why cant every driver drive every car?
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ive been an occasional f1 watcher over the years but tbh Ive gone off it. For years now you have at most two or three drivers with any chance of the championship, and its usually one after 6 races.
20cars, 20 drivers, 20 races, put each driver in each car once. Youd still have a drivers championship, that would mean something, youd still have a constructors championship. Cheaper for everyone since no enormous driver contra ts either.
20cars, 20 drivers, 20 races, put each driver in each car once. Youd still have a drivers championship, that would mean something, youd still have a constructors championship. Cheaper for everyone since no enormous driver contra ts either.
Make it like an old Le Mans start but with a twist, first to the car gets it to race that car so you could say the "fastest" driver wins, add in a bit of its a knock out and allow teams to play a joker to help them out from the back of the pack and the winner of the last race gets spun round 10 times before the start of the next race to make things fair.
Dingu said:
It’s a team sport... Why not do the same in any sport? Football, let’s just randomly assign players round each match.
Don't get me started on football... if it were up to me football teams would consist of players from the town/city that they represent. For example, Manchester United would be people form Manchester, etc. It's a joke when our teams pay eyewatering amounts for foreign players and then when an international competition comes along they all bugger off to play for their home country and thrash us.It's a lovely idea in theory but it would only work if one entity owned Formula One and all the teams within it.
As it is, each team is a seperate business and employs it's own people, including drivers. F1 cannot dictate who drives for who.
Now, F1 could change the rules to mandate this, but first and foremost - who pays the drivers? Who markets them, insures them, has liability for them?
Mercedes won't pay Lewis Hamilton to drive 2 races for them and they can't 'share' an employee without a lot of complexity. So it'll have to be F1 as a commercial rights holder?
OK, so now we're in a sport where the commercial rights holder supplies drivers to teams who have them assigned randomly.
What if one of the commercial rights holder's drivers crashes one of the teams' cars? Who pays for that?
How does the commercial rights holder choose drivers? It seems a bit open to exploitation to have one person/business deciding who gets into F1 and why.
I could go on
As it is, each team is a seperate business and employs it's own people, including drivers. F1 cannot dictate who drives for who.
Now, F1 could change the rules to mandate this, but first and foremost - who pays the drivers? Who markets them, insures them, has liability for them?
Mercedes won't pay Lewis Hamilton to drive 2 races for them and they can't 'share' an employee without a lot of complexity. So it'll have to be F1 as a commercial rights holder?
OK, so now we're in a sport where the commercial rights holder supplies drivers to teams who have them assigned randomly.
What if one of the commercial rights holder's drivers crashes one of the teams' cars? Who pays for that?
How does the commercial rights holder choose drivers? It seems a bit open to exploitation to have one person/business deciding who gets into F1 and why.
I could go on
MitchT said:
Dingu said:
It’s a team sport... Why not do the same in any sport? Football, let’s just randomly assign players round each match.
Don't get me started on football... if it were up to me football teams would consist of players from the town/city that they represent. For example, Manchester United would be people form Manchester, etc. It's a joke when our teams pay eyewatering amounts for foreign players and then when an international competition comes along they all bugger off to play for their home country and thrash us.Yeah I'm sure no one would moan when chance dictates Lewis gets the Merc at Austria where they were s
t and Max lucked into the Merc in Spain where they were great. 
Would take about 5 mins for conspiracy theories to get deployed about the FIA ensuring someone's favourite driver was given a good car at a circuit where they happen to be notoriously st.
Would be a total clusterfk.
Be better to have a spec series or BoP.
t and Max lucked into the Merc in Spain where they were great. Would take about 5 mins for conspiracy theories to get deployed about the FIA ensuring someone's favourite driver was given a good car at a circuit where they happen to be notoriously s
t. Would be a total clusterf
k.Be better to have a spec series or BoP.
Koln-RS said:
I’ve for long loved this idea.
