New Average Speed Location - Newlands Corner, Guildford
Discussion
I guess this could also fit in ‘S, P & L’ subsection but let’s try here first.
I just wanted to ask anyone more familiar with the area, when the new average speed cameras went in between Newlands Corner and Silent Pool?
I drove through last week and noticed just one camera at the top of the hill at Newlands Corner. Confused, I thought it was fixed speed but today have seen one has gone in at the bottom of the hill at Silent Pool. Seems as if PocketGPSWorld has them and now Waze but only the last couple of weeks. Are they live yet?
Interestingly they seem to be tracking speed going up the hill and not down it which is odd as you’d expect higher speed when coasting with gravity. But to be honest the speed in that area of Surrey is mostly people doing 50% of the speed limit anyway so you’d be hard pressed to break it.
I just wanted to ask anyone more familiar with the area, when the new average speed cameras went in between Newlands Corner and Silent Pool?
I drove through last week and noticed just one camera at the top of the hill at Newlands Corner. Confused, I thought it was fixed speed but today have seen one has gone in at the bottom of the hill at Silent Pool. Seems as if PocketGPSWorld has them and now Waze but only the last couple of weeks. Are they live yet?
Interestingly they seem to be tracking speed going up the hill and not down it which is odd as you’d expect higher speed when coasting with gravity. But to be honest the speed in that area of Surrey is mostly people doing 50% of the speed limit anyway so you’d be hard pressed to break it.
Panamax said:
Sponsored by Bell & Colvill?
It was bad enough when half the dual carriageway was restricted to one lane and 50 mph limit throughout.
No no, the A25 I mean on the way to/from Gomshall/Dorking. Nothing on the Lotus route at the moment, except the usual chaos and the odd camera van on the dual carriageway up to the lights. It was bad enough when half the dual carriageway was restricted to one lane and 50 mph limit throughout.
Pretty rough isn’t it. Not surprising, I guess there’s lots of accidents when people pull out of the National Trust car park.
Drove past again this evening, looks like it’s unfinished, one more camera to go in at top and bottom, then will do speed up and down the hill. Not sure if it’ll be extended down towards where it meets the A246 but, towards Gomshall after Silent Pool it is still 60mph thankfully.
Drove past again this evening, looks like it’s unfinished, one more camera to go in at top and bottom, then will do speed up and down the hill. Not sure if it’ll be extended down towards where it meets the A246 but, towards Gomshall after Silent Pool it is still 60mph thankfully.
Yes, it seems they're all gradually getting nailed down. I've no idea if these roads have poor accident records or whether it's just the hand-wringers. Nonetheless I recall with a smile some interesting moments in an Esprit turbo back in the day and will treasure those memories all the more.
By the way, nearly a hundred years ago there was an interesting moment in history when Agatha Christie's car was found teetering over the edge of that very road by Newlands Corner. Her driving licence was left in the car but she had "disappeared". Turned up several days later at a hotel in Harrogate, quietly minding her own business despite a major national search.
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/nostalgia/agatha-...
By the way, nearly a hundred years ago there was an interesting moment in history when Agatha Christie's car was found teetering over the edge of that very road by Newlands Corner. Her driving licence was left in the car but she had "disappeared". Turned up several days later at a hotel in Harrogate, quietly minding her own business despite a major national search.
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/nostalgia/agatha-...
Panamax said:
Yes, it seems they're all gradually getting nailed down. I've no idea if these roads have poor accident records or whether it's just the hand-wringers. Nonetheless I recall with a smile some interesting moments in an Esprit turbo back in the day and will treasure those memories all the more.
By the way, nearly a hundred years ago there was an interesting moment in history when Agatha Christie's car was found teetering over the edge of that very road by Newlands Corner. Her driving licence was left in the car but she had "disappeared". Turned up several days later at a hotel in Harrogate, quietly minding her own business despite a major national search.
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/nostalgia/agatha-...
I mean, that’s the argument they’ll use. I think there have been a few bike crashes in the Summer recently due to people pulling out of the carpark. It is a lovely bit road to throw a bike and interesting car along, but we just have to wait until after Silent Pool now to do it. By the way, nearly a hundred years ago there was an interesting moment in history when Agatha Christie's car was found teetering over the edge of that very road by Newlands Corner. Her driving licence was left in the car but she had "disappeared". Turned up several days later at a hotel in Harrogate, quietly minding her own business despite a major national search.
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/nostalgia/agatha-...
Interesting fact and a good read. I bet in this day and age they’d have her chased down with a helicopter
.Are you sure these are going to be average speed cameras?
There are new front and rear facing infrared ones that look similar, work at night, and can also be used for monitoring traffic so don't need to be put in accident hotpots.
No doubt they'll be placed on any road with an ounce of enjoyment potential in the near future.
