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AB

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20,240 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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This is going to be a purchase pre-Christmas, to replace my 2015 911 Turbo S Cab.

My heart is saying 488 Spider, my head is saying Portofino would be a better option for me.

However, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266398990770?mkcid=16&a...

REALLY floats my boat.

I don't want another Porsche, I've always loveed Maclaren but something is niggling me about them.

911 has been excellent and never let me down, servicing has been reasonable so I fully expect a bit more cost involved in one of the above.

I also drive the 911 quite a lot, I imagine the above are also not as suited for higher mileage and use as often?

Open to ideas.

J1990

847 posts

80 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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I was lucky enough to take a Portofino for a drive last year when I complimented a family friend's beautiful example. Admittedly I've got nothing supercar to compare it to but it was a wonderful drive and somehow felt both subtle and special enough to make me fall in love with it and yearn for one in the future.
I think a 488 would be a more enjoyable car for occasional use but having only ever been a passenger in one I couldn't even attempt to say how significant the jump would be.

AB

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20,240 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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My business partner has a Cali and a Portofino so I have driven them both. Never driven a 488 or a Huracan though so I guess that's the first step.

I just wasn't sure the Portofino felt special enough, despite being a lovely thing to drive.

ZX10R NIN

30,388 posts

152 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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The Huracan will feel more special, having been lucky enough to have driven a few 488's, & I have to say as good as they are I found the 458 a better package.

AB

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20,240 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Thanks for the insight, this is kind of what I was thinking.

I'm still trying to get my head around what is happening with values.

Kerniki

2,903 posts

48 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Reliability and dealer service seems to have ranked highly on your good experience with Porsche, most likely you are you not going to get that with McLaren, they’re still not brilliant.

I’d say the Huracan is hard to beat for theatre, reliability, sound, performance & re-sale (next being a hybride)

GTR roadster? or GTC (everything GTR but softer ride) not really supercar but then neither is the 911 and you enjoyed that.

488 & 458 ive recently looked at, in cabrio the scuttle shake puts me off, 488 sounded like a wet fart and sound is very important in my cars as its what you’ll use most, probably.


AB

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20,240 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Agree with what you say on all points there, I like most of the AMG GT apart from the rear and I don't think it'd be an upgrade in any area over the Turbo S, I could be wrong.

I think I'll try a couple of Huracans and try to judge if I could live with it. I don't think it'll be as easy as the 911.

anonymous-user

81 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Roma?

Kerniki

2,903 posts

48 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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AB said:
Agree with what you say on all points there, I like most of the AMG GT apart from the rear and I don't think it'd be an upgrade in any area over the Turbo S, I could be wrong.

I think I'll try a couple of Huracans and try to judge if I could live with it. I don't think it'll be as easy as the 911.
Same, never liked the rear end of the GTR, i changed to the GTC however as it was mechanically identical; wide rear arches, 335 rear tyres, electric diff, 4 wheel steer, engine power (bar mapping) and yet looses the wing at the rear, now its the profile i like most.

Great as a GT and on cup2s with a simple map it betters GT3s on track, not quite GT3rs pace but not far off (if thats your thing)

Rear end though is sublime but i do like a shapely bum smile good boot size with roof down, enough for to carry ons. + 2 ruck sacks.




Huracan as a daily many do, not sure on frunk space?? Imagine similar to R8? aventador is surprisingly good so maybe Huracan is to..

MC20s are down to your budget now, been dropping like crazy! Cielo still way too high tho.

anonymous-user

81 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Perhaps more GT than supercar, but DBS Superleggera Volante?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309111...

Bazooka Joe

61 posts

146 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Ferrari 458 Italia would be my choice

AB

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222 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Nice car, interior makes me want to throw up though!!

HJG

639 posts

134 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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720S. You won't know what's hit you compared to your current Porsche.

Scootersp

4,076 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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AB said:
REALLY floats my boat.

911 has been excellent and never let me down, servicing has been reasonable so I fully expect a bit more cost involved in one of the above.