It would be a brilliant spectacle and, as said, the best driver and best car should win the titles - but all much closer.
That would make Sunday afternoons exciting.
Of course it will never happen - F1 politics and logistical excuses would prevent it.
I would argue, "It wouldn't happen" due to it being a daft idea, not F1 politics, and logistical excuses. It would be a brilliant spectacle and, as said, the best driver and best car should win the titles - but all much closer.
That would make Sunday afternoons exciting.
Of course it will never happen - F1 politics and logistical excuses would prevent it.
There are plenty of other motor sports available to watch. F1 doesn't need to create an entire new class of racing, just to bring back old fans.
honda_exige said:
Yeah I'm sure no one would moan when chance dictates Lewis gets the Merc at Austria where they were st and Max lucked into the Merc in Spain where they were great.
Would take about 5 mins for conspiracy theories to get deployed about the FIA ensuring someone's favourite driver was given a good car at a circuit where they happen to be notoriously st.
Would be a total clusterfk. + 1
Be better to have a spec series or BoP.
Exactly what I was thinking H_E. The performance on specific tracks can suit certain manufacturers, not forgetting set-up variations and learning settings on steering wheels etc. t and Max lucked into the Merc in Spain where they were great. Would take about 5 mins for conspiracy theories to get deployed about the FIA ensuring someone's favourite driver was given a good car at a circuit where they happen to be notoriously s
t. Would be a total clusterf
k. + 1Be better to have a spec series or BoP.
MitchT said:
Dingu said:
It’s a team sport... Why not do the same in any sport? Football, let’s just randomly assign players round each match.
Don't get me started on football... if it were up to me football teams would consist of players from the town/city that they represent. For example, Manchester United would be people form Manchester, etc. It's a joke when our teams pay eyewatering amounts for foreign players and then when an international competition comes along they all bugger off to play for their home country and thrash us.I’m sure the quality of play would be much improved with that daft idea too.
Muzzer79 said:
It's a lovely idea in theory but it would only work if one entity owned Formula One and all the teams within it.
As it is, each team is a seperate business and employs it's own people, including drivers. F1 cannot dictate who drives for who.
Now, F1 could change the rules to mandate this, but first and foremost - who pays the drivers? Who markets them, insures them, has liability for them?
Mercedes won't pay Lewis Hamilton to drive 2 races for them and they can't 'share' an employee without a lot of complexity. So it'll have to be F1 as a commercial rights holder?
OK, so now we're in a sport where the commercial rights holder supplies drivers to teams who have them assigned randomly.
What if one of the commercial rights holder's drivers crashes one of the teams' cars? Who pays for that?
How does the commercial rights holder choose drivers? It seems a bit open to exploitation to have one person/business deciding who gets into F1 and why.
I could go on
Cars are also designed around their drivers. The design philosophy would need to change to accommodate Tsunoda one week and Russel the next.As it is, each team is a seperate business and employs it's own people, including drivers. F1 cannot dictate who drives for who.
Now, F1 could change the rules to mandate this, but first and foremost - who pays the drivers? Who markets them, insures them, has liability for them?
Mercedes won't pay Lewis Hamilton to drive 2 races for them and they can't 'share' an employee without a lot of complexity. So it'll have to be F1 as a commercial rights holder?
OK, so now we're in a sport where the commercial rights holder supplies drivers to teams who have them assigned randomly.
What if one of the commercial rights holder's drivers crashes one of the teams' cars? Who pays for that?
How does the commercial rights holder choose drivers? It seems a bit open to exploitation to have one person/business deciding who gets into F1 and why.
I could go on
What happens to the Driver Academy programmes that all of the teams run - what impact would any change to this have on the progression of up and coming drivers?
Of course all of these things can be dealt with but what you'd end up with is a high-tech, expensive version of Arrive and Drive Karting.
It's F1. It is what it is. Sometimes it's brilliant. Sometimes it isn't. You either like it or you don't. Either is fine.
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