Cost for concrete base

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Bob-iylho

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756 posts

121 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Hi Chaps,
Can someone give me an idea of cost for a concrete base.
Dimensions 10ft x 30ft, the ground slopes by about 1ft -1.5ft over the 10ft width, it will need this side levelling up.
So cost for digging out (no dirt removal cost), hardcore and concrete plus shuttering work.

It's for a container which will eventually be clad in cedar and look quite tidy so want to get a good base down rather than a few sleepers.
Thank you.

anonymous-user

69 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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3k

PhilboSE

5,191 posts

241 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Somewhere in the £5000 landing zone if someone else does all the work with no muckaway. Including a bit of mesh or fibres in the concrete. South East price.

Bob-iylho

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121 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Thanks to both of you, 30 miles north of London, been quoted around £4k mark.
I shall speak to the chap tomorrow, recommended by a mate who he did work for, did a proper job.
Hopefully a little bit of movement in quote.
Anyway excellent, thank you.

bennno

13,883 posts

284 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Hugely dependent upon whether you can back a readymix lorry up to it, of its it’s at the bottom of a garden down a narrow alley.

lrdisco

1,614 posts

102 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Don’t you think that he ever gets sick of being asked to participate in VAT fraud?
Do you get discounts at Tesco by paying cash?

Bob-iylho

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756 posts

121 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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lrdisco said:
Don’t you think that he ever gets sick of being asked to participate in VAT fraud?
Do you get discounts at Tesco by paying cash?
weird response............

Bob-iylho

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121 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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bennno said:
Hugely dependent upon whether you can back a readymix lorry up to it, of its it’s at the bottom of a garden down a narrow alley.
Get a lorry right up to it.

SonicHedgeHog

2,580 posts

197 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Can someone explain these prices to me please? I’m not sure how thick a slab the OP needs but based on the length and width stated and a thickness of 1ft the total amount of concrete is just under 10m3. A quick online search suggests a price of £100-120 per m3 plus VAT so let’s say £150/m3. That’s a maximum of £1500 for the concrete. How the hell does a bloke with a shovel and wheelbarrow plus a £300 skip get that price up to £5k? It’s only takes a day.

PhilboSE

5,191 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Look at the job spec in more detail.

Ground needs laying out, levelling and dug out for the hardcore base. So that’s a couple of days with a digger and dumper to lose the spoil.

Then bring in the hardcore, put it down and compact it. Another couple of days with the 2 bits of plant.

Then build the shuttering, another couple of days to bring in the ply, cut it up, lay it out square then brace it all.

Before you get to the concreting.

Now look at all the man days and materials above and add the VAT.


Edited by PhilboSE on Saturday 18th November 06:33

bennno

13,883 posts

284 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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At 21cm deep concrete you’d need 6m2 or 27cm deep you need 8m2 of concrete so 6 or 8 x £130 = £780-£1040
You’d want reinforcing mesh sheets c £300
12 tons of sub base 12x£45 £530
7 scaffold boards at £25 = £175
Digger, dumper and driver to dig out / level hardcore £280 (8 hrs @£35 hr)
Wacker hire £100
Level concrete upon delivery £280 (max) half day x 2 people

So circa £2700 + vat approx


AlvinSultana

907 posts

164 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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bennno said:
At 21cm deep concrete you’d need 6m2 or 27cm deep you need 8m2 of concrete so 6 or 8 x £130 = £780-£1040
You’d want reinforcing mesh sheets c £300
12 tons of sub base 12x£45 £530
7 scaffold boards at £25 = £175
Digger, dumper and driver to dig out / level hardcore £280 (8 hrs @£35 hr)
Wacker hire £100
Level concrete upon delivery £280 (max) half day x 2 people

So circa £2700 + vat approx
Yes, thats a reasonable list of some of the costs. You would also need someone to accurately install the shuttering etc, and have access to all of the small tools and fixings required.

I would also assume the Op does not have the skills or experience, nor does he have access to labour who would deliver the project in the limited hours to complete the job you have allowed.

Therefore you want a contractor who must expend approx £3k, bring his plant and labour to site, have access to all of the small tools and fixings, guarantee his work, hold adequate insurance, and pay all of the relevant taxes on the transaction. They might also like to make some money on the job.

So I would suggest a contractor like the above will not be short of employ. I would think £4k is more than reasonable.

PhilboSE

5,191 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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AlvinSultana said:
Yes, thats a reasonable list of some of the costs. You would also need someone to accurately install the shuttering etc, and have access to all of the small tools and fixings required.

I would also assume the Op does not have the skills or experience, nor does he have access to labour who would deliver the project in the limited hours to complete the job you have allowed.

Therefore you want a contractor who must expend approx £3k, bring his plant and labour to site, have access to all of the small tools and fixings, guarantee his work, hold adequate insurance, and pay all of the relevant taxes on the transaction. They might also like to make some money on the job.

So I would suggest a contractor like the above will not be short of employ. I would think £4k is more than reasonable.
yes

SonicHedgeHog

2,580 posts

197 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Just to check, we are referring to a concrete base for a shed, aren’t we? I just wanted to check I haven’t stumbled into an obscure section of Pistonheads where you’re designing some kind of super gun to fire 600mm shells at the Russians.

037

1,338 posts

162 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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AlvinSultana said:
bennno said:
At 21cm deep concrete you’d need 6m2 or 27cm deep you need 8m2 of concrete so 6 or 8 x £130 = £780-£1040
You’d want reinforcing mesh sheets c £300
12 tons of sub base 12x£45 £530
7 scaffold boards at £25 = £175
Digger, dumper and driver to dig out / level hardcore £280 (8 hrs @£35 hr)
Wacker hire £100
Level concrete upon delivery £280 (max) half day x 2 people

So circa £2700 + vat approx
Yes, thats a reasonable list of some of the costs. You would also need someone to accurately install the shuttering etc, and have access to all of the small tools and fixings required.

I would also assume the Op does not have the skills or experience, nor does he have access to labour who would deliver the project in the limited hours to complete the job you have allowed.

Therefore you want a contractor who must expend approx £3k, bring his plant and labour to site, have access to all of the small tools and fixings, guarantee his work, hold adequate insurance, and pay all of the relevant taxes on the transaction. They might also like to make some money on the job.

So I would suggest a contractor like the above will not be short of employ. I would think £4k is more than reasonable.
Most sensible post I've read on here for a while and totally correct..

ChevronB19

7,819 posts

178 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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lrdisco said:
Don’t you think that he ever gets sick of being asked to participate in VAT fraud?
Do you get discounts at Tesco by paying cash?
What on Earth are you on about?

OP - cost seems about right, maybe a bit toppy oop north.

PhilboSE

5,191 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Just to check, we are referring to a concrete base for a shed, aren’t we? I just wanted to check I haven’t stumbled into an obscure section of Pistonheads where you’re designing some kind of super gun to fire 600mm shells at the Russians.
It’s a proper concrete base for something of substantial weight, that needs to be built onto sloping ground. He wants (correctly) a decent job. We’re not talking about 75mm of mix held together by a few planks. The shuttering alone will need a decent amount of time put into it to ensure it doesn’t fall apart under the pressure of (literally) 20 tons of mix.

It’s not a base for a shed. HTH.

Bob-iylho

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756 posts

121 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Just to check, we are referring to a concrete base for a shed, aren’t we? I just wanted to check I haven’t stumbled into an obscure section of Pistonheads where you’re designing some kind of super gun to fire 600mm shells at the Russians.
To clarify, it's not a shed, it's a shipping container holding about 5 tonnes of agricultural machinery. I want it to last a very long time, be level and fit for purpose. I shall clad it, so more weight. I don't want half a job.
I probably have the skills to do it but not the time.

PhilboSE

5,191 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Here’s a thread showing some idiot doing a very similar thing a couple of years ago.

It’s a not inconsiderable amount of effort and materials.

AlvinSultana

907 posts

164 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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And here is one I have had the recent misfortune to be paying for :




It’s slightly bigger than the average shed, and still a lot to be done.