I also drive the 911 quite a lot, I imagine the above are also not as suited for higher mileage and use as often?
First point is key, you aren't going to see an identical one are you!

Re the servicing, it might be wise to at least look at those service history invoices?

It does have a 'lift' system and so could be more practical than some super cars, it's going to attract attention for sure and I suspect is wider than the 911 and so I suspect you'd just naturally use it less.

Just out of interest what does a person ie you! have as a daily is this sort of thing is on the menu for a special car?

AB

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20,240 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Scootersp said:
Just out of interest what does a person ie you! have as a daily is this sort of thing is on the menu for a special car?
Day to day is a Taycan Turbo S.

This is why I want something a bit more outrageous and special than a 911 for occasions. I suspect I may even use it more than the 911.

Scootersp

4,076 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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AB said:
Day to day is a Taycan Turbo S.

This is why I want something a bit more outrageous and special than a 911 for occasions. I suspect I may even use it more than the 911.
Right, so nothing semi mundane at all then! I think to most that would be an event in itself, so I can see the need for the really out there/special/unique/outrageous else it's not really going to trump the Taycan?

I did see there was a company where you could hire one for the day, perhaps the only thing that may be worth doing before considering the Supercar foibles compared to a semi normal car like the 911?

Chad_Hugo

676 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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458 Italia
488 GTB

Would be my choices, 488 second choice as sound is nowhere near as good to the larger, much more soulful and dramatic N/A V8 in the 458, plus I prefer the pinin farina styling of 458 which is at least a touch more elegant, reserved and therefore timeless. Performance- on the road in real UK driving conditions there is really nothing much in it.

Third choice Huracan, a great car too which certainly has it's positives although Ferrari would be first choice for me.

If you want a super car then make sure you get a super car and nothing less!

Don't be tempted by GT's posing as super cars, various AMG offerings or anything in that guise- get a proper, mid-rear engined two seater full blooded super car, don't compromise or go for lesser options if a super car is what you have your heart set on.

Kerniki

2,903 posts

48 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Chad_Hugo said:
458 Italia
488 GTB

Would be my choices, 488 second choice as sound is nowhere near as good to the larger, much more soulful and dramatic N/A V8 in the 458, plus I prefer the pinin farina styling of 458 which is at least a touch more elegant, reserved and therefore timeless. Performance- on the road in real UK driving conditions there is really nothing much in it.

Third choice Huracan, a great car too which certainly has it's positives although Ferrari would be first choice for me.

If you want a super car then make sure you get a super car and nothing less!

Don't be tempted by GT's posing as super cars, various AMG offerings or anything in that guise- get a proper, mid-rear engined two seater full blooded super car, don't compromise or go for lesser options if a super car is what you have your heart set on.
It’s a good point, 160 gets you into a 720 spider, think that’s where I’d go as a daily at 160, the ride in our coupe makes it very useable, tho using it regularly might get tiring and it lose that special feeling tbh.

AMG wannabes, quite, AMG have only ever produced 2 cars, SLS and the GT



Edited by Kerniki on Friday 22 September 18:38

AB

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20,240 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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https://www.amarisupercars.com/stock/details/2018-...

I like the look of this, and I know Amari having sold to him before I would be comfortable buying from them.

I think I'd prefer the 'more modern' 488 over the 458 and values are fairly similar from the research I've been doing.

However, I've been a Lambo fan as long as I remember and have always loved the Gallardo, but the Huracan is a bit more grown up IMO.

Kerniki

2,903 posts

48 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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AB said:
https://www.amarisupercars.com/stock/details/2018-...

I like the look of this, and I know Amari having sold to him before I would be comfortable buying from them.

I think I'd prefer the 'more modern' 488 over the 458 and values are fairly similar from the research I've been doing.

However, I've been a Lambo fan as long as I remember and have always loved the Gallardo, but the Huracan is a bit more grown up IMO.
Theres a great yt video vvs did about the Gallardo generations, learnt some stuff i didnt know, worth a look. Love the G but as a regular use car?

Have a listen to the sound of 458 vs 488 if thats important to you, if cabrio then definitely test with roof down (from what ive been told)