Early Jaguar XF's - Why so cheap?
Early Jaguar XF's - Why so cheap?
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culpz

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4,964 posts

139 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I'm seeing a lot of these on FB Marketplace (first red flag, I know) going for really cheap. Talking sub 3k. Look like genuine adverts aswell. I know Jag's aren't exactly the epitome of reliability but, when looking on forums and stuff, besides some electrical gremlins, they look fairly solid. Good gamble or bad decision waiting to happen?

Double Fault

1,445 posts

290 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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My dad has had an 11 plate 3.0d for years and no problems at all

Lincsls1

4,017 posts

167 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Big old Jags have always been a relative bargain. The XF is a good car by all accounts.

culpz

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4,964 posts

139 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I'm not really after a diesel and most are either the 2.7d or 3.0d V6, but the interiors are lovely and I'm sure they're pretty good to drive. Are repair and parts prices horrific? I was more set on a Lexus IS250, GS300 or even an LS430 more recently, as a much safer ownership experience and being petrol too. These are kinda hard to ignore at current though.

Wheel Turned Out

2,316 posts

65 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Always thought they were a good bargain. Don't seem to be any major horror stories. Road tax is probably quite expensive, but considering you're getting a lot for your money that's no big deal really.

I think the reason is down to the fact they're a bit anonymous looking. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, overall they're handsome enough. A nicely kept 4.2 Portfolio or above wouldn't be that much more money and would be a very nice thing to smoke about in.


tommy87912

25 posts

33 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Check out JD Power for reliability. I strongly suspect I'd be headed to Lexus for a trouble free life...

chrisman

87 posts

85 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I own a 2011 XFS and they are indeed lovely cars, but early cars are getting on for 15 years old now. The 3.0 diesel in S spec is the one to get 275HP and 40MPG on a run.

Reliable if maintained properly but not cheap to maintain and a good Jag indy is very useful for tracking down the inevitable electrical issues...

Like all aging luxobarges, get a good one they're great, a bad one can be a nightmare.


varsas

4,075 posts

229 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I had an early S-type (basically the same car) a while ago, it was 15 years old when I bought it...kept it for 3 (or 4?) years, gave it to a friend, he ran it for a year and then traded it in against a new car for his son. No rust, it all still worked, just the gearbox was a bit clonky/slushy when hot at nearly 20 years and 150k mls old, probably with no services ever. The trackdays probably didn't help either... They are, essentially, American cars. Pros and cons to that but they are fundamentally tough.


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Rob 131 Sport

4,667 posts

79 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Double Fault said:
My dad has had an 11 plate 3.0d for years and no problems at all
It must be a Dad thing. My Dad has owned this one for over 10 years and it’s an immaculate garage queen with a full history. They’re a lovely drive and I could really recommend them.

Back in 2014 I nearly bought an ex demo one in Italian Racing Red but ended up buying an E Class.

eddietiv1

249 posts

245 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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They do look like a bargain for what you get, but heard the diesel engines get a lot of problems as an older unit, and the majority for sale are diesels.

quinny100

1,009 posts

213 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I think of lot of these have been exiled from outer London following the ULEZ expansion.

Some good value early XJ’s around too.

BigMon

6,285 posts

156 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Apparently getting certain spare parts is an utter nightmare. My friend has just sold his due to that (it needed a rear subframe I think).

Marc p

1,124 posts

169 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Rob 131 Sport said:
It must be a Dad thing. My Dad has owned this one for over 10 years and it’s an immaculate garage queen with a full history. They’re a lovely drive and I could really recommend them.

Back in 2014 I nearly bought an ex demo one in Italian Racing Red but ended up buying an E Class.
Green over cream….lovely combocloud9

Vsix and Vtec

1,399 posts

45 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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The 3.0 TDV6 is a very good engine, providing you service it and done use it where a petrol vehicle would have been better suited. They need long drives to be happy. My partner has a 2010 Premium Luxury 3.0 TDV6, and its a lovely thing. Smooth, economical (gets close to 50 on a run in low traffic conditions) and yet has plenty of shove of you're in a rush. Parts are reasonable, with only really trim having to be bought through Jaguar so plenty of OEM or Aftermarket parts to keep repairs and service costs sensible. Running it on good fuel negates most of the DPF risks, and coupled with a good drive patern (she does a minimum of 45 minutes drive to work when she goes in, or 3 hours to mine at the weekend) the big Jag is loving actually being DRIVEN. Not terrible for insurance either! It's costing her less than her previous Honda.

Rob 131 Sport

4,667 posts

79 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Marc p said:
Green over cream….lovely combocloud9
Whilst I love the Green, the light beige interior is really not my taste and looks somewhat out of place with a black dashboard top.

I always felt it would look so much better with an all black interior. The Hifi is also not up to much and really lets the car down.

The drive however is sublime.


craigjm

21,045 posts

227 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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I had an April 2008 car. They fked off all the early adopters like me. We bought premium luxury 2.7D and added extra spec and then 9 months later they updated the car to the 3.0 and introduced the portfolio spec with all the extras people purchased on top of the premium luxury trim as standard. Still, I wasnt too annoyed in the end because after 18 months of fault after fault and recall after recall they bought it back off me. They are old enough now for all those niggles to be gone now and they removed a lot of what was causing issues on the facelift. I would say go for a facelift car, choose a portfolio and be picky. They are great cars to drive. The infotainment was a big leap forward for Jaguar at the time but still crap and after 15 years would be even more awful these days but you can get a caplay / andrioid auto bolt on to solve that. The 3.0 cars have a habit of dumping diesel into the oil if DPF regens havent completed when you park up. Why they didnt have a completion gauge is beyond me. Much better looking car than the XF that followed it.

king arthur

7,834 posts

288 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Wheel Turned Out said:
A nicely kept 4.2 Portfolio or above wouldn't be that much more money and would be a very nice thing to smoke about in.
The cheapest V8 seems to be at least a couple of grand more than the £3k - £4k you can get a 3.0d for. Whilst I love having that engine in my life, I'm not sure it's worth that when a 3.0d S is just as quick and far more economical (if you don't have to go into the ULEZ every day).

Wheel Turned Out

2,316 posts

65 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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king arthur said:
Wheel Turned Out said:
A nicely kept 4.2 Portfolio or above wouldn't be that much more money and would be a very nice thing to smoke about in.
The cheapest V8 seems to be at least a couple of grand more than the £3k - £4k you can get a 3.0d for. Whilst I love having that engine in my life, I'm not sure it's worth that when a 3.0d S is just as quick and far more economical (if you don't have to go into the ULEZ every day).
I suppose it depends on usage. If you're banging out the miles fair enough. But I'd say the potential for problems with an aging diesel could eat into that few grand difference quite considerably. With proper wafting still relatively affordably in reach, would be hard to ignore for me.

culpz

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4,964 posts

139 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Cheers guys. Just a shame you can't get the 3.0 petrol or the non-R 4.2/5.0 NA V8 without spending alot more (the latter I can understand though). I barely do any miles now, so diesel makes no sense at all. I'd miss a petrol regardless. There's better petrol options out there that will be a better bet for my use.

Vsix and Vtec

1,399 posts

45 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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There was also a 3.0 Supercharged V6, if you can find one. Cracking car, a slightly less license endangering car than the wonderful but ludicrously fast XF-R