Broken spring

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bcr5784

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7,174 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Just doing the fifth year service and MOT and it requires a broken spring to be replaced- well 2 since you are supposed to replace them in pairs - circa £800. Anyone else had that?

They can do it today, so it makes you wonder whether it's a common issue and they have them in stock.

OscarP

39 posts

37 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Yep - discovered at 4 year service - both replaced under extended warranty and dealer fine about it.

RikkertBiemans

64 posts

25 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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When you have to pay anyways just get the life110 springs (except you have an S).

bcr5784

Original Poster:

7,174 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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RikkertBiemans said:
When you have to pay anyways just get the life110 springs (except you have an S).
Would have been a thought - but prefer to stick with the standard suspension.(PE) Needs new front tyres very shortly (done £20k miles) will put the Life 110 geo on then (I've been promising to do it for ages - but never got a round tuit)

Miserablegit

4,131 posts

115 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Are they doing it under warranty BCR?

bcr5784

Original Poster:

7,174 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Miserablegit said:
Are they doing it under warranty BCR?
No unfortunately I didn't take the extended warranty after your issues with it. Took AA cover to cater for a fuel pump failure, which, of course, didn't happen (incidently I usually run in Normal not sport and leave start-stop enabled, though it only works after a long run).

Dezzer115

3 posts

25 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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bcr5784 said:
Would have been a thought - but prefer to stick with the standard suspension.(PE) Needs new front tyres very shortly (done £20k miles) will put the Life 110 geo on then (I've been promising to do it for ages - but never got a round tuit)
Are PE springs any different to early 'Pure' models ?
If not, then I have 2 off, complete sets cluttering up my garage - from a Nov 2018 and June 2019 Pure respectively - minmal milage, paint still shining.

Could be a win/win:- You can spend your hard earned on geo + if you get get the springs fitted you will save the cost of an additional tracking setup (required if springs and geo are done separately).
Most importantly for me is that I can release some much needed space in the man-cave.
Can send pics tomorrow if your interested.

bcr5784

Original Poster:

7,174 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Dezzer115 said:
Are PE springs any different to early 'Pure' models ?
If not, then I have 2 off, complete sets cluttering up my garage - from a Nov 2018 and June 2019 Pure respectively - minmal milage, paint still shining.

Could be a win/win:- You can spend your hard earned on geo + if you get get the springs fitted you will save the cost of an additional tracking setup (required if springs and geo are done separately).
Most importantly for me is that I can release some much needed space in the man-cave.
Can send pics tomorrow if your interested.
I wish I'd l known! I don't think PE springs are different from Pure's. Unfortunately it was a MOT failure issue and I have already given the go-ahead and the springs have been fitted (I think - it was supposed to be finished today, but hasn't been...)

a110au

292 posts

57 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Dezzer115 said:
Are PE springs any different to early 'Pure' models ?
If not, then I have 2 off, complete sets cluttering up my garage - from a Nov 2018 and June 2019 Pure respectively - minmal milage, paint still shining.

Could be a win/win:- You can spend your hard earned on geo + if you get get the springs fitted you will save the cost of an additional tracking setup (required if springs and geo are done separately).
Most importantly for me is that I can release some much needed space in the man-cave.
Can send pics tomorrow if your interested.
how much are you after for them?

Miserablegit

4,131 posts

115 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Just failed my mot on broken front springs 37,000 miles. Hope they are covered as above on extended warranty…watch this space

Miserablegit

4,131 posts

115 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Hmm…not a good start.
Opening lines “springs normally a wear and tear item and not.
Covered under warranty”…I explained others had them replaced under warranty…so now it needs an inspection before they decide warranty or not…
Can’t get it looked at until 31 August

Olivera

7,574 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Miserablegit said:
Just failed my mot on broken front springs 37,000 miles.
Top job on putting 37k miles on your A110! Have you had any other reliability problems other than the springs? IMO it's interesting to look at reliability of cars like yours with proper miles, rather than those who pootle around doing 1-2k per annum.

Miserablegit

4,131 posts

115 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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I’m fortunate to live near some great roads so have used it for trips to the shops “the long way round” far more than I intended.

