Advice on purchasing a wet bike..?
Advice on purchasing a wet bike..?
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gansstraat

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187 posts

254 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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Having moved to the west coast of Scotland last year, I've been toying with the idea of buying a small speed boat or jet ski for the last 6 months. However, having watched the fun a couple of wetbikers (no pun intended) had whilst on the ferry back from Arran last weekend make me decide to plump for a wetbike.

Being the complete novice I am, I would appreciate any advice PHers could give on:-

a) best type of bike to opt for (Polaris looking pretty sexy);
b) best of getting requisite training before taking bike out; and
c) minimum standards of insurance etc.

Don't wish to turn it into the normal sail v. power debate - just some friendly advice to someone who'll hold his hands up & say he's a beginner and doesn't want to risk being lablled a 'kn$bhead' by other water users by simply getting on a wetbike & twisting the throttle.

Cheers in advance,

CG

dtmpower

3,972 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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What do you mean by a wet bike - like a seadoo ? sit down jet ski style - I would think they would be pretty fun - or the jet boat style thing (they used on on celebrity love island ) to evict the celebrity from the said island.

gansstraat

Original Poster:

187 posts

254 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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Sit down jet bike (3 seater) capable of towing skis, boards and assorted inflatable toys....

miniandy

1,512 posts

267 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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Stand-ups are much more fun and you'll not get bored. Sit downs have limited appeal as you can't do tricks on them. They are also known as armchairs! You can pick up a good standup from about £1500 - £2000. I would suggest you get one.

You need third party insurance as a minimum, and if you go on Loch Lomond you need to register your ski but this is cheap to do.

Lastly, get yourself a good quality wetsuit. I have been out in January, and there are no issues with overcrowding!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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You may get bored with a stand up if you are not into the perfection of technique. You will definately get bored with a sitdown unless you use it very little. A small power boat is much more sociable but a lot more hassle and expense. If you are going to use a boat best bet is some sort of park and launch provider. Jetskis are very thievable so you need a garage to put them in. Echo what has been said about a wetsuit you need one for the summer anyway as long term exposure to UK sea temperatures is intollerable. Remember if you are going out for a few hours on a jetski you are bound to get soaked and cold kills. Best wetsuit is made to measure and is not that expensive, go for a 5mm body and 3 or 4 mm legs and arms. Rear zip is best unless you always have someone on hand to help you out of it. Shorties give you a bit more freedom but are no use in the winter. Not much to driving a sit down really, as with all watercraft the skill is in slow manouvring rather than high speed open water driving. Remember the jet powered craft has no steering unless it is under power. Once you relase the throttle you have no control over which direction it goes in. Bit like a 911 but more extreem Hope that helps.

gansstraat

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187 posts

254 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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Cheers for all the info so far.

Re this issue of basic training, do sailing (or powerboat) clubs normally run some kind of basic training courses? I'm a bit aprehensive of taking something capable of up to 60mph+ onto the open sea (and shipping routes ) without a smidgen of training in the art of seamanship....

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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gansstraat said:
Cheers for all the info so far.

Re this issue of basic training, do sailing (or powerboat) clubs normally run some kind of basic training courses? I'm a bit aprehensive of taking something capable of up to 60mph+ onto the open sea (and shipping routes ) without a smidgen of training in the art of seamanship....


The fact that you are apprehensive probably means you will be OK. The RYA run basic powerboat courses, but trust me the biggest safety issues are to do with launch and retrieval and manouvering in the marina not being on the open sea. Just remember you pass on the right like your driving on the continent. Dont go wizzing up and down past a speedboat at anchor just to get a better look cos they may well be having lunch and your wake will rock them about. If you see someone waterskiing dont run up behind them to see how its done cos they have a habit of falling off. Its common sense really just avaid cutting accross the front of anyone and never expect sailing boats to give way even if the stupid gits are having their 12th reggataaaahhhh this year right accross the harbour mouth.

juk

580 posts

281 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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gansstraat said:

Don't wish to turn it into the normal sail v. power debate

CG


Too good an opportunity to miss tho'?

Tank Slapper

7,949 posts

313 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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nonegreen said:

....and never expect sailing boats to give way even if the stupid gits are having their 12th reggataaaahhhh this year right accross the harbour mouth.


Power gives way to sail (unless you happen to be a great container ship )

Good attitude to take by the OP. As a thought, personal watercraft (jetskis etc) have been found to be "ships" for legal purposes ie. the merchant shipping act applies to them. Have a read up of what your obligations are, though if you do some training it should all be covered.

opieoilman

4,408 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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Can you still get these?

If so, I fancy one.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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opieoilman said:
Can you still get these?

If so, I fancy one.





Not a new one no

opieoilman

4,408 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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I realise that

But other than Bond I have never seen one, at all, and would love to have ago.

My personal favorites are the Standup handle bar style jetskis.

Currently looking for two of em at the mo as I want the engines and water jet unit from them for a icle project of mine.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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Tank Slapper said:

nonegreen said:

....and never expect sailing boats to give way even if the stupid gits are having their 12th reggataaaahhhh this year right accross the harbour mouth.



Power gives way to sail (unless you happen to be a great container ship )



Yeah but no but yeah but no right because I was never not even there and kevin never said ram him cos he was up the sharp end with a filthy slut that debra shutup and anyway we had a fishing rod so that makes it right shutup so whats it matter if the commodores boat sank stupid old grunter he was nearly dead anyway.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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opieoilman said:
I realise that

But other than Bond I have never seen one, at all, and would love to have ago.

My personal favorites are the Standup handle bar style jetskis.

Currently looking for two of em at the mo as I want the engines and water jet unit from them for a icle project of mine.



You might find one if you trawl through www.traderonline.com

Its the biggest marine market in the world.

Alternatively if its jet bits you want try Lancing Marine in Portslade Sussex. They are jet experts if a bit nerdy. Hope that helps

pagey

1,372 posts

264 months

Thursday 8th September 2005
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gansstraat said:
Cheers for all the info so far.

Re this issue of basic training, do sailing (or powerboat) clubs normally run some kind of basic training courses? I'm a bit aprehensive of taking something capable of up to 60mph+ onto the open sea (and shipping routes ) without a smidgen of training in the art of seamanship....


RYA Approved course - most (if not all) Marine Insurance companies require you to have a RYA certificate and if you are going to use a private slipway (local boatyard etc) you need to produce your insurance and if launching inside the harbour you need an annual harbour licence - IIRC about £30

HTH

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Friday 9th September 2005
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pagey said:

gansstraat said:
Cheers for all the info so far.

Re this issue of basic training, do sailing (or powerboat) clubs normally run some kind of basic training courses? I'm a bit aprehensive of taking something capable of up to 60mph+ onto the open sea (and shipping routes ) without a smidgen of training in the art of seamanship....



RYA Approved course - most (if not all) Marine Insurance companies require you to have a RYA certificate and if you are going to use a private slipway (local boatyard etc) you need to produce your insurance and if launching inside the harbour you need an annual harbour licence - IIRC about £30

HTH


I have owned boats for 25 years and I have never been asked for my certificates except when I went to Spain with the boat. I suggest that if most marine insurances asked for them they would lose their business overnight as most people have never bothered and the RYA is an amateur organisation anyway and their record keeping is crap.

moleamol

15,887 posts

293 months

Friday 9th September 2005
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opieoilman said:
Can you still get these?

If so, I fancy one.

eBay

love machine

7,609 posts

265 months

Friday 9th September 2005
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Advice on purchasing a wet bike..?

Stay the hell away from beaches with other humans on. I've nearly been killed by one of the things flying off waves when I was out surfing. If I had a bazooka, I'd use it.

I reckon a small jet boat is a good idea. I paid £400 for a 1962 Dowty Turbocraft. 3L V6 would run in 3" of water, go up rapids and turn in its own length at top speed (about 60mph). For the price of a jet ski, you will get something pretty impressive on ebay.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

282 months

Friday 9th September 2005
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moleamol said:

opieoilman said:
Can you still get these?

If so, I fancy one.


eBay



Funnily enough, I was just looking at that this morning! If only it wasn't in ireland.