Is the answer an Outback?
Is the answer an Outback?
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rs4al

Original Poster:

954 posts

194 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Due to my increasing need to drive down muddy lanes and potentially on the lanes of Salisbury plain as my main hobby is a wildlife photographer.

I probably need to change my car, currently a 340D touring.

The problem is, I don't want to touch Land Rover due to nickability and reliability.

Other SUV's probably won't be adequate enough I guess, was looking at RAV4 but they are now the most nicked car in Europe! (acc to Autogefuhl)

I just wish Subaru would of put the turbo engine in the Outback as the 2.5 lump has no go and likes bit of a drink.

It would also be able to fit a MTB in the boot, so a Duster probably is too small and also too low rent.

Roger Irrelevant

3,383 posts

142 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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I completely agree re the 2.4 turbo engine. I had an old 3.0 Outback which I really liked and I'd happily buy a new one now if it had an engine with more poke. I've now got an XC70 D5 which is a very good alternative and which would do the job you need, but the newest ones are 2016.

PositronicRay

28,938 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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A mate has a 64 reg Mistubishi PHEV thing, seems tough enough, he's happy. Might be worth a look.

MC Bodge

29,560 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Many other cars with a set of M&S type tyres will probably do the job, even without 4wd.

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 7th December 20:46

rs4al

Original Poster:

954 posts

194 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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PositronicRay said:
A mate has a 64 reg Mistubishi PHEV thing, seems tough enough, he's happy. Might be worth a look.
Both my neighbours have got one… so no.

Pebbles167

4,572 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Second gen Subaru Forester had the EJ25 turbo in UK spec. Shouldn't be particularly hard to find one either. I'd rather that than an outback.

Turns out some had the EJ20 too, which is supposedly more reliable.

Edited by Pebbles167 on Thursday 7th December 22:15

TVRBRZ

665 posts

118 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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I have a Gen 6 Outback and I love it. All the roadtests are valid, the engine, the cvt, the fuel economy blah blah.

However, in a year it has been impeccably reliable, no faults and no recalls. I've only been back to the dealer for a cheap 12k service.

It is safe, comfy, practical, vast, unstoppable in snow and mild off road. It is a lovely place to be for long and short journeys and I can have a smidgen of fun on a mountain road (but it is not what it is for). The hill descent works and the x mode and permanent AWD fantastic. I grumbled that the summer OEM tyres were ste in the winter so bought some Winters and it is perfect now the ice and snow are here.

Soooooo good. But it is not everyone's cup of tea - in fact no one else buys them so it is very unique, which adds to the charm!

RichALee

31 posts

101 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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I learned to drive on Salisbury Plain, age 16, in an old BL mini van. It was fine.

TVRBRZ

665 posts

118 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Best review IMHO:

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/subaru/outback

and a gratuitous pic:


MC Bodge

29,560 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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If you want an Outback, get one.

HelenT

289 posts

168 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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The Outback ticks all our boxes as bike transport, big wide opening, huge flat load space so easy to get the bike and dog in the back.
Our 2018 Outback is a big step forward interior wise compared to the Legacy it replaced. Ours has done 78k miles with only routine maintenance that you would expect and gets about 35mpg on most trips (does very little urban trips around town).

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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Have you considered a Skoda Octavia Scout?

MC Bodge

29,560 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th December 2023
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yellowbentines said:
Have you considered a Skoda Octavia Scout?
That was my thought

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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TVRBRZ said:
Best review IMHO:

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/subaru/outback

and a gratuitous pic:

Neighbours have one the same colour and I think it looks fantastic.

covmutley

3,354 posts

219 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Yeti?

TVRBRZ

665 posts

118 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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biggbn said:
Neighbours have one the same colour and I think it looks fantastic.
Wow - a compliment on Pistonheads, I'm in shock! Thanks!

TBH, wife originally hated the colour from photos and called it excrement khaki but was happier when she saw it in the flesh. After a year and lots of family trips she prefers it to the other, muted options.

Suits the subtle, non shouty image. Very much slim public servant as opposed to powerfully built company director (but I have used that line before....)

RicksAlfas

14,493 posts

273 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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The Outbacks are great.
Similar cars:
Volvo Cross Country - V60 or V90
Audi Allroads - A4 or A6
Skoda Scouts
VW Passat Alltrack

2pad

292 posts

180 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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V90 cc is the answer


rs4al

Original Poster:

954 posts

194 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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TVRBRZ said:
I have a Gen 6 Outback and I love it. All the roadtests are valid, the engine, the cvt, the fuel economy blah blah.

However, in a year it has been impeccably reliable, no faults and no recalls. I've only been back to the dealer for a cheap 12k service.

It is safe, comfy, practical, vast, unstoppable in snow and mild off road. It is a lovely place to be for long and short journeys and I can have a smidgen of fun on a mountain road (but it is not what it is for). The hill descent works and the x mode and permanent AWD fantastic. I grumbled that the summer OEM tyres were ste in the winter so bought some Winters and it is perfect now the ice and snow are here.

Soooooo good. But it is not everyone's cup of tea - in fact no one else buys them so it is very unique, which adds to the charm!
What did you have before?

I've always had fast estates and I don't know if I could live with a slooooow one, as like the overtaking ability.

As far as the Volvo, no thanks, the lack of buttons in the 340D drives me mad.

For salisbury plain, you do need a bit of ground clearance as mates have ripped off their sump in normal cars...

Slowboathome

4,461 posts

73 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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I remember Top Gear deciding that a previous version was the best car in the world.