I’m one of the original PE owners like BCR and might get one or two dates wrong

First year I had the fan fuse and exhaust valve wiring done
The bonnet catch was tightened. None of this inconvenienced me more than the day or so round trip to take it to a dealer.

I had a 6-9 month dispute with Michelin in respect of all the tyres cracking- they finally replaced them all with 15k on them so that was a worthwhile exercise.

2020/2021 rear screen seal leaked meaning I had a wet boot for a while



Dec 2021 Brake /Abs error when starting the car. Suggested I didn’t drive it so it was recovered to another dealer who indicated that at the most recent service a month or so before the abs update hadn’t been applied. And update applied and I drove the car home only for a few days later..

Dec 2021 rear screen “blew out” when I was driving - Alpine were going to cover it and then didn’t so I had to put a claim in with my insurers. As Alpine had already fitted rear screen I had to pay about £400 being the vat and an excess element - a result as admiral had originally offered me a £50 contribution as it wasn’t fitted by their chosen fitters. Whole thing was a nightmare. Recovery services wouldn’t move it initially as it wasn’t a “mechanical” failure. Then they wanted to relay it over a few days leaving it in motorway services…in December…I had to make it watertight myself and finally managed to get it sent direct.

2022 corrosion showing on wheelarch- repaired under warranty

2022 I was stranded for 7 hours when the alternator died.
Car off the road for a month as they waited for parts. A lot of running around to try to get somebody to take an interest

2023 gearbox failure error flashed up and then went on restarting- had only just booked it in for a diagnostic check when it failed its mot for broken springs.


Edited by Miserablegit on Thursday 17th August 12:56

Colin P

452 posts

149 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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On the plus side if the springs are a "consumable item" they can't complain or refuse warranty work if or rather when I replace mine with Life 110 springs biggrin

With the exception of the alternator, that isn't too bad over 37k miles and you've had a couple of pretty unusual issues in there.

Miserablegit

4,131 posts

115 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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OscarP said:
Yep - discovered at 4 year service - both replaced under extended warranty and dealer fine about it.
How many miles had you done?

OscarP

39 posts

37 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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25K miles 2019 car

2021 service - Replacement fuel pump under recall at service (didn't fail)
2022 service - Suspension arm replaced under extended warranty and corrosion issues also dealt with under warranty (they had the car for 2 weeks which was annoying as I wanted to drive it!)
2023 - service - 2 new rear springs under warranty and various rattles fixed (ish) again under warranty

outstanding - plastic dash behind the leather part has warped - discussing with Alpine...

So no visits to the garage outside the annual service...

Given this is a low volume French sports car I was prepared for much worse... and I had an Elise S1 which spent much of the first 6 months of its life and my ownership with the dealer... so all in all not bad - and the car still makes me smile every time I get in it...



Edited by OscarP on Thursday 17th August 23:23

Miserablegit

4,131 posts

115 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Many thanks-

As usual I’m still waiting to hear from Alpine. It has only been a week…

Colin P

452 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Miserablegit said:
Many thanks-

As usual I’m still waiting to hear from Alpine. It has only been a week…
Replacement carbon ring for dash air vent awaited due to faults in the one installed (never should have made it past QC). No movement yet, it's only been 3 months......

Never thought I'd miss Lotus parts supply availability......

springfan62

851 posts

82 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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2018PE with 9000 miles and a broken spring MOT failure.

£450 to replace one spring is a lot.

There is someone on Facebook who had to replace 3.
They all seem to break right at the bottom, so it seems to me this is either a design issue or a manufacturing issue.
I do not have extended warranty but I am going to raise this with Alpine as I believe there is a inherent defect in these springs.

I am booked in at Spires for the end of September to have Bilstein dampers and geo done, tempted to put life springs on as I expect this is going to be a recurring issue every MOT with the OEM ones.


Colin P

452 posts

149 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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springfan62 said:
2018PE with 9000 miles and a broken spring MOT failure.

I am booked in at Spires for the end of September to have Bilstein dampers and geo done, tempted to put life springs on as I expect this is going to be a recurring issue every MOT with the OEM ones.
I would. Planning on having the springs done shortly, but still trying to make up my mind as to whether to do the dampers at the same time. There are a number of people who are quite happy with the life springs and standard dampers.