Depreciation proof motoring
Depreciation proof motoring
Author
Discussion

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Looking for something big and comfy, needs to take 4 adults and 3 dogs.

Not worried about mpg, won’t do a lot of miles and not too worried about the odd big bill. I’d really like to buy a car and keep it 10+ years and hopefully not lose much or maybe even see it appreciate.

E61 M5
B7 RS4 (maybe too small)
C6 RS6 (had one already - potential massive bills)
C7 RS6 (don’t know much about these)
S212 AMG

What am I missing?

Budget reasonably flexible, say 20-35k-ish.

M5 in the lead so far. These got dear though. When I bought my RS6 they were the same price - low 20’s. The RS6 is still low 20’s and the M5 is low 30’s.



macron

13,097 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
You may not lose, and may even gain on the sale price of an E61, but the costs incurred between now and 10 years in the future, from tax and insurance through all the common M5 bits which go wrong, could be eye watering.

E63 btw. That's what you're missing. The V8.

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
That’s the s212 AMG - e63 wagon smile

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
I figure tax and insurance will be the same for all of them. I’m old and live in a rural area with really cheap insurance.

I think an E61 will cost less over ten years than a V10 RS6!

ZX10R NIN

30,378 posts

152 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
The E63 is the pick.

blueovercream

354 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
E39 M5 is the one missing...

Jag_NE

3,324 posts

127 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
So PH….fuel and maintenance no issue but wanting a car for free

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
blueovercream said:
E39 M5 is the one missing...
To take 4 adults and 3 dogs yeah? scratchchin

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Jag_NE said:
So PH….fuel and maintenance no issue but wanting a car for free
I won’t do many miles in this car and have a workshop, ramp, tools and mates who know what they’re doing.

Like I say, the odd big bill over a ten year period is fine, I don’t want £10k per year in maintenance.


jamesbilluk

4,142 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Cayenne Turbo?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023101831...

I would say the Macan GTS as well, but not sure it would be big enough.

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Cayenne is an interesting shout, cheers.

I wonder about supercharged L322 range tigers, are they at the bottom of the curve?

blueovercream

354 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Lefty said:
To take 4 adults and 3 dogs yeah? scratchchin
Oops - overlooked the dogs bit

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Would be nice though!!

Are there any e39 alpina tourings?

jamesbilluk

4,142 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Lefty said:
Cayenne is an interesting shout, cheers.

I wonder about supercharged L322 range tigers, are they at the bottom of the curve?
I've always liked the look of that Cayenne generation as well,

There's also the Maserati Levante with the 3.0V6 petrol, there still may be some depreciation though..
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023061986...

jamesbilluk

4,142 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Lefty said:
Would be nice though!!

Are there any e39 alpina tourings?
This would have been nice, although slightly alarming coloured seats, also 42k
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spottedykywt/a...

Marc p

1,124 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
The E61 is the best shout, the V10 in the M5 is an insane engine, it was a full on ‘supercar’ lump that was placed into an everyday family saloon/estate, something that realistically wasn’t the best choice, but the world is a better place for it.

They aren’t the cheapest of things to run, but can be ok providing you choose wisely, the biggest issues they face is rod bearing failure but it’s not the end of the world if they fail(about £1.5-2k to replace), failures are mainly related to either incorrect/low oil or a driver that gives it beans before the oil is up to temp. Just make sure you find an example that has a good maintenance history(and ideally a low owner count) and treat it well. Alternatively, find one that has recently had the bearings done.

Cheib

25,271 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
Lefty said:
blueovercream said:
E39 M5 is the one missing...
To take 4 adults and 3 dogs yeah? scratchchin
E34 M5 Touring. LHD only but who cares smile

The end.

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

76 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
quotequote all
ZX10R NIN said:
The E63 is the pick.
Yup, that. Only slightly biased, but mine (S212 5.5) is still worth the same as I paid for it 3.5 years ago, and the S211 and the 6.2 cars seem to have already bottomed out and started rising. Servicing is fairly sensible, mpg not actually terrible considering, apart from a slight tendency to eat front tyres it's been pretty reasonable for running costs for a 550bhp car.

Lefty

Original Poster:

20,636 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
quotequote all

jamesbilluk

4,142 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
quotequote all
I used to have the Saloon M5 with the V10, and a saloon variant of the E63 with the 5.5 after that. To me, the AMG would be the pick, that V8 sounded fantastic at all revs, and better gearbox as well. I wish I had bought the estate though!