Are you a creationist?

[Skeptisk]

On another thread I saw that a survey from 2019 had around 40% of Americans believing that god created humans and the world within the last 10000 years. Only 25% believed in evolution.

I was wondering what the percentages would be like on PH (which is mostly British).

Edited by Skeptisk on Wednesday 17th January 16:59

[standards]

No I am not.

And for ‘Young Earth Creationists’ it’s within the last 10,000 years; for ‘Old Earth Creationists’ the earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Both wrong although the former are more wrong and almost abusing the texts IMHO.

[kambites]

The US is very much the outlier in the modern Western world. Everywhere else, religious practice and belief is dying off and those who do believe are generally getting more private about their beliefs and are taking the texts less and less literally; whereas in the US evangelist, literalist Christianity is thriving.

I've often wondered why... how can one country be so out of step with all of the other countries with which it has the most social exchange?

[sherbertdip]

kambites said:

The US is very much the outlier in the modern Western world. Everywhere else, religious practice and belief is dying off and those who do believe are generally getting more private about their beliefs and are taking the texts less and less literally; whereas in the US evangelist, literalist Christianity is thriving.

I've often wondered why... how can one country be so out of step with all of the other countries with which it has the most social exchange?

Probably because a large proportion of what is a large population are very insular, coupled with the belief that they are the best therefore what they do is the best, it's a self serving circular argument.

Every time I've been there (through work) I've come to the conclusion that the USA is the most foreign western country, only the language eases this.

[Roofless Toothless]

kambites said:

I've often wondered why... how can one country be so out of step with all of the other countries with which it has the most social exchange?

Because of the failure of the American public education system. People aren’t stupid, just ignorant.

[Triumph Man]

kambites said:

The US is very much the outlier in the modern Western world. Everywhere else, religious practice and belief is dying off and those who do believe are generally getting more private about their beliefs and are taking the texts less and less literally; whereas in the US evangelist, literalist Christianity is thriving.

I've often wondered why... how can one country be so out of step with all of the other countries with which it has the most social exchange?

something something refusal to adopt the metric system something something. Probably linked.

[Eric Mc]

Why are the survey points so limited?

[kambites]

sherbertdip said:

Every time I've been there (through work) I've come to the conclusion that the USA is the most foreign western country, only the language eases this.

I think that bit depends very much on which bit of America you visit. For example, I'd say that in many ways Boston has more in common with London than with Nashville.

[captain_cynic]

Triumph Man said:

something something refusal to adopt the metric system something something. Probably linked.

The US is not alone there. Hence the UK has a weird mish mash of imperial and metric. Petrol is sold in litres but fuel efficiency is miles per gallon.

[kambites]

captain_cynic said:

Triumph Man said:

something something refusal to adopt the metric system something something. Probably linked.

The US is not alone there. Hence the UK has a weird mish mash of imperial and metric. Petrol is sold in litres but fuel efficiency is miles per gallon.

The UK is changing though. I don't think there will be any imperial units left in mainstream use in the UK in a generation's time.

[BoRED S2upid]

Skeptisk said:

On another thread I saw that a survey from 2019 had around 40% of Americans believing that god created humans and the world within the last 1000 years. Only 25% believed in evolution.

I was wondering what the percentages would be like on PH (which is mostly British).

Yeah but that’s America. We tend to learn science here.

[Glassman]

Eric Mc said:

Why are the survey points so limited?

I think there are two too many.

[Mr Penguin]

We can rule out a Bible literalist interpretation of the creation of the world, but I think that anyone who thinks they have enough knowledge to give a decisive answer beyond that is insane.

[BoRED S2upid]

Mr Penguin said:

We can rule out a Bible literalist interpretation of the creation of the world, but I think that anyone who thinks they have enough knowledge to give a decisive answer beyond that is insane.

As to how humans evolved or how the world was created? The first is easy to answer the second takes a bit more thinking.

[Don Veloci]

Does USA currency say something like - "In god we trust" on every bill?

Always found that a bit weird.

[BoRED S2upid]

Evanivitch said:

The wording is very difficult. Humans didn't evolve guided by God. Human society has been guided by "gods", for better or for worse.

That’s true you can argue that we have evolved over the last 10,000 years guided by many gods.

[MikeM6]

BoRED S2upid said:

Evanivitch said:

The wording is very difficult. Humans didn't evolve guided by God. Human society has been guided by "gods", for better or for worse.

That’s true you can argue that we have evolved over the last 10,000 years guided by many gods.

An interesting way of looking at it. Guided by gods and Disney.

[Strangely Brown]

MikeM6 said:

BoRED S2upid said:

Evanivitch said:

The wording is very difficult. Humans didn't evolve guided by God. Human society has been guided by "gods", for better or for worse.

That’s true you can argue that we have evolved over the last 10,000 years guided by many gods.

An interesting way of looking at it. Guided by gods and Disney.

It is absolutely certain that human societies have been influenced, shaped and defined by the belief in gods of all descriptions, and none, but I do not think that is necessarily true of human evolution. Yes, I agree that you could argue that case but I am far from persuaded that any changes would be distinguishable from those effected by changes in diet and better scientific understanding.

[BigBen]

kambites said:

I think that bit depends very much on which bit of America you visit. For example, I'd say that in many ways Boston has more in common with London than with Nashville.

I am not sure anywhere in the UK (or Nashville) has largely segregated schooling.

[Deep Thought]

BigBen said:

kambites said:

I think that bit depends very much on which bit of America you visit. For example, I'd say that in many ways Boston has more in common with London than with Nashville.

I am not sure anywhere in the UK (or Nashville) has largely segregated schooling.

Northern Ireland does.