Man Shot Dead By Police In London
Man Shot Dead By Police In London
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Alickadoo

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3,254 posts

45 months

Tuesday 30th January 2024
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Man with crossbow trying to force his way into a house was shot dead by police.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68137...

s1962a

7,165 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th January 2024
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On the face of it, sounds like the right course of action if the suspect was armed. No further details at the moment it seems.

captain_cynic

16,234 posts

117 months

Tuesday 30th January 2024
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s1962a said:
On the face of it, sounds like the right course of action if the suspect was armed. No further details at the moment it seems.
This.

Like all police deaths there will be an investigation but no cause to think it's anything but what is being claimed. Hope the officers involved are alright.

It's a good thing that in the UK that a police shooting is so rare that one death without any suspicious circumstances makes the news.

standards

1,204 posts

240 months

Tuesday 30th January 2024
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Obviously tragic.

Just wondering what the Sheriff of Polk County would say were it in his jurisdiction. He’s fairly direct.

XCP

17,585 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th January 2024
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Reportedly he was armed with a knife, a hatchet, a sword and a crossbow.

Ian Geary

5,347 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th January 2024
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I read this article this morning, and it seems likely that someone's life was at-risk.

I did spot this at the bottom though

BBC article said:
The most recent fatal shooting by the Met Police was that of Giedrius Vasiljevas, 40, who died at his home in Dagenham, east London, in November after calling 999 to say he had loaded guns and wanted to take his own life.
I don't remember that incident getting much coverage.

On the face of it it sounded ridiculous, but then I realised the guy basically used the police to commit suicide. Seems a pretty selfish thing to do to a police officer.


Sheepshanks

38,963 posts

141 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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Ian Geary said:
I read this article this morning, and it seems likely that someone's life was at-risk.

I did spot this at the bottom though

BBC article said:
The most recent fatal shooting by the Met Police was that of Giedrius Vasiljevas, 40, who died at his home in Dagenham, east London, in November after calling 999 to say he had loaded guns and wanted to take his own life.
I don't remember that incident getting much coverage.

On the face of it it sounded ridiculous, but then I realised the guy basically used the police to commit suicide. Seems a pretty selfish thing to do to a police officer.
It’s a regular thing in the US.

andyA700

3,452 posts

59 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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XCP said:
Reportedly he was armed with a knife, a hatchet, a sword and a crossbow.
What we have to ask ourselves though, just to be absolutely sure - was it just a coincidence that he had all those weapons with him at the same time?
Just asking for a friend.

.:ian:.

2,748 posts

225 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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andyA700 said:
XCP said:
Reportedly he was armed with a knife, a hatchet, a sword and a crossbow.
What we have to ask ourselves though, just to be absolutely sure - was it just a coincidence that he had all those weapons with him at the same time?
Just asking for a friend.
Maybe he was carrying them for work, as a professional medieval reenactor?

s1962a

7,165 posts

184 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68152...

Known to the services.

article said:
A man shot dead by police after breaking into a south London home armed with weapons including a crossbow was a convicted stalker who was banned from entering the road where he was shot.

J4CKO

45,619 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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A bit uncomfortable to say, but sod it, anyone else think "Phew, he was white" ?

And then, though you dont want to hear of anyone being shot, you hear crossbow and convicted stalker and think fair dos, Police doing Police things, you fk about, you find out as they say.

Sheepshanks

38,963 posts

141 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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J4CKO said:
A bit uncomfortable to say, but sod it, anyone else think "Phew, he was white"?
Maybe he’d still be alive if he’d been black?

pork911

7,365 posts

205 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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Amazing how chatty police chiefs are so early on in such circumstances.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

66 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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andyA700 said:
XCP said:
Reportedly he was armed with a knife, a hatchet, a sword and a crossbow.
What we have to ask ourselves though, just to be absolutely sure - was it just a coincidence that he had all those weapons with him at the same time?
Just asking for a friend.
Are the reports confirmed?

mac96

5,614 posts

165 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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J4CKO said:
A bit uncomfortable to say, but sod it, anyone else think "Phew, he was white" ?

And then, though you dont want to hear of anyone being shot, you hear crossbow and convicted stalker and think fair dos, Police doing Police things, you fk about, you find out as they say.
I assumed he was white from the outset, judging from the lack of any public outrage. Not saying there should have been any. Sounds justified as far as we know so far.

pork911

7,365 posts

205 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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Biggy Stardust said:
andyA700 said:
XCP said:
Reportedly he was armed with a knife, a hatchet, a sword and a crossbow.
What we have to ask ourselves though, just to be absolutely sure - was it just a coincidence that he had all those weapons with him at the same time?
Just asking for a friend.
Are the reports confirmed?
Don't know why any need to wait for IOPC to investigate since the Met Police's Assistant Commissioner Matt Twist said
"I firmly believe their actions prevented further loss of life."

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

66 months

Wednesday 31st January 2024
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pork911 said:
Don't know why any need to wait for IOPC to investigate since the Met Police's Assistant Commissioner Matt Twist said
"I firmly believe their actions prevented further loss of life."
Have they ever fibbed in the past to excuse killing someone?

Their word is not good without corroboration. If the guy genuinely had these items then fair play but evidence is required.

Earthdweller

17,392 posts

148 months

Thursday 1st February 2024
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Biggy Stardust said:
Have they ever fibbed in the past to excuse killing someone?

Their word is not good without corroboration. If the guy genuinely had these items then fair play but evidence is required.
I know you’re absolutely right.

It’s the third time this week alone that Police have randomly broken into someone’s house at 5.30am and shot dead the occupant and then planted a crossbow, knives and body armour on them

Amazingly they even managed to get local residents not only call them but also film them murdering the innocent occupant

It’s impressive how they managed it don’t you think?


Alickadoo

Original Poster:

3,254 posts

45 months

Thursday 1st February 2024
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Earthdweller said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Have they ever fibbed in the past to excuse killing someone?

Their word is not good without corroboration. If the guy genuinely had these items then fair play but evidence is required.
I know you’re absolutely right.

It’s the third time this week alone that Police have randomly broken into someone’s house at 5.30am and shot dead the occupant and then planted a crossbow, knives and body armour on them

Amazingly they even managed to get local residents not only call them but also film them murdering the innocent occupant

It’s impressive how they managed it don’t you think?
If only i knew the difference between irony and sarcasm.

dirky dirk

3,361 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st February 2024
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J4CKO said:
A bit uncomfortable to say, but sod it, anyone else think "Phew, he was white" ?

And then, though you dont want to hear of anyone being shot, you hear crossbow and convicted stalker and think fair dos, Police doing Police things, you fk about, you find out as they say.
yes definately
but youll get shouted down on here for saying it