Trevor555 said:
BishopS0411 said:
It was all done online within their portal. And now I'm trying to access them, they're no longer there!
All done online?

Google distance sale.
As above I believe distance selling regulations apply as it was an online purchase.https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/distance-selling-regulations-aAijb9Q8UT3V#your-right-to-cancel-an-order-for-goods

buyerandseller

846 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th February 2024
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lornemalvo said:
Trevor555 said:
BishopS0411 said:
It was all done online within their portal. And now I'm trying to access them, they're no longer there!
All done online?

Google distance sale.
As above I believe distance selling regulations apply as it was an online purchase.https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/distance-selling-regulations-aAijb9Q8UT3V#your-right-to-cancel-an-order-for-goods
If the car was ordered as "tailor-made or personalised goods" as from the above link then it may not be that simple.

The Rotrex Kid

34,451 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th February 2024
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buyerandseller said:
lornemalvo said:
Trevor555 said:
BishopS0411 said:
It was all done online within their portal. And now I'm trying to access them, they're no longer there!
All done online?

Google distance sale.
As above I believe distance selling regulations apply as it was an online purchase.https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/distance-selling-regulations-aAijb9Q8UT3V#your-right-to-cancel-an-order-for-goods
If the car was ordered as "tailor-made or personalised goods" as from the above link then it may not be that simple.
Car don’t normally qualify as that IIRC as they’re (mostly) built from a specified list of options.

I suspect if you went PTS bright pink with camel dick leather it might be a different case….

HTP99

24,958 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th February 2024
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If the whole transaction was completed online or by phone with you having never set foot in the dealership, you can cancel and walk away with a refund of your £199 deposit.

I do find it odd though you don't have any paperwork!

AlexRS2782

8,482 posts

240 months

Friday 9th February 2024
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HTP99 said:
...I do find it odd though you don't have any paperwork!
Based on OP's earlier posts and Pica-Pica's earlier (unanswered) question to them, my guess is that they will have had paperwork they just never bothered downloading a .pdf copy of it from the online portal at any time since they placed the order.

Car's now been delivered, account closed by Ford and OP has crapped themselves realising they now can't get access to the agreement because they never read it - just like a large number of people doing everything online but forgetting to keep a copy of any agreements thinking it will always be available online (until it isn't like now).