Higher mileage Toyota Aygo?
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Hi folks,
Recently the car I drive has been causing me a lot of headaches and money, and is currently off the road with an engine management light on after a radiator replacement. It's a type S Civic by the way. I've pretty much checked out of the car now and am maybe going to try and get something cheaper to run, hence the Toyota aygo.
I'll be honest, things aren't great just now (for a lot or people probably) I've been in multiple homeless shelter's now for the last sixteen months, but I've been stuck without a car in this particular one for the last month. This particular shelter was okay when i could leave, but as I have no car now, and my feet have completely collapsed due to bone degeneration I've been stuck in here day after day, things are a bit rough here, so I now desperately need to get a car so I can at least leave here in the daytimes. I've done a bit of reading, and Toyota aygos seem reliable...
My brother has come to my rescue and offered me two grand so I can get a little cheap run arond. Everything I've looked at in the Dundee Scotland area is out of my price range, I'm really surprised at some of the prices wanted here for 12 year old cars, four grand etc..but i am seeing things a lot cheaper in England (travelling for a car doesn't bother me) They are however a lot higher mileage. I'm seeing cars at 106 thousand and up for my price range.
I've read some decent reviews on the Toyota aygo, but I'm not sure how they hold up when they get into the higher mileage, or what to look for when they do. If any of the folks would be able to give me guidance on what to look for or avoid, it would be greatly appreciated!
I know some will say try fix the Civic, but the mechanic who fitted the radiator won't be back in Dundee for a bit. The tax and insurance alone, never mind the fuel it drinks in comparison with the small aygo has now convinced me I just want shot of the civic. I also can't be putting more money into the civic, particularly the money my brother gave me to get something else.
Like I said, any help with problems to look for with an Aygo is greatly appreciated.
Recently the car I drive has been causing me a lot of headaches and money, and is currently off the road with an engine management light on after a radiator replacement. It's a type S Civic by the way. I've pretty much checked out of the car now and am maybe going to try and get something cheaper to run, hence the Toyota aygo.
I'll be honest, things aren't great just now (for a lot or people probably) I've been in multiple homeless shelter's now for the last sixteen months, but I've been stuck without a car in this particular one for the last month. This particular shelter was okay when i could leave, but as I have no car now, and my feet have completely collapsed due to bone degeneration I've been stuck in here day after day, things are a bit rough here, so I now desperately need to get a car so I can at least leave here in the daytimes. I've done a bit of reading, and Toyota aygos seem reliable...
My brother has come to my rescue and offered me two grand so I can get a little cheap run arond. Everything I've looked at in the Dundee Scotland area is out of my price range, I'm really surprised at some of the prices wanted here for 12 year old cars, four grand etc..but i am seeing things a lot cheaper in England (travelling for a car doesn't bother me) They are however a lot higher mileage. I'm seeing cars at 106 thousand and up for my price range.
I've read some decent reviews on the Toyota aygo, but I'm not sure how they hold up when they get into the higher mileage, or what to look for when they do. If any of the folks would be able to give me guidance on what to look for or avoid, it would be greatly appreciated!
I know some will say try fix the Civic, but the mechanic who fitted the radiator won't be back in Dundee for a bit. The tax and insurance alone, never mind the fuel it drinks in comparison with the small aygo has now convinced me I just want shot of the civic. I also can't be putting more money into the civic, particularly the money my brother gave me to get something else.
Like I said, any help with problems to look for with an Aygo is greatly appreciated.
I have two siblings who have the badge engineered Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107 equivalents of 2013 and 2009 vintage. They’ve given very little trouble and excellent fuel economy (low 70s mpg). Water ingress in the boot floor where the spare wheel is located has happened to both of them and is a common issue (perhaps expected by the manufacturer seeing as they have drain plugs!). When we were looking in the market the Toyota was selling at a premium but they are mechanically the same underneath, so I wouldn’t look exclusively at the Aygo.
T-J-C said:
I have two siblings who have the badge engineered Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107 equivalents of 2013 and 2009 vintage. They’ve given very little trouble and excellent fuel economy (low 70s mpg). Water ingress in the boot floor where the spare wheel is located has happened to both of them and is a common issue (perhaps expected by the manufacturer seeing as they have drain plugs!). When we were looking in the market the Toyota was selling at a premium but they are mechanically the same underneath, so I wouldn’t look exclusively at the Aygo.
it was Toyota engineers who led the development and whilst they all went down the same production line there was actually a team of Toyota QA people at the very end of the line so in theory the Aygo should be a little better Andy665 said:
it was Toyota engineers who led the development and whilst they all went down the same production line there was actually a team of Toyota QA people at the very end of the line so in theory the Aygo should be a little better
Are you saying when they leak, it's a better quality leak? 
Thank you very much for all these replies. Very interesting that they're inspected at the end by Toyota.
I'll look at the other variants too then. 200...and it kept coming back for more, excellent.
I've never driven a car as small as as these, but needs must. Thanks folks, really appreciated.
I'll look at the other variants too then. 200...and it kept coming back for more, excellent.
I've never driven a car as small as as these, but needs must. Thanks folks, really appreciated.
Use 'em and abuse 'em.
They don't break much, and when they do, they're easy to work on and cheap.
Ours seemed to eat the discs at the same rate as the pads (50k miles), but the whole lot was about £70 IIRC.
Back boxes need regular replacing, again cheap (maybe that's why they kept going?!) and very DIY-able.
Drilled some extra holes in the boot floor to let the water out
Only real problems I can remember were the power steering relay not relaying occasionally, from start-up for us but some reports of failures mid-corner - reset by leaning under the dash and pulling one wire out and putting it back in. And the dampness lead to corroded contacts on the indicator stalks - again, easy enough to take off the wheel and stalk unit and clean them up.
They don't break much, and when they do, they're easy to work on and cheap.
Ours seemed to eat the discs at the same rate as the pads (50k miles), but the whole lot was about £70 IIRC.
Back boxes need regular replacing, again cheap (maybe that's why they kept going?!) and very DIY-able.
Drilled some extra holes in the boot floor to let the water out
Only real problems I can remember were the power steering relay not relaying occasionally, from start-up for us but some reports of failures mid-corner - reset by leaning under the dash and pulling one wire out and putting it back in. And the dampness lead to corroded contacts on the indicator stalks - again, easy enough to take off the wheel and stalk unit and clean them up.
XR8 do an upgraded seal kit which together with cleaning & treating the factory seals, resolves the leaks.
Apart from that, the only other weaknesses are water pump leaks (easy to replace and cheap from a motor factory) and clutches (again, a nice easy clutch to do!). I love my C1 - simple, economical motoring. Service it and they’ll go forever.
The oil consumption issue can be negated by frequent oil changes and using 10w40 instead of 5w30, although I run mine on the latter with negligible oil consumption. Gets changed every 5k, though.
Apart from that, the only other weaknesses are water pump leaks (easy to replace and cheap from a motor factory) and clutches (again, a nice easy clutch to do!). I love my C1 - simple, economical motoring. Service it and they’ll go forever.
The oil consumption issue can be negated by frequent oil changes and using 10w40 instead of 5w30, although I run mine on the latter with negligible oil consumption. Gets changed every 5k, though.
itcaptainslow said:
XR8 do an upgraded seal kit which together with cleaning & treating the factory seals, resolves the leaks.
Apart from that, the only other weaknesses are water pump leaks (easy to replace and cheap from a motor factory) and clutches (again, a nice easy clutch to do!). I love my C1 - simple, economical motoring. Service it and they’ll go forever.
The oil consumption issue can be negated by frequent oil changes and using 10w40 instead of 5w30, although I run mine on the latter with negligible oil consumption. Gets changed every 5k, though.
Mines started to use oil, always been dealer serviced and interestingly they use 0w 20Apart from that, the only other weaknesses are water pump leaks (easy to replace and cheap from a motor factory) and clutches (again, a nice easy clutch to do!). I love my C1 - simple, economical motoring. Service it and they’ll go forever.
The oil consumption issue can be negated by frequent oil changes and using 10w40 instead of 5w30, although I run mine on the latter with negligible oil consumption. Gets changed every 5k, though.
Hippea said:
Mines started to use oil, always been dealer serviced and interestingly they use 0w 20
No wonder if they’re putting 0w20 in it! I think that’s the standard oil Toyota use for everything now.My partner’s old 107 was much better on slightly thicker oil (had higher mileage than my C1, with less evidence of regular servicing, mind) - the engine was quieter, too.
This is the seal kit I was talking about, should anyone need it;
https://x8r.co.uk/107-c1-5-door-seal-combo-kit.htm...
The door seals are a bit “aftermarket” and didn’t do much for mine (keeping the existing seals clean and supple is the main thing here), but the modified boot and tail light seals are great.
I thought I would update this thread, as i found this on Pistonheads
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15378602
It's literally hundreds of miles away from me, but the company seems to have a good reputation, seven owners though? seems high to me. Not bothered about the travel. I just need something cheap to fuel, tax, insure to get me out.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15378602
It's literally hundreds of miles away from me, but the company seems to have a good reputation, seven owners though? seems high to me. Not bothered about the travel. I just need something cheap to fuel, tax, insure to get me out.
At this end of the market I'd be looking private, and I'd be considering the Toyotas French twins also, plus slightly bigger Yaris and Kia's Picanto and its Hyundai sibling. Cast your net wider than PH and you'll find loads of cars on AT and Gumtree I'd reckon..
Sorry to hear of your woes, I'm not far from Dundee and there most days, if I hear of anything I'll give you a shout.
Sorry to hear of your woes, I'm not far from Dundee and there most days, if I hear of anything I'll give you a shout.
I run a fleet of cheap lease cars.
I have about 12 C1 / 107 / Aygo's
A similar number of Yaris from 1999 to 2012.
The C1 / Aygo / 107 are brilliant. The engine can use oil (but who cares), the exhausts can fail (but who cares), they can leak (but easy to fix), clutches fail, but are about £3.50 to change.
I'd recommend one in a heartbeat. Most of ours are running about 160 - 180k miles, and start and drive fine. I bought most of them for a few hundred quid. None of them have ever broken down.
But any Yaris with the 4 cylinder engine is better.
I have about 12 C1 / 107 / Aygo's
A similar number of Yaris from 1999 to 2012.
The C1 / Aygo / 107 are brilliant. The engine can use oil (but who cares), the exhausts can fail (but who cares), they can leak (but easy to fix), clutches fail, but are about £3.50 to change.
I'd recommend one in a heartbeat. Most of ours are running about 160 - 180k miles, and start and drive fine. I bought most of them for a few hundred quid. None of them have ever broken down.
But any Yaris with the 4 cylinder engine is better.
Hi,
Thanks for all the replies again. It's crazy the way they're holding their value, I assume it's the ULEZ coming in, price of fuel and tax. Still looking.
My brother actually just sent me a link to a prius on ebay, he said he'll forward me an extra £1000 to help, the car is advertised at £3,895, maybe I can pull them down a bit.
I know I started a thread on Aygo, but it appears, the prius is cheap on tax, good on fuel too, bigger and better insulated. I'll be spending a lot of time in the car I get till I get a house, so this may be better for me. I know nothing of a Prius though, but they seem to get good reviews, I'll post a link.
Thanks again, and especially for your concern BB, it's much appreciated.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285368179978?hash=item4...
Thanks for all the replies again. It's crazy the way they're holding their value, I assume it's the ULEZ coming in, price of fuel and tax. Still looking.
My brother actually just sent me a link to a prius on ebay, he said he'll forward me an extra £1000 to help, the car is advertised at £3,895, maybe I can pull them down a bit.
I know I started a thread on Aygo, but it appears, the prius is cheap on tax, good on fuel too, bigger and better insulated. I'll be spending a lot of time in the car I get till I get a house, so this may be better for me. I know nothing of a Prius though, but they seem to get good reviews, I'll post a link.
Thanks again, and especially for your concern BB, it's much appreciated.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285368179978?hash=item4...
Jaykaye said:
I thought I would update this thread, as i found this on Pistonheads
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15378602
It's literally hundreds of miles away from me, but the company seems to have a good reputation, seven owners though? seems high to me. Not bothered about the travel. I just need something cheap to fuel, tax, insure to get me out.
SC is a Glasgow numberplate https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15378602
It's literally hundreds of miles away from me, but the company seems to have a good reputation, seven owners though? seems high to me. Not bothered about the travel. I just need something cheap to fuel, tax, insure to get me out.
If it was me I’d want to know whether it had spent the last 11 years on the west coast of Scotland before I bought it
T-J-C said:
I have two siblings who have the badge engineered Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107 equivalents of 2013 and 2009 vintage. They’ve given very little trouble and excellent fuel economy (low 70s mpg). Water ingress in the boot floor where the spare wheel is located has happened to both of them and is a common issue (perhaps expected by the manufacturer seeing as they have drain plugs!). When we were looking in the market the Toyota was selling at a premium but they are mechanically the same underneath, so I wouldn’t look exclusively at the Aygo.
My son had this too.It was one of the rear tail lights that needed re-seating. The problem has never re-occurred.
As for the drain plugs, one was missing when we bought it, presumably to allow water to drain out due to the taillight
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