Merson 4 - 0 ULEZ
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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Over the last 12 months I have purchased 4 vehicles all ULEZ compliant. Range of engines and price.

Last year

2002 Audi A4 - Manual, 60,000 miles, FSH 2.0 Petrol
Price 1500



Freelander 2 XS, 3.2 Petrol, Auto, 1 owner, Full LR service history, almost perfect condition, 50,000 miles
£5450



2013 B180 Blueefficiency Sport, Auto, fully loaded with the highest spec possible, 40,000 miles, 1 owner FMBSH
£5650




2013 X5 3.0D Xdrive Blueperformance. auto 5 seats
1 owner, FBMWSH, 36,000 miles, top spec with HUD, Panormaic roof etc, Euro 6 engine
£10,800

X5 is for the wife, B180 for my weekly commute to London (50 mpg with auto distance cruise control)

A4 was for a friend
Landrover I will sell.

brillomaster

1,814 posts

197 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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well done. i mean you'd be mad to buy a car that wasn't ULEZ compliant, so... not really sure praise is in order...?

geeks

11,473 posts

166 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Meanwhile I accidentally bought two cars that are ULEZ free, both 20 year old 3 litre petrols.

I mean I don't live in or near the ULEZ stuff but whatevs right?

Greenmantle

2,092 posts

135 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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2013 B180 Blueefficiency Sport, Auto, fully loaded with the highest spec possible, 40,000 miles, 1 owner FMBSH
£5650

Sorry I don't believe you!
show the reg and I'll check on WBAC.

p4cks

7,451 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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5.0 Lambo ULEZ compliant too but I've no intention of visiting London, ever.

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Greenmantle said:
2013 B180 Blueefficiency Sport, Auto, fully loaded with the highest spec possible, 40,000 miles, 1 owner FMBSH
£5650

Sorry I don't believe you!
show the reg and I'll check on WBAC.
I will take that as a compliment !

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Are you 4 up because they just happened to be ULEZ compliant?

If you live near London and are looking at older cars isn't it one of the first search criteria?

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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brillomaster said:
well done. i mean you'd be mad to buy a car that wasn't ULEZ compliant, so... not really sure praise is in order...?
Well currently not everyone needs a ULEZ vehicle, but in my opinion buying a second hand car now you have two options, non ULEZ compliant, then you have to expect it to be almost worthless in 3-5 years time. So amortize it’s cost over that time frame

Buy an older ULEZ car and I think you can be confident in it maintaining a lot of that value over the same period.

That’s what I am thinking anyway

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Are you 4 up because they just happened to be ULEZ compliant?

If you live near London and are looking at older cars isn't it one of the first search criteria?
I live in Cheltenham but both me and my wife make regular trips to London, and Heathrow etc. Also Bristol has a ULEZ and I can only think more cities will soon.

Roger Irrelevant

3,371 posts

140 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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mersontheperson said:
Well currently not everyone needs a ULEZ vehicle, but in my opinion buying a second hand car now you have two options, non ULEZ compliant, then you have to expect it to be almost worthless in 3-5 years time. So amortize it’s cost over that time frame
People have been saying the same thing about diesels since the VW emissions thing kicked off in 2015. Still hasn't happened. Despite the scary stories that PHers tell each other about how ULEZ will take over the world and lead to the collapse of civilisation, the fact remains that for vast swathes of the country it is an irrelevance and will remain that way. The ever-dwindling number of non-ULEZ compliant cars that haven't reached the end of their life anyway will find a happy home in the country without them crashing in value.

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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I see your point, when I mean worthless, I mean a grand or two, and not 10.
A non ULEZ compliant diesel is already 5 + years old, so I just think that Diesels 10+ years old and not ULEZ (and their equivalents) will not be selling for very much money.

Not saying they will be purely scrap value, but only a grand or 2 more.
If you compare equivalent diesel and petrol models that are 10 years old, it looks to me that the petrol ones are worth more. This definitely wasn’t the case 5 or 6 years ago

MrGTI6

3,290 posts

157 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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mersontheperson said:
I see your point, when I mean worthless, I mean a grand or two, and not 10.
A non ULEZ compliant diesel is already 5 + years old, so I just think that Diesels 10+ years old and not ULEZ (and their equivalents) will not be selling for very much money.

Not saying they will be purely scrap value, but only a grand or 2 more.
If you compare equivalent diesel and petrol models that are 10 years old, it looks to me that the petrol ones are worth more. This definitely wasn’t the case 5 or 6 years ago
My 15-year-old diesel is somehow ULEZ compliant!

Mr Tidy

30,722 posts

154 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Purely accidentally both the 6 cylinder petrol engined cars I bought in 2019 are compliant, despite being 17 and 18 years old!

Which is handy as my sister lives in Sutton.

fflump

3,320 posts

65 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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"Merson 4 - 0 ULEZ"

FWIW the title suggests that ULEZ has lost when surely it has succeeded in its aim?

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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fflump said:
"Merson 4 - 0 ULEZ"

FWIW the title suggests that ULEZ has lost when surely it has succeeded in its aim?
Nope, I am the winner, I will be driving around London in my amazing vehicles long after Sadiq Kahn is replaced and investigated for criminal activity

DorsetSparky

634 posts

37 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Greenmantle said:
2013 B180 Blueefficiency Sport, Auto, fully loaded with the highest spec possible, 40,000 miles, 1 owner FMBSH
£5650

Sorry I don't believe you!
show the reg and I'll check on WBAC.
You're right not to. No panoramic roof for a start...

I love the "fully loaded every option" brigade.

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

732 posts

192 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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DorsetSparky said:
Greenmantle said:
2013 B180 Blueefficiency Sport, Auto, fully loaded with the highest spec possible, 40,000 miles, 1 owner FMBSH
£5650

Sorry I don't believe you!
show the reg and I'll check on WBAC.
You're right not to. No panoramic roof for a start...

I love the "fully loaded every option" brigade.
Took me ages to find a fully loaded one without that annoying roof, but got one in the end


fflump

3,320 posts

65 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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mersontheperson said:
fflump said:
"Merson 4 - 0 ULEZ"

FWIW the title suggests that ULEZ has lost when surely it has succeeded in its aim?
Nope, I am the winner, I will be driving around London in my amazing vehicles long after Sadiq Kahn is replaced and investigated for criminal activity
Right you are then. Enjoy your amazing vehicles whatever they may be. I thought we were discussing ULEZ not the current London mayor?