No wonder there are an increasing number of bikers without number plates these days.
There are new front and rear facing infrared ones that look similar, work at night, and can also be used for monitoring traffic so don't need to be put in accident hotpots.
No doubt they'll be placed on any road with an ounce of enjoyment potential in the near future.
No wonder there are an increasing number of bikers without number plates these days.
toasty said:
Are you sure these are going to be average speed cameras?
There are new front and rear facing infrared ones that look similar, work at night, and can also be used for monitoring traffic so don't need to be put in accident hotpots.
No doubt they'll be placed on any road with an ounce of enjoyment potential in the near future.
No wonder there are an increasing number of bikers without number plates these days.
I do believe so, they are yellow units on black poles, the same as those A217 Reigate Hill if you’re familiar. I went through again today (lucky me!) and stuck to 40mph in case, but those ahead rushed off. They didn’t flash at those doing 50+mph and don’t appear to have flashes, so I don’t think they are Jenoptik fixed speed like A217 Woodhatch. There are new front and rear facing infrared ones that look similar, work at night, and can also be used for monitoring traffic so don't need to be put in accident hotpots.
No doubt they'll be placed on any road with an ounce of enjoyment potential in the near future.
No wonder there are an increasing number of bikers without number plates these days.
I’m trying to have a better look but it’s dark each way at the times I travel.
Either way, go easy on your next trip!
Swole said:
toasty said:
Are you sure these are going to be average speed cameras?
There are new front and rear facing infrared ones that look similar, work at night, and can also be used for monitoring traffic so don't need to be put in accident hotpots.
No doubt they'll be placed on any road with an ounce of enjoyment potential in the near future.
No wonder there are an increasing number of bikers without number plates these days.
I do believe so, they are yellow units on black poles, the same as those A217 Reigate Hill if you’re familiar. I went through again today (lucky me!) and stuck to 40mph in case, but those ahead rushed off. They didn’t flash at those doing 50+mph and don’t appear to have flashes, so I don’t think they are Jenoptik fixed speed like A217 Woodhatch. There are new front and rear facing infrared ones that look similar, work at night, and can also be used for monitoring traffic so don't need to be put in accident hotpots.
No doubt they'll be placed on any road with an ounce of enjoyment potential in the near future.
No wonder there are an increasing number of bikers without number plates these days.
I’m trying to have a better look but it’s dark each way at the times I travel.
Either way, go easy on your next trip!
There's one I can see at the bottom facing up the hill and another at the top of the hill on the other side facing towards Clandon way. So guessing more to go in yet. I hope.
I've seen the way people behave on a Sunday evening at the various car meets, typical moronic behavior from people in JDM cars showing off as they leave the Newlands car parks sideways has probably caused this, High presence of cyclists (me included), walkers with children and a generally busy area requires some control. It's honestly chaos at times.
So, not surprised and it's probably a good thing before someone gets hurt or killed.
The average will be irritating and ruin a decent road though.
I've seen the way people behave on a Sunday evening at the various car meets, typical moronic behavior from people in JDM cars showing off as they leave the Newlands car parks sideways has probably caused this, High presence of cyclists (me included), walkers with children and a generally busy area requires some control. It's honestly chaos at times.
So, not surprised and it's probably a good thing before someone gets hurt or killed.
The average will be irritating and ruin a decent road though.
Well, it’s officially official. And lots more locations too!
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/exact...
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/exact...
3 days after these cameras went “live” the camera looking “downhill” was seen to be missing and just a wire left hanging.
Pretty coincidental that it disappeared the night before a motorcycle meet at newlands corner!
It’s still like this as I type.
My official complaint to scc highlighting corruption and the idea that the cameras were just for revenue generation, was just pushed to one side and scc claimed that their “position was final on this”
I have to disagree with them, as the locals hate the cameras and astonishingly local businesses weren’t even consulted on the plans, and scc claim that they did not require a consultation for them.
I cc”d local mp Angela Richardson into my complaint emails to scc hoping that she would intervene, but as usual the corruption prevailed and she was not interested in helping.
So to the person that made the camera disappear, I salute you 👍🏻
Pretty coincidental that it disappeared the night before a motorcycle meet at newlands corner!
It’s still like this as I type.
My official complaint to scc highlighting corruption and the idea that the cameras were just for revenue generation, was just pushed to one side and scc claimed that their “position was final on this”
I have to disagree with them, as the locals hate the cameras and astonishingly local businesses weren’t even consulted on the plans, and scc claim that they did not require a consultation for them.
I cc”d local mp Angela Richardson into my complaint emails to scc hoping that she would intervene, but as usual the corruption prevailed and she was not interested in helping.
So to the person that made the camera disappear, I salute you 👍🏻
Gassing Station | South Coast | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff